[pydotorg-www] Fwd: Unable to include book on resources

2019-07-25 Thread Steve Holden
Forwarding for action - currently busy, if anyone else can help out? Thanks! Steve Holden -- Forwarded message - From: Guilherme Soares Lima Date: Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [pydotorg-www] Unable to include book on resources To: Steve Holden Hi, my wiki name

Re: [pydotorg-www] Unable to include book on resources

2019-07-25 Thread Steve Holden
. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 4:52 PM Guilherme Soares Lima wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to add my new book to python's list, I was unable to add it. > The link to the book is: > https://www.amazon.com/d

[Python-Dev] Re: Comparing dict.values()

2019-07-25 Thread Steve Holden
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 4:01 AM Rob Cliffe via Python-Dev < python-dev@python.org> wrote: > I considered an alternative: return True if the underlying dicts were > identical or equal, and raise an Exception otherwise. > But I soon decided that this was a terrible idea: it could hide a bug by > mak

Re: [pydotorg-www] Editing the Python Web Hosting pages

2019-07-23 Thread Steve Holden
Thanks very much for taking the time to help improve the Wiki. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 1:16 PM stanimir wrote: > Hi, > > Silly me - my username is StanimirDjevelekov. > > I am thinking of alphabetical order, as both standard and fair for all > th

[Python-Dev] Re: What is a public API?

2019-07-17 Thread Steve Holden
PEP 8 would concur, whatever the current preferred style was. Under "Naming Conventions": """New modules and packages (including third party frameworks) should be written to these standards, but where an existing library has a different style, internal consistency is preferred.""" The requirement

[Python-Dev] Re: Further off-topic: webmaster@ volunteers

2019-07-09 Thread Steve Holden
ing the need to seek assistance elsewhere. We see remarkably little spam, so moderating the list isn't an issue and I've been doing that unaided for over a year without noticing. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:56 PM Ethan Furman wrote: > On 07/08/2019 03:12

[Python-Dev] Re: [Possibly off-topic] Python-Announce floods and delays

2019-07-08 Thread Steve Holden
uties soon. The duties aren't heavy, but the traffic is fairly regular and most of it benefits from being answered sooner rather than later. So if anyone wants to pitch in, you'll be welcomed. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 10:28 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jul 8

Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Editing Request- Developer from Washington DC

2019-07-08 Thread Steve Holden
an entirely new identity, and tell us ONLY THE ACCOUNT NAME. If you can persuade someone to add that name to the editors list you will be good to go. I personally won't take that responsibility, given that we are subject to regular attacks. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at

Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Editing Request- Developer from Washington DC

2019-07-08 Thread Steve Holden
Just a data point: I added the "hsts" username because Matt's original request said "Pls register me by mahdi...@gmail.com and my wikiname is hsts". I hadn't reckoned it might be an OpenId login - I thought OpenId had been excised from the python.org infrastructur

Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Editing Request- Developer from Washington DC

2019-07-06 Thread Steve Holden
Thanks for taking an interest in the Wiki. You should now be an editor! Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:56 PM wrote: > > Hi, > > I like to have access to Python Wiki pages and do editing on Python > training materials and pages like below: > https://wi

Re: [pydotorg-www] [Webmaster] Offensive content on page

2019-07-05 Thread Steve Holden
dmins, who I am sure will have it sorted out in fairly short order (modulo the availability of volunteer time). Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:14 PM Tara Hamilton wrote: > Good Afternoon! > > I’ve just been looking at your website and I came across this webpage: &

[issue37490] poor documentation for .startswith, .endswith

2019-07-03 Thread Steve Holden
Steve Holden added the comment: "Is the same as" is a little misleading - "gives the same result as" would be better, since there is little doubt actually slicing the subject strings would be massively less efficient in looping contexts. The re module offers the start

[Python-Dev] Re: strip behavior provides inconsistent results with certain strings

2019-07-02 Thread Steve Holden
On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 4:24 PM wrote: > It seems to me that the desired behavior here is closest to > 'str.replace()' out of all the options discussed, just with the constraint > of being limited to either the start or the end of the string. (Thus the > .lreplace() and .rreplace() option suggeste

