Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-30 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 12:15:06 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: If I may... I think the solution suggested by Nathan does not lean toward the excludes. Yes, that's correct. The thread only mentions excludes as a workaround for situations where program=GNUTAR dumptypes are still being using,

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 30 July 2014 09:29:45 Nathan Stratton Treadway did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 12:15:06 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: If I may... I think the solution suggested by Nathan does not lean toward the excludes. Yes, that's correct. The thread only mentions

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-30 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:26:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Ergo, a string ./lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs isn't valid because it references 2 more subdirs. And I have tried just ./rpc_pipefs, which, while it should be valid, did not work. And a simple ./lib make it skip about 50 megs worth of stuff

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 30 July 2014 12:44:37 Nathan Stratton Treadway did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:26:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Ergo, a string ./lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs isn't valid because it references 2 more subdirs. And I have tried just ./rpc_pipefs, which, while it

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 July 2014 01:15:06 Olivier Nicole did opine And Gene did reply: Gene, So in a roundabout way, tar's mouthyness coaxed me into buying a better printer. And if the excludes work tonight, I'm happy, camping or... If I may... I think the solution suggested by Nathan does not

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-29 Thread Debra S Baddorf
On Jul 29, 2014, at 5:53 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: This points toward the use of more than one excludes file, location defined in the dumptype. That would work, but demands a dumptype stanza per DLE in the worst case. My exclude lists are added in the dumptypes rather

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 27 July 2014 17:29:49 Alan Hodgson did opine And Gene did reply: On Friday, July 25, 2014 06:00:35 PM you wrote: No, at the end of the day, we are on the same page Deb. Its a matter of scale of course and that cannot be helped. I just want my softlinks to actually be backed up,

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 July 2014 04:53:47 r.vick...@rhul.ac.uk did opine And Gene did reply: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Gene Heskett wrote: However, in one failure path it quoted, there are no softlinks. It simply did not like /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs, which actually goes 2 or 3 levels deeper, encountering

RE: [BULK] Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-28 Thread Joi L. Ellis
...@amanda.org [mailto:owner-amanda-us...@amanda.org] On Behalf Of Gene Heskett Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:09 AM To: r.vick...@rhul.ac.uk Cc: amanda-users@amanda.org; bug-...@gnu.org Subject: [BULK] Re: Question on the one-filesystem option On Monday 28 July 2014 04:53:47 r.vick...@rhul.ac.uk

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-28 Thread Brian Cuttler
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 04:15:43PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 25 July 2014 15:26:00 Debra S Baddorf did opine And Gene did reply: I just create two DLEs mynode / backuptype mynode /boot backuptype Then amdump myconfig ( or amdump myconfig

Re: [BULK] Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-28 Thread Gene Heskett
4:09 AM To: r.vick...@rhul.ac.uk Cc: amanda-users@amanda.org; bug-...@gnu.org Subject: [BULK] Re: Question on the one-filesystem option On Monday 28 July 2014 04:53:47 r.vick...@rhul.ac.uk did opine And Gene did reply: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Gene Heskett wrote: However, in one failure path

RE: [BULK] Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-28 Thread Joi L. Ellis
...@wdtv.com] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 12:29 PM To: Joi L. Ellis Cc: r.vick...@rhul.ac.uk; amanda-users@amanda.org; bug-...@gnu.org Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: Question on the one-filesystem option On Monday 28 July 2014 11:00:25 Joi L. Ellis did opine And Gene did reply: I've been doing some googling

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-28 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 18:00:35 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: created them for me. It did not because they were not in the backup, they were skipped due to the perceived by tar, different filesystem error. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 13:29:19 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I can do that, but how

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 July 2014 18:48:55 Nathan Stratton Treadway did opine And Gene did reply: On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 18:00:35 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: created them for me. It did not because they were not in the backup, they were skipped due to the perceived by tar, different filesystem error.

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-28 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 04:38:32 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: So I'm still standing here on my stump and proclaiming that tars --one- file-system implementation is broken. And has been since somewhere post 1.22. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 05:08:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Crazy. There is no

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 July 2014 22:29:19 Nathan Stratton Treadway did opine And Gene did reply: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 04:38:32 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: So I'm still standing here on my stump and proclaiming that tars --one- file-system implementation is broken. And has been since somewhere post

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-28 Thread Olivier Nicole
Gene, So in a roundabout way, tar's mouthyness coaxed me into buying a better printer. And if the excludes work tonight, I'm happy, camping or... If I may... I think the solution suggested by Nathan does not lean toward the excludes. Solving your problem by using a crafted exclude list that

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 July 2014 18:00:35 Gene Heskett did opine And Gene did reply: On Friday 25 July 2014 16:49:02 Debra S Baddorf did opine And Gene did reply: On Jul 25, 2014, at 3:15 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday 25 July 2014 15:26:00 Debra S Baddorf did opine And

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-27 Thread Alan Hodgson
On Friday, July 25, 2014 06:00:35 PM you wrote: No, at the end of the day, we are on the same page Deb. Its a matter of scale of course and that cannot be helped. I just want my softlinks to actually be backed up, without any dereference, and its not even with tar 1.27.1 happening. You

Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; It turns out some of my backups for this machine will not be usable, particularly for a bare metal recovery on a new drive, due to a miss- understanding of the --one-filesystem option by tar-1.27, and 1.27.1 does not fix it. The problem is that this system is currently installed

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-25 Thread Debra S Baddorf
I just create two DLEs mynode / backuptype mynode /boot backuptype Then amdump myconfig ( or amdump myconfig mynode ) will get both of them.Is this not an option for you? Deb Baddorf Fermilab On Jul 25, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-25 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 02:45:50PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; It turns out some of my backups for this machine will not be usable, particularly for a bare metal recovery on a new drive, due to a miss- understanding of the --one-filesystem option by tar-1.27, and 1.27.1 does not

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-25 Thread Jon LaBadie
In my previous answer I forgot one other combination. If the symbolic link target is a directory on another file system: Without the --dereference option the symbolic link is archived. With --dereference, but without --one-file-system, the directory and its contents are archived. With

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 July 2014 15:26:00 Debra S Baddorf did opine And Gene did reply: I just create two DLEs mynode / backuptype mynode /boot backuptype Then amdump myconfig ( or amdump myconfig mynode ) will get both of them.Is this not an option for you? That

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 July 2014 15:59:37 Jon LaBadie did opine And Gene did reply: On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 02:45:50PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; It turns out some of my backups for this machine will not be usable, particularly for a bare metal recovery on a new drive, due to a miss-

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-25 Thread Debra S Baddorf
On Jul 25, 2014, at 3:15 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday 25 July 2014 15:26:00 Debra S Baddorf did opine And Gene did reply: I just create two DLEs mynode / backuptype mynode /boot backuptype Then amdump myconfig ( or amdump myconfig

Re: Question on the one-filesystem option

2014-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 July 2014 16:49:02 Debra S Baddorf did opine And Gene did reply: On Jul 25, 2014, at 3:15 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday 25 July 2014 15:26:00 Debra S Baddorf did opine And Gene did reply: I just create two DLEs mynode / backuptype mynode