Hey,
You have the right to have your opinion...
And if it loads really fast it could be interesting...
I will see maybe for E17
Phil
Le Sunday 26 March 2006 22:11, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
Hehe, because of many many reasons :
1 - I don't like the 'start menu, task bar, icon bar' kind of desktop
I vote for enlightenment.. and more specifically, the WM-to-come E17!! :D
KKRT
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:40:08 -0500, Le Philousophe - Phil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And one more troll :p
Anyway, I use KDE because it let me do things I wasn't able to do in
Gnome...
World map in desktop
I think this whole discussion is useless, this is what I think :
rpm/deb/whatever binary package SHOULD include tkdnd, as well as tls 1.5
source package should be compiled, so a warning should be issued inside
the ./configure!
there you go, warning is done, and everyone is happy.. no ?
KKRT
Hi,
only because I am curious, why did you choose enlightment ?
Phil
Le Sunday 26 March 2006 21:38, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
I vote for enlightenment.. and more specifically, the WM-to-come E17!! :D
KKRT
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:40:08 -0500, Le Philousophe - Phil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hehe, because of many many reasons :
1 - I don't like the 'start menu, task bar, icon bar' kind of desktop
2 - enlightenment is SO fast
3 - SOOO customizable
4 - I like the way it works, with the flipping edges
5 - fast and efficient, no eye candy, so no huge, 3d, whatever shit, title
bars or
On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 14:40 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
I think this whole discussion is useless, this is what I think :
rpm/deb/whatever binary package SHOULD include tkdnd, as well as tls 1.5
source package should be compiled, so a warning should be issued inside
the ./configure!
there
hehe, what I meant by 'will be shipped in the binary' only meant that the
user installing amsn using the binary package will get tkdnd, if it's
there as a dependency, I don't care, if it's inside the package (for
autopackage or bitrock or whatever), I don't care also, as long as we are
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 23:56 +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
I tried Drag and Drop on Linux, works fine, other people tried it on
Windows, works fine too! :) Just you need to have tkdnd installed (Maybe
add a warning to the user, and a custom path for it in Preferences -
Others?)
A warning,
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, Sander Hoentjen wrote:
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 23:56 +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
I tried Drag and Drop on Linux, works fine, other people tried it on
Windows, works fine too! :) Just you need to have tkdnd installed (Maybe
add a warning to the user, and a custom
On Friday 24 March 2006 13:56, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
I tried Drag and Drop on Linux, works fine, other people tried it on
Windows, works fine too! :) Just you need to have tkdnd installed (Maybe
add a warning to the user, and a custom path for it in Preferences -
Others?)
It's just not
This indeed is a problem. If you are using the desktop integration
plugin with KDE (maybe GNOME too), the fileselector can return different
protocols depending where the file is. Of course Tcl won't be able to
open the files. So what we could so is check, is the first a /? If yes
Op za, 25-03-2006 te 19:13 +0200, schreef Vivia Nikolaidou:
This indeed is a problem. If you are using the desktop integration
plugin with KDE (maybe GNOME too), the fileselector can return different
protocols depending where the file is. Of course Tcl won't be able to
open the files.
Op zaterdag 25 maart 2006 18:38, schreef Karel Demeyer:
Op za, 25-03-2006 te 19:13 +0200, schreef Vivia Nikolaidou:
This indeed is a problem. If you are using the desktop integration
plugin with KDE (maybe GNOME too), the fileselector can return
different protocols depending where the
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, Karel Demeyer wrote:
I have tried with Konqueror and Krusader and they seem OK - almost. I
have eneabled to show device icons on desktop, for quick access. If I
drag and drop from one of them, it returns something like
media:/hdc1/filename.txt . This *is* within
Op zaterdag 25 maart 2006 18:43, schreef Vivia Nikolaidou:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, Karel Demeyer wrote:
I have tried with Konqueror and Krusader and they seem OK - almost. I
have eneabled to show device icons on desktop, for quick access. If I
drag and drop from one of them, it returns
And one more troll :p
Anyway, I use KDE because it let me do things I wasn't able to do in Gnome...
World map in desktop backround is so useful ;)
Phil
P.S. I transform the topic in a poll :d
Le Saturday 25 March 2006 18:49, Harry Vennik a écrit :
Op zaterdag 25 maart 2006 18:43, schreef Vivia
Hi,
Only a little notice : you should use the FC standard naming isn't it ?
I mean tcltls-1.5.0-2.fc*.i386.rpm
Phil
Le Saturday 25 March 2006 10:25, Sander Hoentjen a écrit :
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 23:56 +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
I tried Drag and Drop on Linux, works fine, other people
once it is included in extras it will have that naming automatically.
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 20:41 +0100, Le Philousophe - Phil wrote:
Hi,
Only a little notice : you should use the FC standard naming isn't it ?
