Hope we will have a good K4AMG log on Sat.
K4AMG MARC
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- Original Message -
From: TJ Campie tom.cam...@gmail.com
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:37 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 pass around 0230 May 2
If I worked you, can you please send the info from
Hi Peter,
Easy Sats is a misnomer, the FM satellites are only straightforward to
operate through as long as there are no more than four or five satellite
operators within the footprint. That's hardly ever the case for Europe or I
guess the East and West coasts of the USA.
73 Trevor M5AKA
Trevor,
I guess that makes sense - as long as it's not me!
Peter
G8KEK
From: M5AKA [mailto:m5...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 25 March 2014 09:34
To: Peter Wilson; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Over Europe
Hi Peter,
Easy Sats is a misnomer, the FM satellites are only
Some passes over the US can approach that level of futility. I don't
think I've heard a pass where not one QSO was completed though.
Biggest problem here is people can't hear the bird and then keep
calling even though they can't hear it.
73.
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Peter
Paul,
I think it's the same here. I could here a number of stations opening the
satellite, then within a few seconds they were over-run by another stations
carrier.
Seems such a shame as the audio appears to be good when it does eventually get
through.
I am approaching my first 100 contacts
As others have said, it's a single channel bird, so with contention
(even with perfect behavior on the part of the operators), the channel
is going to be overloaded.
I recommend to folks starting out with satellites to give SO-50 a try,
but late at night when there are fewer people competing
Bob,
Look in the BB archives as recently as September 2013:
http://ww2.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/31day/msg99924.html
73
Clayton
W5PFG
On Feb 18, 2014 12:56 PM, Bob- W7LRD w7...@comcast.net wrote:
found the tones in the sqf file, what exactly is the setup for a 910H for
the two tones?
Its a go for 1849AK local time tonite, thnx guys
73 n6spp
Bq40si76
~via iP5
On Feb 6, 2014, at 19:51, Eric T-N6SPP n6...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi guys(+bcc list here too)-Portable with
Ft-530 and anli800 tele whip from grid- BQ40SI76
Will try for the following passes:
(All AK local time)
Have you used SO-50 before? It's not always easy to hear, even with large
beams. However, it hears excellently. Before the 74.4 command was made public,
I used to enable it automatically with a 2 watt HT and packet beacon every 3
minutes, to an omni.
73, Drew KO4MA
-Original Message-
Hi Peter,
Single channel FM transponders work best when there aren't many users. As
you've noticed over densely populated areas it can be difficult to make a
contact during peak times, but persevere, you'll succeed eventually.
Back in 2005 Pedro EB4DKA had some contacts via SO-50 running
It's got a weaker downlink. I don't think the receiver is any less
sensitive than the other birds, but since it's only running 250 mW, it's
harder to hear.
The other issue is that SO-50 doesn't transmit a constant carrier like
AO-27 did (did AO-51? I never operated through it), so it doesn't
Paul:
I didn't realize that it's downlink was only 250mw. No wonder.
I don't think AO-51 had a constant carrier. But it seemed that way
sometimes. And, it frequently got my receiver to full quieting,
while SO-50 almost never does that.
One reason why I was asking is that I have been
Les,
I believe I am one of the callers that you never got back to on a pass a
couple of weeks ago!
SO-50's frequency seems to be shifted down by about 5 kHz from the
published downlink. What does your Doppler.sqf say?
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Les Rayburn
SO-50 uses a corner mounted single UHF whip for the downlink, so it is linearly
polarized, and is often shielded by the body of the spacecraft. It also runs
about 250mw, which is pretty low. By comparision FO-29 is circularly polarized.
Operating portable on SO-50 it is extremely beneficial to
Adding to Drew's comments...
A.) Reception is poor. Especially high elevation passes.
Yep I hear SO-50 better with an IO antenna mounted on my HT sitting
in the shack than with my fixed elevation yagis mounted outside
when the bird is overhead. I can twist and turn the HT to match the bird
On 9/3/13, B J va6...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/3/13, Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.net wrote:
... As long as we have these self proclaimed Satellite Instructors
neglecting
the benefit of Full Duplex operation ...