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-06-29 Thread Steve Holden
Excellent thought. On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 6:49 PM Ned Deily wrote: > > On Jun 28, 2019, at 12:56, Mariatta wrote: > > Some of the items brought up during the language summit: > > [...] > > - we should be updating devguide ahead of the actual migration, so core > developers and release managers

Re: [pydotorg-www] (no subject)

2019-06-28 Thread Steve Holden
Was there some reason for this email? On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 19:44, FASIL ALMHREY wrote: > ___ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > -

Re: [PSF-Community] EuroPython 2019: Mobile Conference App available

2019-06-28 Thread Steve Holden
did you expect to see on this list? What might you do to encourage people to post the sort of content you'd like to see? Kind regards. Steve Holden PS: EuroPython is a brilliant community conference, in historical terms about six months older than PyCon and just as community-spirited. On

Re: [PSF-Community] EuroPython 2019: Mobile Conference App available

2019-06-27 Thread Steve Holden
s, and save only a few major ones like CFP open/close or > ticket sales opening, for this list. > > ___ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > -- Steve Holden ___ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community

Re: [PSF-Community] EuroPython 2019: Mobile Conference App available

2019-06-27 Thread Steve Holden
owered to post to the list. So the best thing this white male can do is get out of the way. regards Steve Steve Holden On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 8:35 AM M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > I'm sorry if our posts come across as spamming. That is certainly > not our attention. > > Since we d

Re: [PSF-Community] EuroPython 2019: Mobile Conference App available

2019-06-27 Thread Steve Holden
gt; > networks as widely as possible. Thank you ! > > > > Link to the blog post: > > > > > https://blog.europython.eu/post/185858710877/europython-2019-mobile-conference-app-available > > > > Tweet: > > > > htt

Fwd: [PSF-Community] Announcing IndyPy Web Conf - August 23, 2019

2019-06-26 Thread Steve Holden
-- Forwarded message - From: MaryBeth Okerson Date: Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 3:45 PM Subject: [PSF-Community] Announcing IndyPy Web Conf - August 23, 2019 To: group-organiz...@python.org , psf-commun...@python.org Hello all! IndyPy is excited to announce the call for proposals is

[Python-Dev] Re: bug(?) - unexpected frames being skipped in extract_stack with closures

2019-06-21 Thread Steve Holden
more details at Python-list Info Page <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 3:40 AM Ed Peschko wrote: > all, > > I'm writing a function meant to print out the context of a given > function call when e

Re: [group-organizers] [PSF-Community] Announcing IndyPy Web Conf - August 23, 2019

2019-06-19 Thread Steve Holden
I'm forwarding your message to the python-announce list - probably a good way to get the information out, but nowadays social media are most people's primary choice. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 3:45 PM MaryBeth Okerson wrote: > Hello all! > > >

Re: [PSF-Community] Announcing IndyPy Web Conf - August 23, 2019

2019-06-19 Thread Steve Holden
I'm forwarding your message to the python-announce list - probably a good way to get the information out, but nowadays social media are most people's primary choice. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 3:45 PM MaryBeth Okerson wrote: > Hello all! > > >

Re: [pydotorg-www] help

2019-06-19 Thread Steve Holden
Not much I can personally do about this, but I'm hoping a web maintainer can pick it up to find the fault. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 11:12 AM Manikant Roy wrote: > Yes ! While creating account the error code is > > *504 Gateway Time-out* > *The serv

Re: [pydotorg-www] help

2019-06-19 Thread Steve Holden
han "it doesn't work". Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:16 AM Manikant Roy wrote: > Thanks Steve once again . > I am creating account on same link only . > https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups?action=newaccount > But every time

[Python-Dev] Re: why is not 64-bit installer the default download link for Windows?