I mean tcltls-1.5.0-2.fc*.i386.rpm
Phil
Le Saturday 25 March 2006 10:25, Sander
I tried Drag and Drop on Linux, works fine, other people tried it on
Windows, works fine too! :) Just you need to have tkdnd installed (Maybe
add a warning to the user, and a custom path for it in Preferences -
Others?)
It's just not perfect, as Karel also noticed:
20:36 scapor vivia: I saw
http://www.autom.teithe.gr/~vivia/dragndrop.zip
I fixed the two bugs I knew : special characters work OK, and it also gets
the correct tab now.
Now this thing has to be moved into the core, and I'm kindly letting
someone else do this, because I'm afraid I will totally mess it up :) (Of
Thanks vivia, blablabla, I already thanked you over MSN.. anyways, going
straight to the point..
NO WAY you put tkdnd sources in utils/.. that's for aMSN sources, not anything
we use.. amsn will depend on tkdnd
(which I don't like that much) but the user will have to get it all by himself!
p.s.: if you still don't know why we shouldn't put tkdnd sources in CVS, let me
ask you this :
Why don't we include Tcl/Tk's sources in CVS ?
KKRT
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 01:55:08AM +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
http://www.autom.teithe.gr/~vivia/dragndrop.zip
I fixed the two bugs I knew
I though we already discussed this..
the question would be what's in there for us if we leave it as a plugin ?..
nothing, so put in the core + it's a 'core feature'
so we shouldn't put it as a plugin...
KaKaRoTo
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 03:03:53PM +0100, Karel Demeyer wrote:
I'd like to
Hi i have tested DND plugin under 0.95 with latest cvs snapshot on
winxp, i had 2 open chat windows(ie with A and B), i tried to send a
file to contact A by draging and droping t he file, it was sent to B.
i tried t hat many times
Am i only having this issue ?
Thanks
On 2/7/06, Jأ(c)rأ´me
code from plugin still has to be integrated into amsn...
added to [TODO]
+ Sam's bug, added to [FIXME]
Thanks for reporting.
KKRT
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:13:20 -0500, Sam Abou Sawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi i have tested DND plugin under 0.95 with latest cvs snapshot on
winxp, i had 2
Hehe,
fantasm or reality ???
I found some docs about Drag and Drop under Mac :
http://developer.apple.com/dev/techsupport/develop.mactech/issue_16/066-075_Evans_Robbins.html
http://www.mactech.com/macintosh-c/chap23-2.html
If someones with a Mac wants to deep into that it doesn't seem to be too
great found Phil,
good luck!
KKRT
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:37:39 -0500, Le Philousophe - Phil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hehe,
fantasm or reality ???
I found some docs about Drag and Drop under Mac :
http://developer.apple.com/dev/techsupport/develop.mactech/issue_16/066-075_Evans_Robbins.html
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:43:04 -0500, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Op vr, 03-02-2006 te 15:18 -0500, schreef Youness Alaoui:
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:03:51 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a main GUI thing. It can be used all over the gui of amsn.
To
Op vr, 03-02-2006 te 02:10 +0100, schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Okay, I have changed the proc HandleFileDrop and added text drag'n'drop (when
text is dropped to the window, it is added at the end of the input
conversation)
I have uploaded it here:
I'm responding myself to say that I have made a test on Linux and it works with
the changes I have made yesterday
MeV
Selon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Okay, I have changed the proc HandleFileDrop and added text drag'n'drop (when
text is dropped to the window, it is added at the end of the input
I have uploaded it here:
http://chrystalyst.free.fr/draganddrop/dragndrop-0.1.2.zip
I can't seem to open this zip-file.
Same here (output below). The dragndrop.png file is not correctly
compressed. I had the same yesterday and eventually replaced it with
another png. :D
Also: I agree
On Friday 03 February 2006 07:32, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
I have uploaded it here:
http://chrystalyst.free.fr/draganddrop/dragndrop-0.1.2.zip
I can't seem to open this zip-file.
Same here (output below). The dragndrop.png file is not correctly
compressed. I had the same yesterday and
Op vr, 03-02-2006 te 08:38 -0800, schreef Karol Krizka:
On Friday 03 February 2006 07:32, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
I have uploaded it here:
http://chrystalyst.free.fr/draganddrop/dragndrop-0.1.2.zip
I can't seem to open this zip-file.
Same here (output below). The dragndrop.png
Don't forget it's not platform-independant so it shouldn't be included too deep in the code.Le 3 février 2006 à 11:55, Karel Demeyer a écrit :This is a main GUI thing. It can be used all over the gui of amsn. Todrop files, contacts, text, to organise contacts in your list, to dragcontacts to a
I think DnD support is typical core functionality. Every app is supposed to
support it, so in fact it should have been there already. I think we should
not do a DnD plugin at all. Just move that stuff into the core.
