Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:22:24 +1000, "Claude Yu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Hi all, > > Below is the message I put in Linux Forum early on asking for help but that > was under Mandrake 2006 distribution and now FC5. > Yes, I was so naive to move between kernels and thought that the problem

[Alsa-user] how to send sound to both soundcards ?

2006-06-13 Thread Sebastien Montagne
hi alsa-people :) I'm new to alsa, I've got two (different) soundcards connected to my PC. I would like to know if it's possible or not to send the same output to both soundcards. I managed to do that by connecting output from first card to line input of second one, thanks to a jack-double-

[Alsa-user] HOWTo basics on Alsa modules

2006-06-13 Thread Peter Ho
Hi Users, Firstly, I would like to thank all the users that replied to the problem I had with my Intel HDA sound. The problem was with a version of alsa that it not have full support. I am still a novice linux and debian user and the question I would like to ask may seem basic, so I hope you wo

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Claude Yu wrote: > Hi all, > > Below is the message I put in Linux Forum early on asking for help but that > was under Mandrake 2006 distribution and now FC5. > Yes, I was so naive to move between kernels and thought that the problem > would have gone. > I did actually insta

Re: [Alsa-user] HOWTo basics on Alsa modules

2006-06-13 Thread Matthias Koenig
Peter Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My current situation is this. I have an older version of alsa, which I > obtained using apt-get and then modconf to select the modules for > snd-hda-intel. The drivers are part of the kernel. So they are part of your linux-image-* package. You shouldn't ne

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 11:09 +0200, Dominique Michel wrote: > ??? It is no snd-riptide driver in alsa. I don't know how mandrake can > found a driver that doesn't exist. > > I am affraid at the only thing you can do is to buy a new soundcard if > you want to have sound in linux with your box. Look

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:59:51 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 11:09 +0200, Dominique Michel wrote: > > ??? It is no snd-riptide driver in alsa. I don't know how mandrake can > > found a driver that doesn't exist. > > > > I am affraid at the only thing you can do

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 19:34 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > Again, try a live-cd distribution first - it's much simpler than > compiling ALSA and probably kernel. > I think the latest Knoppix should be good - apparently the Riptide driver is rather new, and it will not be in the kernel until 2.6

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
Sergei, Your mail server keep blocking me, can you fix it? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 194.67.23.20 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 Access from ip address 216.158.38.3 blocked. Visit http://win.mail.ru/cgi-bin/support_bl?ip=216.158.38.3 Giving up on 194.67.23.20. Lee

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:59:51 -0400 > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 11:09 +0200, Dominique Michel wrote: >>> ??? It is no snd-riptide driver in alsa. I don't know how mandrake can >>> found a driver that doesn't exist

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Lee Revell wrote: > On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 19:34 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: >> Again, try a live-cd distribution first - it's much simpler than >> compiling ALSA and probably kernel. >> > > I think the latest Knoppix should be good - apparently the Riptide > driver is rathe

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 10:07 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Lee Revell wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 19:34 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > >> Again, try a live-cd distribution first - it's much simpler than > >> compiling ALSA and probably kernel. > >> > > > > I think the lat

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:52:28 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sergei, > > Your mail server keep blocking me, can you fix it? > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 194.67.23.20 does not like recipient. > Remote host said: 550 Access from ip address 216.158.38.3 blocked. Visit > http://win.mail.

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread John Haxby
Lee Revell wrote: > I think it's a problem that FC5 does not have an RPM package containing > these modules. > I think it's a question of cost of maintenance. FC5 is currently on 2.6.12.20 (although you might be forgiven fo thinking is actually 2.6.16-1.2133_FC5). /proc/asound says that we

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:39:08 +0100 John Haxby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > I think it's a problem that FC5 does not have an RPM package containing > > these modules. > > > I think it's a question of cost of maintenance. FC5 is currently on > 2.6.12.20 (although you migh