2019-06-19 Thread Steve Holden
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 9:37 PM Steve Dower wrote: > On 18Jun2019 1025, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Oleg Broytman writes: > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:09:59AM -, smartmanoj42...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > Why don't we check the architecture using js and provide the > > > > ap

Re: [pydotorg-www] help

2019-06-19 Thread Steve Holden
t (I've just started work and so am unavailable for a while). Kind regards Steve Holden On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 9:04 AM Manikant Roy wrote: > Thanks steve for prompt reply ! Yes I am taking about Wiki only . > Please help with account creation here > https://wiki.python.org/m

Re: [pydotorg-www] help

2019-06-19 Thread Steve Holden
Hi there, Thanks for your note. I presume that this is about the Wiki? You can't edit pages until we add your Wiki UserName to a specific list. If you let us know which account you are using we can do that for you. Kind regards Steve Holden On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:02 AM Manikant Roy

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 594: update 1

2019-06-05 Thread Steve Holden
Perhaps if PEP 594 is seen to be moving ahead towards a slimmer Python (4?) stdlib, it might encourage the development of a PEP to take over maintenance of dead parrots. They might be recruited by the offer of some way to at least publish a supported bundle via the same (python.org) site that Pytho

Re: [pydotorg-www] Hello Admin

2019-05-30 Thread Steve Holden
Great. You should be good to go now. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:47 PM Arham Akheel wrote: > Hi Steven, > > Thank you for your response. My account_name_ is Arham. Please add me to > the editor's group. We'll add our top Python tutorials an

Re: [pydotorg-www] [Webmaster] bugs.python.org login not work

2019-05-28 Thread Steve Holden
Great! Steve Holden On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 12:13 PM Berker Peksağ wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 12:09 PM Osipov, Michael > wrote: > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > it worked for me three weeks ago with my Google ID. I have created > tickets back then. > > L

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 558: Defined semantics for locals()

2019-05-28 Thread Steve Holden
I'm guessing the reason is to remove the overhead of keeping the dictionary up to date during function execution when no Python code needs access to it. On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 8:10 PM Richard Damon wrote: > On 5/27/19 2:05 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > > On 5/27/2019 9:52 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >

Re: [pydotorg-www] [Webmaster] bugs.python.org login not work

2019-05-28 Thread Steve Holden
problem. Copied to the pydotorg-www list, for their attention, since webmaster is mostly about content. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:45 AM Osipov, Michael wrote: > Hey there, > > I hope this is the right channel. > > One cannot login with Google ID to

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 594 - a proposal for unmaintained modules

2019-05-27 Thread Steve Holden
This whole vexing issue isn't going to be solved with any simple fix. A tool that could identify upcoming trouble spots might or might not be helpful. Or perhaps it could be implemented as a __future__ feature, so that those who choose not to use it during development see no change. The primary e

Re: [pydotorg-www] [Webmaster] wiki.python.org 504 gateway timeout when logging in

2019-05-26 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Thomas, It may be that those more involved on the tech side of the web might be able to shed some light, so I'm copying them in. This must be very irritating. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 7:43 PM Thomas Hybel wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Thanks for taking th

Re: [pydotorg-www] Hello Admin

2019-05-24 Thread Steve Holden
Hi there, Thanks for your interest in the Wiki, but I regret to add you to the editors' group we need the Wiki account _name_, not the email address. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 12:03 AM Arham Akheel wrote: > We would like to add free python tutorials on to on

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 594: Removing dead batteries from the standard library

2019-05-23 Thread Steve Holden
ay that doesn't involve lots of dev time then perhaps the PSF could be involved? I presume the Steering Committee are the people to consider directions like this. Steve Holden On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 7:03 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: > On May 20, 2019, at 13:15, Christian Heimes wrote: &g

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 594: Removing dead batteries from the standard library

2019-05-23 Thread Steve Holden
It might also serve to identify those with an interest in maintaining the non-core packages, which might even be given some special status on PyPI. On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 9:01 AM Alex Walters wrote: > I've watched the entire thread and its taken me a few days to put a finger > on what bothers

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 594: update 1

2019-05-23 Thread Steve Holden
Besides which, it would be lovely to have a major release that didn't involve any pain at all for the majority of users! Our erstwhile BDFL always eschewed two-digit version identifiers- due to the possibility for confusion about collating sequence, I beleive.. We should honour his preferences by

