Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:13:14 +0200 Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who said that the whole project will be in C ??? Only you ! What will be in C/C++ : DBUS bindings and GUI modules for GTK/QT And the protocol backend (libmsn), and the connection manager for MSN. That means

Re: [Amsn-devel] TCL or Python in aMSN2 (Pros and Cons)

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
help this one instead if that language is picked. On 8/19/06, Philippe Khalaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I reread all posts about this, and here is what I got : Quick summary of what was said until now. -- TCL PROS in aMSN2 -- - No need for anyone to learn any new

Re: [Amsn-devel] TCL or Python in aMSN2 (Pros and Cons)

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, - faster development than TCL or most any other languages Any motivation for that? http://edok01.tib.uni-hannover.de/edoks/e001/327614196.pdf This is a phd thesis, from this document we can see that: - Python is faster than TCL (figure 1, 2, 4, 6) - Python uses less memory (figure 8) -

Re: [Amsn-devel] TCL or Python in aMSN2 (Pros and Cons)

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:18:11 +0200 Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op zondag 20 augustus 2006 18:05, schreef Philippe Khalaf: On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:30:46 -0400 Madd Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean python cons where you say TCL cons at one point. Having learned python

Re: [Amsn-devel] TCL or Python in aMSN2 (Pros and Cons)

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 12:05:33PM -0400, Philippe Khalaf wrote: On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:30:46 -0400 Madd Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean python cons where you say TCL cons at one point. Having learned python, you get used to the indentation very fast. I wouldn't list

Re: [Amsn-devel] TCL or Python in aMSN2 (Pros and Cons)

2006-08-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:41:22 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Youness Alaoui) wrote: Ok, is there any 'python like' language which allows for a 'normal' syntax? :P hehe, anyways, as I said in my previous mail, we should compare with other languages too, and as I said, since almost all modules (or was

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:50:37 -0400 Philippe Khalaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: still work on aMSN1. Added avantage is easy porting to another toolkit. If someone decides he wants a GTK+ aMSN2, he can fork the Python core and write his own UI. s/GTK+/QT Regards, Philippe Regards, Philippe

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:37:45 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Youness Alaoui) wrote: AFAIK there are some tools that automatically generate C code for binding any function from a C library, this can be used in order to quickly generate the bindings... What tools? They will generate bindings for TCL

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
: On 8/19/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 03:48:06AM +0200, Ole Andr? Vadla Ravn?s wrote: On 8/19/06, Philippe Khalaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:21:15 +0200 Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Finally

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
: On 8/19/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 03:48:06AM +0200, Ole Andr? Vadla Ravn?s wrote: On 8/19/06, Philippe Khalaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:21:15 +0200 Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Finally

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:20:22 +0200 Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You get the principle but I would like to do something better than using callbacks for events... Or at least use an event layer between GUI and proc that do the things... I think XML2GUI should be a

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-18 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:21:15 +0200 Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Finally I found some time to document some of my ideas in more detail. The result is this new draft. Quite a lot changed since the previous one, and it will change again in the next drafts (at least on those

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 - Second design draft

2006-08-18 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:37:45 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Youness Alaoui) wrote: AFAIK there are some tools that automatically generate C code for binding any function from a C library, this can be used in order to quickly generate the bindings... What tools? They will generate bindings for TCL

Re: [Amsn-devel] Dutch Summer of Code

2006-06-20 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:11:56 +0200 Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Roelof, Welcome to the team! I am also working hard on amsn2, be it quietly at the moment. I am mainly focussing at the GUI framework. Currently I am working on a design (and some PoC implementation, which

Re: [Amsn-devel] Dutch Summer of Code

2006-06-19 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:11:56 +0200 Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Roelof, Welcome to the team! I am also working hard on amsn2, be it quietly at the moment. I am mainly focussing at the GUI framework. Currently I am working on a design (and some PoC implementation, which

Re: [Amsn-devel] (no subject)

2006-06-05 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Only on amsn-devel would such an email generate such a long thread... Laterz, Burger On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 20:23:19 +0200 Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op vrijdag 2 juni 2006 20:11, schreef Youness Alaoui: lol, come on, people don't know what an automated message is ? they relaly

Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN2 and Telepathy

2006-06-05 Thread Philippe Khalaf
, 24 May 2006 20:32:10 -0400 Philippe Khalaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have been reading the mailing list and I gather that people are getting rather bored. But the main problem is that everyone seems to be busy. In any case, I have sent a similar email before but I am doing it again

Re: [Amsn-devel] stats anyone ?