One thing I've noticed a few times on the linear birds is how some
On 9/3/13, Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.net wrote:
... As long as we have these self proclaimed Satellite Instructors
neglecting
the benefit of Full Duplex operation ...
One thing I've noticed a few times on the linear birds is how some
stations operate as if they're still on HF. They
B J wrote:
On 9/3/13, Clint Bradfordclintbra...@earthlink.net wrote:
... As long as we have these self proclaimed Satellite Instructors
neglecting
the benefit of Full Duplex operation ...
One thing I've noticed a few times on the linear birds is how some
stations operate as if they're still
I tried that. And I can assure you both I was very polite. My first attempt was
replied to with three words, all in caps and exclamation points. I took that as
being yelled at. Then later when the person was 'speaking' to me again, I tried
a second time with more better detail to very politely
... I may be mistaken but wouldn't instances like this be viable candidates
to
notify an ARRL Official Observer about?
Heck, let's call the FCC. Let's get some $5-10K fines daily issued for such
illegal
activity ...
You gotta be kidding.
For a decade now I have witnessed problems handled
@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-50
... I may be mistaken but wouldn't instances like this be viable
candidates to
notify an ARRL Official Observer about?
Heck, let's call the FCC. Let's get some $5-10K fines daily issued for such
illegal activity ...
You gotta be kidding.
For a decade now I
I want to respond the comments on the bb. I feel education to the newbie
operators is a must. I do this in my presentations and demos at ham fests
and club meetings. I think that AMSAT Area Coordinators are a source
to do this. Er13 1:08 PM, Kevin M wrote:
I tried that. And I can assure
I want to respond to the comments on this topic on the bbs. I feel
education to the newbie
operators is a must. I do this in my presentations and demos at ham fests
and club meetings. I think that AMSAT Area Coordinators are a source
to do this. Coordinators can be mentors and demonstrate
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-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Clint Bradford
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 4:57 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-50
... I may be mistaken but wouldn't instances like
My reply was being sarcastic - an over-reaction to your over-reaction ...
Sent from my iPod touch.
On Sep 2, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Bryce Salmi bstguitar...@gmail.com wrote:
I said the ARRL Official Observers, not the FCC...
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Hi Michael,
Are you using any software to work the Satellites?
For example Ham Radio Deluxe or SatPC32.
I tried to get it working with HRD and it is not possible on the other
hand
with SatPC32 it is working like a charm.
So give it a try
73 Jan PE0SAT
On 01-09-2012 16:47, Michael J.
Mike,
Some FT-847s have been reported to be a bit flakey with SO-50. Others have
reported no problems. I have a different rig now, but my experience was
that it normally worked fine, but that every now and then I would get a pass
like yours. The PL deviation and frequency checked fine, so I
I use the DELETE button when I dont like the crap posted and life goes on
- Original Message -
From: Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.net
To: Ben Jackson b...@innismir.net
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:29:06 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-50 Interference
Clint, why on earth would you feel compelled to get in the middle of another
ham's business or posting ?
you are truly amazinga true 'legend in your own mind'
jeez, just shut up one in awhile
73, Ted, K7TRK
-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org
I dislike assholes in any aspect of my life. Amateur radio conversations
should be positive and
entertaining and educational experiences. And not a demeaning, name-calling,
childish activity.
I suppose you also sent messages to the other two guys who wrote, Way to go -
insulting
fellow hams
The prosecution rests
-Original Message-
From: Clint Bradford [mailto:clintbra...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:49 PM
To: Ted
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Interference
I dislike assholes in any aspect of my life. Amateur radio conversations
On Wed, 30 May 2012, Ted wrote:
Clint, why on earth would you feel compelled to get in the middle of another
ham's business or posting ?
Another Ham's business... Talking (Complaining) about satellites... On a
public mailing list... about... satellites... And we can't comment on it?
BEN And we can't comment on it? Wait... What?
Ted has an anti-Clint war waging in his own mind. Not sure what started it.
But he is surely
one who sees the demonstrable successful promotion of this aspect of the
amateur radio hobby
by me as something he cannot deal with.