Re: [pydotorg-www] python2 EoL wiki "Python2orPython3"

2019-05-22 Thread Steve Holden
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 12:15 AM Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 5/21/19 4:00 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > > > My own personal preference would be to wave a respectful goodbye to 2.7 > > from the (Python core) developer community, with encouragement to all > > who aspire to

Re: [pydotorg-www] python2 EoL wiki "Python2orPython3"

2019-05-21 Thread Steve Holden
be forward-looking without sounding in any way triumphal or self-congratulatory. With a definite conclusion that Python 2's future is assured as long as it retains the same active community spirit that it created. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:25 PM Chris Angelico wrote: >

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 594: Removing dead batteries from the standard library

2019-05-21 Thread Steve Holden
Good point! On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 2:01 PM Paul Moore wrote: > On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 13:50, Steve Holden wrote: > > > > That seems entirely reasonable. I wonder if the larger community could > somehow form an organization (the Dead Parrot SIG?) that would at least &g

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 594: Removing dead batteries from the standard library

2019-05-21 Thread Steve Holden
That seems entirely reasonable. I wonder if the larger community could somehow form an organization (the Dead Parrot SIG?) that would at least curate and monitor efforts to ensure their continued utility? On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 1:40 PM Christian Heimes wrote: > On 21/05/2019 14.06, Anders Munc

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 594: Removing dead batteries from the standard library

2019-05-21 Thread Steve Holden
It's covered in "Python in a Nutshell," Alex Martelli having been a promoter of its ability simplify many utility programs for a long time. Not that that's any guide as to what should be in 3.10, by which time we'll be four minor releases out of date anyway. On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:16 AM Chris

Re: [pydotorg-www] Request to edit Python Wiki

2019-05-21 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Igor, I just want to add my thanks for taking the time to help keep the Wiki current and relevant. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 1:31 AM Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:03 AM Igor Rocha > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I&#x

Re: [Python-Dev] Feature request: Change a Dependency Package Version During Package Initiation

2019-05-20 Thread Steve Holden
I suspect this discussion would be better moved to python-ideas, since it seems clear there needs to be some work on determining the exact requirements On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 4:03 PM Dan Ryan wrote: > It probably makes the most sense to formally outline all of the behavioral > changes, expecta

Re: [pydotorg-www] oops

2019-05-17 Thread Steve Holden
You are now a member of the Editors group. Thanks for taking an interest in the Wiki! Kind regards, Steve Holden On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:47 PM Oliver Bestwalter wrote: > Addendum to the last message: username is OliverBestwalter > (https://wiki.python.org/moin/OliverBestwalter)

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Steve Holden
As a mere user I'd like to thank the developer team for biting this bullet. Remembering the transition to Git I am sure that the further democratisation (?) of the development process will similarly increase the diversity and scope of the development effort. It will indeed be a significant effort

Re: [Python-Dev] Easier debugging with f-strings

2019-05-07 Thread Steve Holden
What's not to like? On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 2:31 AM Glenn Linderman wrote: > On 5/6/2019 5:39 PM, Eric V. Smith wrote: > > Last fall Larry Hastings made a suggestion for adding a way to make > so-called "print-based debugging" easier with f-strings. Basically the > approach is that f-strings wou

Re: [pydotorg-www] About translation

2019-05-05 Thread Steve Holden
st ( https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/docs. A glimpse at the archives indicates the latter is rather more active, so probably start there. Many thanks for your interest in Python and your willingness to help serve its communities! Kind regards Steve Holden On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 6:12 PM

Re: [Python-Dev] Please merge : bpo-34848

2019-05-03 Thread Steve Holden
Looks like the failure is due to absence of a News entry. Maybe add a "skip news" label if this doesn't need to be documented? Kind regards. Steve Holden On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 9:48 AM Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy < thatiparthysreeni...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, >

Re: [python-uk] The London Python Code Dojo is coming back next Thursday

2019-04-02 Thread Steve Holden
Been thinking about it. Maybe when I retire ... Kind regards, Steve Holden On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:45 PM Tim Golden wrote: > Start a spin-off: The South Coast Python Code Dojo? > > Or maybe "The Cinque Ports Python Code Dojo" sounds a bit grander? > [I'm sure there