2006-06-02 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hey, Those are OK but if you want real SVN stats there is only one way :P http://ehr.gplmedicine.org/index.php/Chart_SVN,_SVK_and_ViewVC But you need to be motivated to do it. Regards, Philippe On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:52:59 -0400 Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey, look at what SVN

Re: [Amsn-devel] programmeerzomer.nl project proposals

2006-06-02 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, Python - faster developpement time C/Glib - better performance Writing it in C/Glib means it will run nearly everywhere (embedded device or not). In Python it will run much slower. The D-Bus bindings are better on Python than GLib, but they are good enough on GLib that we wrote a whole xmpp

[Amsn-devel] aMSN2 and Telepathy

2006-05-24 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, I have been reading the mailing list and I gather that people are getting rather bored. But the main problem is that everyone seems to be busy. In any case, I have sent a similar email before but I am doing it again. Now Telepathy is at a different stage of it's life. It's actually working

Re: [Amsn-devel] Rewrite msncam.tcl

2006-05-01 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:44:19 -0400 Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we connect to the reflector and get the information from there and send it to farsight (yes, done in the beggining, just as MSN does) we then ask farsight to 'prepare_transports', once they are ready (known through

Re: [Amsn-devel] Rewrite msncam.tcl

2006-05-01 Thread Philippe Khalaf
On Mon, 01 May 2006 14:42:29 -0400 Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 01 May 2006 13:37:04 -0400, Philippe Khalaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:44:19 -0400 Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we connect to the reflector and get the information from

Re: [Amsn-devel] farsight

2006-03-24 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, I had already written the tcl wrapper for msn webcam. Since I used Farsight for testing the old msn webcam plugin. Problem is the msn webcam plugin has never been update to the new farsight API therefore it wouldn't work with the new core. Now, I wonder where that wrapper is (it was pretty

Re: [Amsn-devel] Interview

2006-03-11 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hey, I heard the interview :) Pretty cool didn't know about it. Who was the first person on that interview? Laterz, Burger On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:01:25 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Youness Alaoui) wrote: You traitor!!! :( On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 02:38:57PM +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:

Re: [Amsn-devel] Interview

2006-03-10 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hey, I heard the interview :) Pretty cool didn't know about it. Who was the first person on that interview? Laterz, Burger On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:01:25 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Youness Alaoui) wrote: You traitor!!! :( On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 02:38:57PM +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:

Re: [Amsn-devel] OT : Fwd: des caricatures représen tant le Prophète Mohamed salla ALLAH alih wa sallam

2006-02-07 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hey, I didn't want to get into this, but it's hard to resist :P In my opinion, Muslims have done exactly what they shouldn't have done. I am Christian by birth, don't believe in religion, and most of my friend are Muslim, even though I sound harsh, I hope Muslim readers don't take this in an

Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] OT : Fwd: des caricatures représentant le Prophète Mohamed salla ALLAH alih wa sallam

2006-02-07 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, Be careful with what you say, you just shocked me ! You say I quote : 200 are killed by Bush and Jews. Israël is Jude but Jews aren't Israël there are many Jews in other places of the world and they don't ask anything to anybody ! Well obviously he meant Israelis, and all Israelis are

Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-devel] OT : Fwd: des caricatures représentant le Prophète Mohamed salla ALLAH alih wa sallam

2006-02-07 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hi, Both Arieh and Youness have turned this into a personal issue. Arieh, you crossed the line. Youness apologized for his comment and he just talked fast and didn't notice. I also replied to his comments. There was no need to keep up on the issue, as he explained exactly what he meant. He was

[Amsn-devel] congrats 0.95

2005-12-26 Thread Philippe Khalaf
Hey guys, I would like to congratulate everyone on the 0.95 release. It was a good effort and combined with the new website gives it all a new fresh look. Laterz, Burger --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through