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 20:39 +0100, John Haxby wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > I think it's a problem that FC5 does not have an RPM package containing > > these modules. > > > I think it's a question of cost of maintenance. FC5 is currently on > 2.6.12.20 (although you might be forgiven fo thin

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 20:39 +0100, John Haxby wrote: > On the other hand, perhaps someone would volunteer to de-couple the > ALSA modules from the rest of the kernel in the kernel build so that > the ALSA modules can be updated and then we'll get to be able to > install newer versions of ALSA witho

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 22:49 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > You are "aiming too low". > > The true answers are: > > 1) drivers running in user space; Agreed. This would help many things. For example it would solve the binary only driver issue - vendors that feel the need to develop closed dri

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:05:40 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 22:49 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > You are "aiming too low". > > > > The true answers are: > > > > 1) drivers running in user space; > > Agreed. This would help many things. For example it w

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
I'm not going to participate in another binary driver flamewar. Everything interesting that can be said about the issue has been said. You're entitled to your opinion. On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 23:40 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:05:40 -0400 > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Lee Revell wrote: > On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 10:07 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Lee Revell wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 19:34 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Again, try a live-cd distribution first - it's much simpler than compiling ALSA and pr

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:42:42 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not going to participate in another binary driver flamewar. > Everything interesting that can be said about the issue has been said. > You're entitled to your opinion. > > On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 23:40 +0300, Sergei Stes

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem as always id dependencies. Have the modules really beendesinged > to work on their own, or do they suddenly have weird dependencies to say > alsalib. > Again and again, fully self-contained binary driv

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, John Haxby wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: >> I think it's a problem that FC5 does not have an RPM package containing >> these modules. >> . > > On the other hand, perhaps someone would volunteer to de-couple the ALSA > modules from the rest of the kernel in the kernel build so

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:05:40 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 22:49 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: You are "aiming too low". The true answers are: 1) drivers running in user space; Agreed. This would help many

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course it can load that way. That is modules are. The problem is that > modules are so intimatley connected with the kernel that a module for > kernel A in general does not have the right entry points for Kernel B.

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread John Haxby
Bill Unruh wrote: > The philosophy of Mandrake and Redhat has been that updates are for > security concerns, not for upgrading the system. Upgrades are handled by > new releases and that trying to make sure that a particular upgrade works > together with 3 or 4 different distros would be a logistic

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread John Haxby
Bill Unruh wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, John Haxby wrote: > >> >> On the other hand, perhaps someone would volunteer to de-couple the ALSA >> modules from the rest of the kernel in the kernel build so that the ALSA >> modules can be updated and then we'll get to be able to install newer >> version

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread John Haxby
Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > Not really necessary. The kernel module utilities have a provision that > enables you to override the "original" kernel modules. Just put your > "newer" kernel modules somewhere in: > > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/ > > do a "depmod -a" and those modules should

[Alsa-user] duplicate output to 2 devices

2006-06-13 Thread Mikhail Ramendik
Hello, I would like to create a virtual device (pcm) that outputs sound to two pcms (hw:0,0 and hw:0,4) How do I write the ,asoundrc file? Should be a common examople but I could not find one... -- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik ___ Alsa-user mailing li

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 23:05 +0100, John Haxby wrote: > What I was suggesting was pulling out the alsa modules into a > separate > kernel-alsa binary RPM, compiled from the same sources as everything > else. It would then be possible to produce, say, a > kernel-alsa-1.0.11 > src.rpm that will pr

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 00:28 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:19:07 -0700 (PDT) > Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Of course it can load that way. That is modules are. The problem is that > > modules are so intimatley connected with the kernel that a module for > >

Re: [Alsa-user] Cyrrus Logic Crystal CS4237B to configure

2006-06-13 Thread Hulin Thibaud
Hello ! I tested yours advices in a script and this is the result (curiously, the command modprobe has not writting in the file result but there produce always the same message : error inserting... no such device). The problem is that the command 00:10 (the NCTRL port) is not active but close, a

