Re: [android-developers] Is the 'back' button still kosher?

2012-11-03 Thread al
I disagree with latimerius and his aversion for the android features. Yes, android significantly changed from version 2 to 3/4 and yes, this causes significant work for developers. However, there was a reason: to expand the android way to tablets. Avoiding the platform just guarantees that your

Re: [android-developers] Is the 'back' button still kosher?

2012-11-02 Thread Keith Wiley
All right. I brought this up a few weeks ago on this list and some of the advice on the topic was to avoid menus entirely and replace them with in-app soft-menus from now on...despite the action bar. I guess that advice was incorrect. Thanks for the clarification. On Thursday, November 1,

Re: [android-developers] Is the 'back' button still kosher?

2012-11-02 Thread Mark Murphy
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Keith Wiley kbwi...@gmail.com wrote: All right. I brought this up a few weeks ago on this list and some of the advice on the topic was to avoid menus entirely and replace them with in-app soft-menus from now on...despite the action bar. I guess that advice was

Re: [android-developers] Is the 'back' button still kosher?

2012-11-02 Thread Prish goyal
On 2 Nov 2012 17:38, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Keith Wiley kbwi...@gmail.com wrote: All right. I brought this up a few weeks ago on this list and some of the advice on the topic was to avoid menus entirely and replace them with in-app

Re: [android-developers] Is the 'back' button still kosher?

2012-11-02 Thread Latimerius
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Keith Wiley kbwi...@gmail.com wrote: All right. I brought this up a few weeks ago on this list and some of the advice on the topic was to avoid menus entirely and replace them with in-app

Re: [android-developers] Is the 'back' button still kosher?

2012-11-02 Thread Keith Wiley
Thanks for coming back to my original question. So, perhaps we can all consider my situation from a higher level and discuss the possible design options we might choose from (and which options are most in the spirit of intended Android user experience). Although I have a few Android apps, the

Re: [android-developers] Is the 'back' button still kosher?

2012-11-02 Thread Latimerius
For all your secondary UI screens, it should be possible to add an on-screen back button so I'd do it. As for in-game, that's for you to decide - I haven't seen your game. If there's a place on your in-game screen where a pause button wouldn't get in the way, I'd add it. Once in the paused

[android-developers] Is the 'back' button still kosher?

2012-11-01 Thread Keith Wiley
My understanding is that modern Android best practice is to not use the system-level menu button or system-level options menu anymore since such buttons are frequently difficult to access or even absent on some devices. I have gutted all menu access from my app as a result (I admit, it is