Re: [python-uk] The London Python Code Dojo is coming back next Thursday

2019-04-02 Thread Steve Holden
Alas no longer quite as practical now I'm living in Hastings. regards Steve Holden On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:55 PM Tim Golden wrote: > *Cough* obviously -- on Thursday evening. I mean: I hope you do have fun > tomorrow evening, but if you want to enjoy yourself with us at the Lond

Re: [pydotorg-www] python user group

2019-03-28 Thread Steve Holden
Should work now. Steve Holden On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 7:22 AM adarshreddy adelli < adarshreddy9...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello steve , > > It doesnt work for me..! However i have changed my user name to > " Adarshreddyash " . I request you to add this username so that

Re: [pydotorg-www] python user group

2019-03-27 Thread Steve Holden
Thanks. I added you as "AdarshreddyAdelli " (no space), presuming this to be a WikiName. Please advise if this doesn't work for you. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 3:46 PM adarshreddy adelli < adarshreddy9...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks steve ,

Re: [pydotorg-www] python user group

2019-03-27 Thread Steve Holden
Hi there! In order to do so we'll need your Wiki username, please. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 1:09 PM adarshreddy adelli < adarshreddy9...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello python team , > > I would like to add my local python users group to python Localus

Re: [pydotorg-www] Please add me to EditorsGroup

2019-03-27 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Boris, You should be good to go! Thanks very much for your interest in the Python Wiki. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:30 PM Boris wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I would like to edit IntegratingPythonWithOtherLanguages page, to add > link to Scapix Lan

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing PendingDeprecationWarning

2019-03-22 Thread Steve Holden
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 8:43 AM Victor Stinner wrote: > Le ven. 22 mars 2019 à 09:16, Inada Naoki a > écrit : > > > > We have `socket.error` for long time. > > > > > > And it's perfectly fine, no? > > > > > > > Yes. Waiting 10+ years to remove aliases is fine. > > [...] > > Right now, the main

Re: [Python-Dev] Is XML serialization output guaranteed to be bytewise identical forever?

2019-03-21 Thread Steve Holden
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:33 AM Antoine Pitrou wrote: > [...] > > Most users and applications should /never/ care about the order of XML > attributes. > > Regards > > Antoine > Especially as the standards specifically say that ordering has no semantic impact. Byte-by-byte comparison of XML is

Re: [PSF-Community] Back Story on the Guido, Larry Wall, Anders Hejlsberg, and James Gosling benefit event for CSforALL

2019-03-20 Thread Steve Holden
In Don I trust. On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:05 PM Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 08:43:28PM +0000, Steve Holden wrote: > > Well done, Don and team! Much as I'd love to be there, I'll have to rely > on > > video. > > > > Which I wi

Re: [PSF-Community] Back Story on the Guido, Larry Wall, Anders Hejlsberg, and James Gosling benefit event for CSforALL

2019-03-20 Thread Steve Holden
Well done, Don and team! Much as I'd love to be there, I'll have to rely on video. Which I will be more than sure not to miss! Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:35 PM Don Sheu wrote: > Just posted this to events. Thought it'd be fun to share with the >

Re: [pydotorg-www] Improving jobs filter

2019-03-20 Thread Steve Holden
e to https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues - I don't know whether you've actually looked at the site's source, but it's all there for you to see. I would expectraising an issue would get a response from the relevant developers. Kind regards Steve Holden On Tue,

Re: [pydotorg-www] [Webmaster] python jobs board, suggested changes

2019-03-18 Thread Steve Holden
your interest! Kind regards Steve Holden On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:43 PM Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 3/18/19 10:27 AM, fred.se...@sunrise.com wrote: > > I find the “Location” filter on the jobs board does not enforce any > > rules so there are 3 entries for NYNY as an example. > >

Re: [Python-Dev] PEPs from non-core devs now need a sponsor

2019-03-05 Thread Steve Holden
, but instead focus on the desired results. If lawyering is needed, delegate it to the PSF! I'd rather have you pushing Python forward ;-). Finally, thanks again to everyone who contributes, particularly for managing to hide a great deal of Python's modern-day complexity fr