Clint Bradford,
Maybe the other ham the original guy was complaining about was working SO50
with a dual band/single receive HT himself and was not able to monitor the
downlink while he was calling.
John -AG9D
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Ben Jackson b...@innismir.net wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2012, Ted wrote:
the original guy I was speaking of was the station the original poster
mentioned as not listening on the downlink
John - AG9D
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM, John Becker w0...@big-river.net wrote:
I was the original guy and your not even close or warm.
John
At 04:37 PM 5/30/2012, you
... keying up on top of each other, the receiver was deaf ...
I am, sorry, John ... I intended to ONLY listen and record that pass, until I
heard The hardest Workin' AMSAT Rep Patrick in AZ come on ...
But I clearly heard a few successful contacts ... before and after mine with
Patrick.
I
Am I to understand that the only active FM satellites now are AO-27 and SO-50?
Not Really...
HO-68 bit the dust.
Might be back.
AO-51 is in the crapper for a while.
Has been on most afternoons 145.880 up and 435.150 down. West coast stations
might more often hear it on the eastern passes.
- Original Message -
From: Giacobbe Lauser 23ta...@gmail.com
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:13 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 and other Lamentations
So, I ran the passes yesterday and got updates on all the current sats
so I could get back into things after an
About 700km above the earth, or 435 miles. Your range will vary, of
course (it's 700km above you only during a 90 pass! other times, it's
more...)
That's less than the distance between Savannah, GA and Miami, FL!
73,
Mark N8MH
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Ronald Nutter
Hi Ron,
Use a tracking program to help explain this. The altitude/height for SO-59
varies between 615-704 km above the earth because of the orbit. The range
depends upon the maximum elevation that the satellite reaches on each pass.
At the beginning of a pass for SO-50 the range is around
Hi Jake,
Oh, so THAT explains it! I heard you on SO-50 last night, called you
back a few times but it didn't seem like you ever heard me. No one
else was on the bird at the time -- my duplex downlink was full
quieting at the time so I knew I was making it in as well. I was
intrigued by your
On 1/13/2011 5:55 PM, normn3...@stny.rr.com wrote:
Hi all!
What power management scheme is used for so-50 and ao-51 when the birds are
eclipsed?
thanks,
Norm n3ykf
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Not
First of all: thanks to everyone who replied, on-list or off, for all the
helpful comments, kind welcomes, and offers for skeds. What a great group!
Early yesterday evening I listened for a pass of AO-51 and then another one
of the FM birds, forget which. (I had only planned on the first, but
That's kind of late, though if there's any one out there it nice to have a
bit of a chat. Did you transmit the with the 74.4 PL to turn the bird on? At
that hour, it may not be on.
I try to work late passes on SO-50 when I can. The pass you tried to work
was too far east to work from Phoenix,
I've not had any problems bringing the bird up during the late passes such
as the one in question. Between 2200 and 0600 eastern, SO-50 is usually dead
and I find myself talking to myself H-I.
If you'd like to make another attempt I'd be willing to work a schedule with
you to test your gear and
Very likely it's Neil, W6FOG, a long time satellite operator, usually from his
sailboat.
Greg KO6TH
From: k...@cox.net
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:44:31 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 today at 1555 UTC
I worked a station with call ending in 6FOG on SO-50 this
Dave -
Thanks for the reminder -
I forgot about the 74.4Hz turn on tone -
I had a quite pass last night -- I was hesitant to transmit until
I heard somebody on the downlink. Then I tried a test call (with
the 67hz on) - and
did not hear my downlink -- adding to the puzzle.
jesh - yet another
I was also surprised at how quiet SO-50 was during my initial attempts. I
thought there something wrong with my setup. I find the traffic on SO-50 is
very light. Don't know why...could be the time of day (or night in my case).
I had great help from KC2WQW and W6ZKH. Regardless of anyone
SO-50 is generally quiet during the day for a few reasons. Many people are at
work, and it's also a weak bird that is not as easy to hear as AO-51. It also
requires a PL to turn it on if it's off, and then another PL to use it.
Also many satellite enthusiasts use the TS-2000 which has a
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