[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-10 Thread suzanne.alexandra
Just to mention. The reason Contacts data from social networking services isn't available to applications on the CLIQ/MOTOBLUR is due to Motorola's legal and contractual obligations with those services. On Nov 9, 11:42 am, nEx.Software email.nex.softw...@gmail.com wrote: So sorry Roman, I

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-10 Thread nEx.Software
From a developer standpoint, that's fine... But, from a user standpoint who expects a Contacts application to have all of his/her Contacts, that is another story. I understand that there are agreements that need to be adhered to and that isn't going to change, but I'm sure you can understand how

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-10 Thread jarkman
Suzanne - I had wondered if that was the reason. But the problem is not exactly that there is data on the device that is inaccessible to third-party apps. The problem is that the accessible and inaccessible data are mixed together in the Contacts app in a way which makes it hard for users to see

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-09 Thread jarkman
Dianne - we have a couple of problems on the CLIQ. In both cases, the APIs are technically working correctly, but the resulting user experience is unfortunate, so these may not be exactly what you are asking for. But, in case you are interested: (1) The CLIQ has a lot of contact data (from

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-09 Thread nEx.Software
Another reason I don't beleive the CLIQ is a good development device: The CLIQ does not output Log.v() or Log.d() level logging via LogCat. On Nov 9, 4:39 am, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: Dianne - we have a couple of problems on the CLIQ. In both cases, the APIs are technically working

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-09 Thread Sundog
Yeah, that could be a problem... thanks. On Nov 9, 8:20 am, nEx.Software email.nex.softw...@gmail.com wrote: Another reason I don't beleive the CLIQ is a good development device: The CLIQ does not output Log.v() or Log.d() level logging via LogCat. -- You received this message because you are

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-09 Thread Fred Grott(Android Expert, http://mobilebytes.wordpress.com)
ah that is suppose to be that way use setprops via adb On Nov 9, 9:20 am, nEx.Software email.nex.softw...@gmail.com wrote: Another reason I don't beleive the CLIQ is a good development device: The CLIQ does not output Log.v() or Log.d() level logging via LogCat. On Nov 9, 4:39 am, jarkman

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-09 Thread nEx.Software
Not sure what you mean Fred, can you elaborate? On Nov 9, 8:45 am, Fred Grott(Android Expert, http://mobilebytes.wordpress.com) fred.gr...@gmail.com wrote: ah that is suppose to be that way use setprops via adb On Nov 9, 9:20 am, nEx.Software email.nex.softw...@gmail.com wrote: Another

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-09 Thread Roman ( T-Mobile USA)
Hey, the page www.androidhallofshame.com is still not up -- Roman Baumgaertner Sr. SW Engineer-OSDC ·T· · ·Mobile· stick together The views, opinions and statements in this email are those of the author solely in their individual capacity, and do not necessarily represent those of T-Mobile

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-09 Thread nEx.Software
So sorry Roman, I must've forgotten. I've gone ahead and registered it. Please feel free to forward to me Names and Pictures of those to include. ;) On Nov 9, 11:58 am, Roman ( T-Mobile USA) roman.baumgaert...@t- mobile.com wrote: Hey, the pagewww.androidhallofshame.comis still not up --

Re: [android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-08 Thread Jonas Petersson
nEx.Software wrote: You know, actually, come to think of it... It might only be those evil non-public apis that we all know not to use but still do anyway... I'll have to look and see if anything I have seen was a public api. I know that working with the Contacts is incredibly frustrating, but

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-07 Thread JacobGladish
All I want is a phone for testing. Can anyone suggest a good option. Is the dev phone the way to go? On Nov 6, 11:33 pm, nEx.Software email.nex.softw...@gmail.com wrote: The CLIQ has 1.5 loaded, and it is NOT a good development phone. Trust me. On Nov 6, 8:55 pm, JacobGladish

Re: [android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-07 Thread Mark Murphy
JacobGladish wrote: All I want is a phone for testing. Can anyone suggest a good option. The only devices that have 1.6 that I can think of are the T-Mobile G1 (if the device has the OTA upgrade), the HTC Tattoo (not sold in the US but is available on eBay), and the Google Ion (see below). The

Re: [android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-07 Thread Dianne Hackborn
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 8:33 PM, nEx.Software email.nex.softw...@gmail.comwrote: The CLIQ has 1.5 loaded, and it is NOT a good development phone. Trust me. What is wrong with it? Fwiw, one of our goals is that all Android compatible phones should also allow for the full standard development

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-07 Thread nEx.Software
The CLIQ is not representative of a normal Android experience. It is buggy, half of the components have been replaced by Motorola. They use their own variants of some APIs. And, I certainly would not recommend it as a user device, personally. As a user of the CLIQ I have been very, very

Re: [android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-07 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Can you give more detail? The APIs should work the same. If there are changes, we'd really like to know. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:51 AM, nEx.Software email.nex.softw...@gmail.comwrote: The CLIQ is not representative of a normal Android experience. It is buggy, half of the components have

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-07 Thread nEx.Software
You know, actually, come to think of it... It might only be those evil non-public apis that we all know not to use but still do anyway... I'll have to look and see if anything I have seen was a public api. I know that working with the Contacts is incredibly frustrating, but that is probably

Re: [android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-07 Thread Romain Guy
I want a www.androidhallofshame.com with the picture and name of all developers using private APIs :) On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:25 PM, nEx.Software email.nex.softw...@gmail.com wrote: You know, actually, come to think of it... It might only be those evil non-public apis that we all know not to

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-07 Thread nEx.Software
Haha, I am totally going to snatch that one up. :) Luckily I don't personally use non-SDK APIs so I won't be on the list. On Nov 7, 2:29 pm, Romain Guy romain...@google.com wrote: I want awww.androidhallofshame.comwith the picture and name of all developers using private APIs :) On Sat, Nov

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-07 Thread RichardC
JacobGladish wrote: All I want is a phone for testing. Can anyone suggest a good option. I'm using an HTC Magic (not the Hero) as my primary development/test phone for the simple reason it has NOT been messed about with. It's about as close to a reference phone for application development I can

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-07 Thread JacobGladish
I made two trips to the local mall. First thinking t-mobile was going to sell me a phone without a plan, no luch. Being a verizon customer, I figured they they'd be kinder, but no luck. I even offered to pay full retail but they insist that you activate the phone on their network and then cancel

[android-developers] Re: motorola cliq sdk 2.0

2009-11-07 Thread joebowbeer
This appears to be one: MOTOBLUR undocumented database constraint prevents delete all contacts from working. http://community.developer.motorola.com/mtrl/board/message?board.id=Android_Developmentthread.id=170 -- Joe Bowbeer On Nov 7, 1:00 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Can you