Re: [Python-Dev] datetime.timedelta total_microseconds

2019-02-27 Thread Steve Holden
preferable? Kind regards Steve Holden On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 3:13 PM Paul Ganssle wrote: > > On 2/26/19 7:03 PM, Chris Barker via Python-Dev wrote: > > This thread petered out, seemingly with a consensus that we should update > the docs -- is anyone doing that? > > I don&#x

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile-time resolution of packages [Was: Another update for PEP 394...]

2019-02-27 Thread Steve Holden
While these are interesting ideas, wouldn't it be better to leave this kind of packaging to snap and similar utilities that bundle the language support and libraries to allow simple isolated installation. Kind regards Steve Holden On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 10:05 PM Neil Schemenauer wrote:

Re: [pydotorg-www] Editor's Group

2019-02-21 Thread Steve Holden
Thanks, MaryBeth. Go ahead, and use your powers only for good! ;-) Kind regards Steve Holden On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 5:04 PM MaryBeth Okerson wrote: > Hello, > > > > I’d like to join the Editor’s Group to make changes on the following pages: > > Python Conferences

Re: [PSF-Community] Sponsorship Sales, Fundraising for Community Orgs

2019-02-18 Thread Steve Holden
Sounds like an excellent resource. Talk to NumFocus - I'm sure a lot of PyData conferences would appreciate information on how to increase sponsorship locally. I've Bcc'd the admin there, so you may be approached or you can use your own connections, I'm sure. Kind regards S

Re: [pydotorg-www] Adding a new music notation software to the wiki

2019-02-17 Thread Steve Holden
Got it, thanks! You should be an editor now! Thanks for your help and your interest in the Python Wiki. Steve Holden On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 10:27 AM Amir Teymuri wrote: > Dear Steve, > > thank you for your reply! My username is AmirTeymuri. > > Bests, > Amir > &g

Re: [pydotorg-www] Adding a new music notation software to the wiki

2019-02-17 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Amir, Thanks for your note. If you create an account on the Wiki and let us know your username we'll be happy to add you tot he editors' group. Kind regards Steve Holden On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 3:38 PM amte wrote: > Hello, > > my Name is Amir Teymuri and i am the

Re: [pydotorg-www] Account on wiki.python.org

2019-02-14 Thread Steve Holden
Hi MaryBeth, Sorry about the problems - I don't know why https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=newaccount is spinning its wheels, I end with a 504 (Gateway Timeout), but I don't yet know what that means. I'm hoping one of the Wiki admins can step in here with more information. Kind regatd

Re: [pydotorg-www] Edition request for the WebFrameworks wiki

2019-02-11 Thread Steve Holden
27;s a wiki, if people hate it it can just be changed again. > > > > Less clear on fullstack/non-fullstack distinction, maybe others have > > opinions? (or you could elaborate further?) > ___ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydo

[Python-Dev] Fwd: How about updating OrderedDict in csv and configparser to regular dict?

2019-01-31 Thread Steve Holden
-- Forwarded message - From: Steve Holden Date: Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] How about updating OrderedDict in csv and configparser to regular dict? To: INADA Naoki And I see that such a patch is now merged. Thanks, Raymond

Re: [Python-Dev] How about updating OrderedDict in csv and configparser to regular dict?

2019-01-31 Thread Steve Holden
rties. regards Steve Holden On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:55 AM INADA Naoki wrote: > Hi, > > csv.DictReader uses OrderedDict by default, from Python 3.6. > But it doesn't make sense anymore, like namedtuple._asdict(). > How about changing default dict type back to regular dict. >

Re: [pydotorg-www] Want to be added to the editors group

2019-01-27 Thread Steve Holden
Currently the only reference to letsfindcourse is a link on https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers. If this remains the case it's probably legit. Kind regards Steve Holden On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 12:54 AM Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 1/26/19 1:08 AM, Chris Angeli