[Alsa-user] About the Creative Audigy 2 SE (driver ca0106 currently)

2006-06-13 Thread Frédéric Lenté
Hi everybody, I've recently bought this card and it seems to have a midi sequencer and a hardware mixer. I saw in the supported soundcards list that the linux driver doesn't support these options for the moment. I would like to know if these options will be implemented or if it's clearly impossible

Re: [Alsa-user] About the Creative Audigy 2 SE (driver ca0106 currently)

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 01:27 +0200, Frédéric Lenté wrote: > Hi everybody, > I've recently bought this card and it seems to have a midi sequencer > and a hardware mixer. I saw in the supported soundcards list that the > linux driver doesn't support these options for the moment. I would > like to kno

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:00:09 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You do realize that freezing the ABI would amount to freezing kernel > development, due to the commitment not to break old binary drivers? > > Your scheme would have made it impossible to implement suspend/resume or > r

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 02:39 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > No, I don't. > > I realize that there were Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT, > Windows 2000, Windows XP. > > Or Solaris 4..10. > > Or whatever. > > That is, from time to time binary interface specs get updated as > necessary. > > N

[Alsa-user] Musix 0.49 released!

2006-06-13 Thread Marcos Guglielmetti
https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Anuncio-Musix049#English Musix 0.49 released! Download ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu+linux-distros/ututo-e/ https://e.ututo.org.ar/utiles/torrent/ Thanks to the support of the Ututo project, FSF, FSF, Ourproject and to the usual collaborators, the Musix projec

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 03:07 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:43:42 -0400 > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 02:39 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > > No, I don't. > > > > > > I realize that there were Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT, > > >

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 23:08 +0100, John Haxby wrote: > Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > Not really necessary. The kernel module utilities have a provision that > > enables you to override the "original" kernel modules. Just put your > > "newer" kernel modules somewhere in: > > > > /lib/modules/`

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 03:07 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > One of really nice human features is the ability to understand other > person's reason. > > I want to be able to install updated (ALSA or any Linux for that matter) > driver > with no more clicks/keystrokes I need under Windows - howeve

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:50:27 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 03:07 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > One of really nice human features is the ability to understand other > > person's reason. > > > > I want to be able to install updated (ALSA or any Linux for t

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:43:42 -0400 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 02:39 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > No, I don't. > > > > I realize that there were Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT, > > Windows 2000, Windows XP. > > > > Or Solaris 4..10. > > > > Or whateve

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:15:49 -0700 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If your distribution supports it, upgrading alsa kernel modules - for > example - should be as easy as upgrading any other package (using yum, > apt-get or the package manager of your choice). I've been doin

Re: [Alsa-user] Cyrrus Logic Crystal CS4237B to configure

2006-06-13 Thread Rene Herman
Hulin Thibaud wrote: > # modprobe snd-cs4236 isapnp=0 port=0x530 cport=Ox210 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=0 x210, not x210 > # cat /sys/devices/pnp0/00:0f/id > CSC0010 > # cat /sys/devices/pnp0/00:0f/resources > state = active > io 0x210-0x217 > # cat /sys/devices/pnp0/00:10/id > CSC > # cat /sys/devi

Re: [Alsa-user] Cyrrus Logic Crystal CS4237B to configure

2006-06-13 Thread Rene Herman
Rene Herman wrote: > 7) cat /sys/devices/pnp0/00:0f/resources > 8) echo auto >/sys/devices/pnp0/00:0f/resources > 9) echo activate >/sys/devices/pnp0/00:0f/resources Sorry, substitute 00:10 for 00:0f in step 7, 8 and 9. Rene. ___ Alsa-user mailing li

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > Not really necessary. The kernel module utilities have a provision that > enables you to override the "original" kernel modules. Just put your > "newer" kernel modules somewhere in: > > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/ > > do a "depmod -a" an

Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

2006-06-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > > > Not really necessary. The kernel module utilities have a provision that > > enables you to override the "original" kernel modules. Just put your > > "newer