Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-22 Thread sbjohnston
. -Original Message- From: Jay Bromley jayw5...@cox.net To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Fri, Jan 22, 2010 12:38 am Subject: Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System Hi Jim, I just went through nearly a year of this! You would not believe

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-22 Thread Bry Carling
Do any of you guys have any idea as to how many Field Engineers the FCC employs? NOT many! The last time I checked, they had a grand total of TWO for the southeast United States. Out of Atlanta. Do you really think they are going to go out and get involved with this when they have all of

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-22 Thread Paul Christensen
Years ago my young son bought one of those scooters with his own hard-earned money... Steve, The switch-mode chargers used for scooters are notoriously noisy. I had a similar issue with the neighbor to the side of me. These supplies offer little or no common-mode filtering between the

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-22 Thread Robert A. Poff WB3AWJ
It can be quite interesting approaching someone who innocently is a source of interference. Years ago when I worked in two-way we had a problem with interference on the input of a customers repeater. A signal would come and go, sounded like TV raster. Was strong enough to take out the

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-22 Thread sbjohnston
entertainment value. -Original Message- From: Bry Carling bcarl...@cfl.rr.com To: AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Fri, Jan 22, 2010 8:50 am Subject: Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System Do any of you

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-22 Thread Mike Sawyer
, January 21, 2010 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System You can certainly avail yourself of the FCC but before you start contacting them I would (after following through with your plan to make sure something your neighbor has, is indeed the problem) attempt to work something

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-22 Thread Rob Atkinson
If this is a sign of what we can expect in the way of FCC policy (and I hope it is not) then the message I get is every man for himself and if the noise floor raises, then we have to raise our signal strength along with it in various ways such as increasing ERP and improving S/N ratio on rx. I do

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-22 Thread Rob Atkinson
Mike, glad to read one account of the FCC doing something. I have always thought that I'd welcome a visit from them. I have nothing to fear. I know I'm linear, clean (including 2nd harmonic), and under 1.5 kw. AND, I imagine they'd have some fancy super dooper analytical gear with them so I'd

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-22 Thread Jay Bromley
.. -- From: Mike Sawyer w3...@verizon.net Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 5:21 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System Rob, (et al), I wouldn't count on the ARRgghhL doing

[AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-21 Thread JAMES HANLON
Jim, You reported the following. I have recorded a problem like this with an 8566B in peak mode. There is a continuous sweep from about 7.1mc to 8.5mc at a two to five second rate. Traced it to a neighbor who just installed the X10 security and home control system. It's using the spread

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-21 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:51 PM, JAMES HANLON knjhan...@msn.com wrote: Jim, If I had a problem like that, I would discuss it with Ed Hare, W1RFI, the ARRL Laboratory Manager.  Ed is quite active in fighting RFI, especially that involved with BPL systems.  I am pretty sure that you do not

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-21 Thread w4awm
I am not familiar with this particular system, but most X-10 equipment uses the home's power lines for transmission. If you are both on the same transformer, you may be getting interference from your home's power line. You may need some power line filtering. Depending on your gear, you may

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-21 Thread sbjohnston
:51 pm Subject: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System Jim, You reported the following. I have recorded a problem like this with an 8566B in peak mode. There is a continuous sweep from about 7.1mc to 8.5mc at a two to five second rate. Traced it to a neighbor who just installed the X10

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-21 Thread Jim Wilhite
Sometime in the recent past there was a ham in Houston, TX (I believe) who had interference that he traced to a neighbor who had two of those electric scooters, one for him and one for his wife. The noise was on every night and the battery charge circuits put trash on the AC lines that tore

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-21 Thread james.liles
Hi Jim: May have been a coincidence that the same home started radiating a sweep that behaves like spread spectrum 7.1mc to 8.5mc at the same time that the security/control system was installed. I hate to knock on a neighbors door and ask to walk around with a probe looking for illegal or

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-21 Thread Rob Atkinson
You can certainly avail yourself of the FCC but before you start contacting them I would (after following through with your plan to make sure something your neighbor has, is indeed the problem) attempt to work something out with your neighbor first. I have been through the RFI dance myself on the

Re: [AMRadio] QRM fron Neighbor's Security System

2010-01-21 Thread Jay Bromley
Hi Jim, I just went through nearly a year of this! You would not believe how wide or how far those signals from a little battery charger can go. Over and down the next street from my house that was about 1/8 a mike away! Also what made this even worse it was HF only! With the help of my local