Re: [Python-Dev] Lost sight

2019-01-24 Thread Steve Holden
Like everyone else, I am sorry to hear this news, and extend my sympathies. It's marvellous that you are still able to work on Python at all, still. Since you have to be careful not to do too much, you will just have to choose your battles carefully. Thank you for your many contributions to Python

Re: [pydotorg-www] (no subject)

2019-01-13 Thread Steve Holden
I have no idea. If you can let us know what makes you think we are, perhaps we can come up with a more satisfactory reply. Steve Holden On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 7:44 PM Zeta Jones wrote: > Why are you tracking me > ___ > pydotorg-www mai

Re: [pydotorg-www] Logins on wiki.python.org don't seem to be working

2019-01-04 Thread Steve Holden
Thanks for taking the trouble to fix your issue and update the Wiki. Anbd good luck with your user group! regards Steve Holden On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:53 PM Christer Enfors wrote: > Yes, that works! Thanks a lot! I've now added my newly created user group > to the list - a bit

Re: [pydotorg-www] Pakt Publishing using wiki for SEO

2019-01-02 Thread Steve Holden
It may well (and it might be helpful to find our how much PSF income Pakt's much-vaunted donations program yields). I don't, however, believe that whether they became a sponsor should alter our approach to the Wiki content. regards Steve Holden On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:58 AM Chri

Re: [pydotorg-www] Pakt Publishing using wiki for SEO

2019-01-02 Thread Steve Holden
I'd agree this is abuse. We should revert the content to include the deleted links, and stop these automated updates. regards Steve Holden On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:22 AM M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > I don't know if you are aware, but Pakt has been publishing (apparently) > their

Re: [pydotorg-www] Logins on wiki.python.org don't seem to be working

2019-01-02 Thread Steve Holden
Thanks Marc-André, It seems to me that the Wiki is in need of some tender loving care. Given the outdated nature of Moin's design, I'm wondering what might be the best way t bring it up to date. Does anyone have specific knowledge in this area? regards Steve Holden On Wed, Jan 2, 20

Re: [PSF-Community] Welcome Ewa Jodlowska as the PSF's new Executive Director

2018-12-21 Thread Steve Holden
Wonderful news, and a well-deserved recognition of all Ewa has done for the Foundation. regards Steve Holden On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:36 PM Naomi Ceder wrote: > Hi everyone, > > It is with great pleasure that I announce that Ewa Jodlowska will be the > PSF's first E

Re: [pydotorg-www] Python User Group

2018-12-14 Thread Steve Holden
Hi there, Python Maputo! You will need to create a Wiki account, and let us have the account name. We will add it to the editors list to let you make your entry (and any other Wiki changes you think are important). regards Steve Holden On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 7:48 PM Python Maputo

Re: [Python-Dev] Inclusion of lz4 bindings in stdlib?

2018-12-01 Thread Steve Holden
be even more strident when a library module is a basic version, not to be used for production purposes. This inevitably means, however, that there will be lag in the documentation, which generally speaking lags current best practices. Steve Holden * I am not a significant contributor to the code

Re: [PSF-Community] PSF Newsletter

2018-12-01 Thread Steve Holden
somewhat stumbling bunch of geeks that I joined in 2003. More strength to its arm. Steve Holden On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:28 PM Peter Kropf wrote: > An RSS feed would be appreciated. > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 2:57 PM David Mertz wrote: > >> Ditto, that seems mo

Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Editing Permissions

2018-11-04 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Dave, I don't see any correspondence, but I observe you have already been added to the editors list. S Steve Holden On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 11:07 AM, David Beazley wrote: > Can I get editing permissions back for DavidBeazley? I'd like to edit > some of my entries for Pyt

Re: [pydotorg-www] Adding a Python Training

2018-11-02 Thread Steve Holden
Hi there, thanks for your inquiry. The reason that page is on a Wiki is to make it user-editable. If you register (on the Wiki) an account, we can add you to the editors' list so you can add the necessary content yourself. regards Steve Steve Holden On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 7:22 AM, Dö

Re: [pydotorg-www] Intro

2018-10-31 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Etesh, Many thanks for your interest in helping to keep the Wiki up to date. You should be good to go! regards Steve Steve Holden On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:06 PM, Ehtesh Choudhury wrote: > Hi, > > Just following the instructions on the Python Wiki Frontpage > <https://

Re: [pydotorg-www] Add AlexG to Editors !