Op vrijdag 3 februari 2006 17:38, schreef Karol Krizka:
On Friday 03 February
This is a main GUI thing. It can be used all over the gui of amsn. To
drop files, contacts, text, to organise contacts in your list, to drag
contacts to a convo for a groupconvo .. to drag an image to hte place
where your DP is to put it as a new dp etc ... I really think this
*should*
Don't say something I didn't say...this is just impossible on Mac,
it's nothing related to I don't want to, I want it, but we can't.
Le 3 février 2006 à 12:04, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit :
Don't forget it's not platform-independant so it shouldn't be
included too
deep in the code.
We can
No prob. Just check if DnD is available at startup, and if so, use it.
Op vrijdag 3 februari 2006 17:50, schreef Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer:
Don't forget it's not platform-independant so it shouldn't be
included too deep in the code.
Le 3 février 2006 à 11:55, Karel Demeyer a écrit :
This is a
Yes I know. But what I mean is it shouldn't be too be deep in the
core. If you add DnD to Display picture, chatwindow, drag contacts to
a convo for a groupconvo, drop files, drop text, etc...it's a lot of
place in the code. So the code should be modular so we don't need to
add if aqua in
We could create a non-functioning extention for mac that registers the
same commands hbut doesn't do anything so it works without havin g to
fiddle in amsn's code ;)
Op vr, 03-02-2006 te 12:10 -0500, schreef Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer:
Yes I know. But what I mean is it shouldn't be too be deep in
It's not my idea, I just copied from a site... but anyway, yeah I guess
it's a good idea :)
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Harry Vennik wrote:
Merge this with Vivia's idea, and you will have a dummy tkDnD for Mac
evolving into a real one over time.
Op vrijdag 3 februari 2006 19:10, schreef Karel
Thank you!!!
I've been reading the thread, every second telling myself I should wait
and read more before I answer with the exact same answer you just gave!
so Thanks Harry for being so bright ! :D
KKRT
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:46:07 -0500, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I think DnD
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:55:02 -0500, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Op vr, 03-02-2006 te 08:38 -0800, schreef Karol Krizka:
On Friday 03 February 2006 07:32, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
I have uploaded it here:
http://chrystalyst.free.fr/draganddrop/dragndrop-0.1.2.zip
I can't
great.. you're 100% right.. I'd say wrap the dnd procs, like :
proc add_dnd_source { w } {
if { not_mac... } {
::tkdnd::addsource ..
}
}
or whatever...
KKRT
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:10:44 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes I know. But what I mean is it shouldn't be too
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:22:30 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 03 February 2006 09:10, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:
Yes I know. But what I mean is it shouldn't be too be deep in the
core. If you add DnD to Display picture, chatwindow, drag contacts to
a convo for a
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:38:54 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 03 February 2006 07:32, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
I have uploaded it here:
http://chrystalyst.free.fr/draganddrop/dragndrop-0.1.2.zip
I can't seem to open this zip-file.
Same here (output below). The
well, it wouldn't be the first thing working on some platforms but not mac
(winflash for example) but still be in the core
KKRT
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:50:35 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't forget it's not platform-independant so it shouldn't be
included too deep
May be I'm not repeating myself enough...Anyway think what you want
to think and enjoy your fantasm :D
Le 3 février 2006 à 13:28, Le Philousophe - Phil a écrit :
Hehe,
I was sure of that : Drag'n'Drop works under Mac... Tk accepts
extensions so
it must be possible to complete tkDND. So bad
Op vr, 03-02-2006 te 15:15 -0500, schreef Youness Alaoui:
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:55:02 -0500, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Op vr, 03-02-2006 te 08:38 -0800, schreef Karol Krizka:
On Friday 03 February 2006 07:32, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
I have uploaded it here:
hehe, no worries Jerome...
we're not saying you didn't know or lied.. yes we do know and agree that
there is no dnd alternative for tk on Mac.. that is true.. but also, we
CAN do dnd in C code and what Phil means is that he would write it
himself.. just like there was no altenative for
Hello,
I have writed a plugin for sending files dropped in a aMSN conversation window
(in the input text more precisely)
It should works on Windows and all UNIX based OS but not Mac OS because it uses
a library called tkdnd
(http://www.iit.demokritos.gr/~petasis/Tcl/tkDND/tkDND.html) which is
Okay, I have changed the proc HandleFileDrop and added text drag'n'drop (when
text is dropped to the window, it is added at the end of the input
conversation)
I have uploaded it here:
http://chrystalyst.free.fr/draganddrop/dragndrop-0.1.2.zip
I've included tkdnd.so which I found in the rpm
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