2018-10-31 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Alex, We'll be more than happy to add you if you'd just let us have your Wiki username. regards Steve Steve Holden On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Alex Garel wrote: > Hello, > > I wanted to add the Mu editor to the page > https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonDeb

Re: [pydotorg-www] [Webmaster] 504 when creating account on Wiki

2018-10-30 Thread Steve Holden
Anyone on pydotorg-www able to respond to this, please? regards Steve Steve Holden On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Alex Garel wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to create an account on https://wiki.python.org > > I've tried to authenticate using OpenID (launchpad) and also c

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Governance Proposals

2018-10-26 Thread Steve Holden
PSF to manage such activity. Following the debate with interest, but mostly lurking due to my usual absence of skin in the game. Bonne chance! regards Steve Steve Holden On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 6:17 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 13:20, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:

Re: [pydotorg-www] Contributing to wiki.python.org

2018-10-22 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Trey, Many thanks for your interest in the Wiki. It's always great when we have new volunteers to help with it! I've added you to the editors group, so you should be good to go. regards Steve Steve Holden On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:03 PM, Trey Huffine wrote: > Hi, > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Some PRs to merge?

2018-10-20 Thread Steve Holden
This is terrific work. We all know that the best way to encourage contributors is to use their usable contributions. Thank you very much, Stephane and Victor (again)! Steve Holden On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Stephane Wirtel wrote: > On 10/20, Victor Stinner wrote: > >> Le

Re: [pydotorg-www] Join Editors Group

2018-10-17 Thread Steve Holden
Hi David, Thanks very much for your interest. We appreciate the time volunteers spend to keep our Wiki up to date, You are now and editor. Go to it! regards Steve Steve Holden On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:16 PM, David Feldman wrote: > Hi. I would like to join the Editors group with

Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Editor Access

2018-10-16 Thread Steve Holden
Thanks, Kumar, I've added you to the editors group, so you should be good to go. regards Steve Steve Holden On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Kumar Anirudha via pydotorg-www < pydotorg-www@python.org> wrote: > Hi Editor Admin Group, > > I'd like access to edit pytho

[pydotorg-www] Fwd: [Webmaster] xss and open redirect in svn.python.org

2018-09-27 Thread Steve Holden
We've been notified of these issues from svn.python.org - don't know whether any action is required. regards Steve Holden -- Forwarded message - From: Stefan Jansson Date: Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Webmaster] xss and open redirect in svn.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Questions about signal handling.

2018-09-27 Thread Steve Holden
I'm afraid Kristjan left CCP some time ago, and may not subscribe to this list any more. Steve Holden On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 4:23 PM Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:09:26 -0600 > Eric Snow wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:45 AM Victor Stinner > wrote

Re: [pydotorg-www] Request to edit wiki page

2018-09-22 Thread Steve Holden
Thanks for your assistance, Giles. regards Steve Holden On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 7:51 PM Giles Thomas wrote: > On 21/09/18 17:35, Mats Wichmann wrote: > > On 09/21/2018 09:54 AM, Giles Thomas wrote: > > > >>> Gah, this area is a bit confused. > >>> &g

Re: [pydotorg-www] Member of Python Editorial Group

2018-09-22 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Pratul, Thanks for your interest. You should have editing rights now. regards Steve Holden On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 7:37 PM Pratul Kumar wrote: > Hey, > I am Pratul Kumar, co-organizer of PyJaipur community. > > https://www.meetup.com/PyJaipur/ > > We are a communit

Re: [pydotorg-www] Adding PyJaipur on list of Local User Group

2018-09-21 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Shivank, Thanks for your note. I've updated the Editors Group, so you should now be able to edit the pages you'd like. Steve Holden On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:24 AM Shivank Gautam wrote: > Hey There, > We some Python lovers from Jaipur, India initiated a local Python use

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