[android-developers] Re: Force hdpi drawables on mdpi-xlarge devices
Yes Dianne, that's obvious to you and me. I didn't mean to insinuate that there is something wrong. Just wanted to clarify for people who might not know what a mipmap is. Are mipmaps used for enlarging any other parts of the UI or is it only for launcher icons? On 4 Juli, 05:42, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Yes as I said this is some initial work on doing mipmaps, and oh hey look at that if you are doing a mipmap there is a larger bitmap there that can be used if you want a larger size image. On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 2:16 PM, nadam a...@anyro.se wrote: Just tested this on my Motorola XOOM with Android 3.0.1 and it is using the icon.png from res/drawable-hdpi even though the device is mdpi. On 3 Juli, 10:05, Federico Carnales fedecarna...@gmail.com wrote: On May 23, 7:49 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Don't force the Xoom to use hdpi. You will be inconsistent with every other app, all of which are using the Xoom's correct density which is mdpi. Why do you want to do this? As I've said, Galaxy Tab made a design decision to use a larger density and thus have a blown up UI. Again use the density the device reports so you are consistent with the UI in the rest of the device. Trying to play games like this is only going to lead to pain. Use the density the device reports. Doesn't the stock Honeycomb Launcher force HDPI drawables for the app icons? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Force hdpi drawables on mdpi-xlarge devices
On May 23, 7:49 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Don't force the Xoom to use hdpi. You will be inconsistent with every other app, all of which are using the Xoom's correct density which is mdpi. Why do you want to do this? As I've said, Galaxy Tab made a design decision to use a larger density and thus have a blown up UI. Again use the density the device reports so you are consistent with the UI in the rest of the device. Trying to play games like this is only going to lead to pain. Use the density the device reports. Doesn't the stock Honeycomb launcher force HDPI drawables for the app icons? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Force hdpi drawables on mdpi-xlarge devices
On May 23, 7:49 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Don't force the Xoom to use hdpi. You will be inconsistent with every other app, all of which are using the Xoom's correct density which is mdpi. Why do you want to do this? As I've said, Galaxy Tab made a design decision to use a larger density and thus have a blown up UI. Again use the density the device reports so you are consistent with the UI in the rest of the device. Trying to play games like this is only going to lead to pain. Use the density the device reports. Doesn't the stock Honeycomb Launcher force HDPI drawables for the app icons? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Force hdpi drawables on mdpi-xlarge devices
It uses a facility that is under development in the platform to do mipmap style drawables. It isn't in any way running at hdpi; it is loading application icons to have a larger size. On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Federico Carnales fedecarna...@gmail.comwrote: On May 23, 7:49 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Don't force the Xoom to use hdpi. You will be inconsistent with every other app, all of which are using the Xoom's correct density which is mdpi. Why do you want to do this? As I've said, Galaxy Tab made a design decision to use a larger density and thus have a blown up UI. Again use the density the device reports so you are consistent with the UI in the rest of the device. Trying to play games like this is only going to lead to pain. Use the density the device reports. Doesn't the stock Honeycomb launcher force HDPI drawables for the app icons? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Force hdpi drawables on mdpi-xlarge devices
Just tested this on my Motorola XOOM with Android 3.0.1 and it is using the icon.png from res/drawable-hdpi even though the device is mdpi. On 3 Juli, 10:05, Federico Carnales fedecarna...@gmail.com wrote: On May 23, 7:49 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Don't force the Xoom to use hdpi. You will be inconsistent with every other app, all of which are using the Xoom's correct density which is mdpi. Why do you want to do this? As I've said, Galaxy Tab made a design decision to use a larger density and thus have a blown up UI. Again use the density the device reports so you are consistent with the UI in the rest of the device. Trying to play games like this is only going to lead to pain. Use the density the device reports. Doesn't the stock Honeycomb Launcher force HDPI drawables for the app icons? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Force hdpi drawables on mdpi-xlarge devices
Yes as I said this is some initial work on doing mipmaps, and oh hey look at that if you are doing a mipmap there is a larger bitmap there that can be used if you want a larger size image. On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 2:16 PM, nadam a...@anyro.se wrote: Just tested this on my Motorola XOOM with Android 3.0.1 and it is using the icon.png from res/drawable-hdpi even though the device is mdpi. On 3 Juli, 10:05, Federico Carnales fedecarna...@gmail.com wrote: On May 23, 7:49 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Don't force the Xoom to use hdpi. You will be inconsistent with every other app, all of which are using the Xoom's correct density which is mdpi. Why do you want to do this? As I've said, Galaxy Tab made a design decision to use a larger density and thus have a blown up UI. Again use the density the device reports so you are consistent with the UI in the rest of the device. Trying to play games like this is only going to lead to pain. Use the density the device reports. Doesn't the stock Honeycomb Launcher force HDPI drawables for the app icons? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Force hdpi drawables on mdpi-xlarge devices
Strange, I thought I wrote a reply here some days ago. One more try... Thanks Dianne, it's good to know that drawable-nodpi is an option for this. I promise to think twice before using it. I think it's all a matter of taste. Some people actually prefer larger images on larger devices. A good example when this makes sense is the virtual keyboard which is bigger on a tablet than on a phone. Generally, when you feel like you've had to squeeze in the interface on a phone screen, it makes sense to blow it up a bit on a tablet. Currently, to keep the images proportional and avoid pixelation, I have limited the size of my app to max 480x1024 on hdpi devices and 320x1024 on mdpi devices. I'm doing this using Display.getWidth()/ getHeight() and Window.setLayout(). It looks pretty good on the Galaxy Tab but a bit too small on the Xoom. On 27 Maj, 01:13, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:35 PM, nadam a...@anyro.se wrote: I want to do this because it's what my client tells me to do. Not my decision. They have designed the app for phone size only and want it to scale up for larger devices (or not run on larger devices at all). The app contains many specially designed images, some that should cover the whole screen and some that should fill the width of the screen (portrait mode only) while maintaining the original aspect ratio. You will need to put them all under drawable-nodpi and manually scale each image as appropriate to get this different effects you want. And again, I would very strongly discourage this. You are setting yourself up for pain. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Force hdpi drawables on mdpi-xlarge devices
I want to do this because it's what my client tells me to do. Not my decision. They have designed the app for phone size only and want it to scale up for larger devices (or not run on larger devices at all). The app contains many specially designed images, some that should cover the whole screen and some that should fill the width of the screen (portrait mode only) while maintaining the original aspect ratio. On 24 Maj, 00:49, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Don't force the Xoom to use hdpi. You will be inconsistent with every other app, all of which are using the Xoom's correct density which is mdpi. Why do you want to do this? As I've said, Galaxy Tab made a design decision to use a larger density and thus have a blown up UI. Again use the density the device reports so you are consistent with the UI in the rest of the device. Trying to play games like this is only going to lead to pain. Use the density the device reports. On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:37 PM, nadam a...@anyro.se wrote: Samsung decided to make it's mdpi-device Galaxy Tab use hdpi drawables simply because it looks better. Motorola decided to stick to mdpi on the Xoom. This is probably the core of the issues people have with making their apps look good on tablets. I know there are ways to make it right which possibly work for ~95% of all apps. Then we have the ~5% apps where it makes more sense to have larger drawables on larger screens. Is there any way to force the Xoom (and similar devices) to use the hdpi drawables or even xhdpi? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Force hdpi drawables on mdpi-xlarge devices
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:35 PM, nadam a...@anyro.se wrote: I want to do this because it's what my client tells me to do. Not my decision. They have designed the app for phone size only and want it to scale up for larger devices (or not run on larger devices at all). The app contains many specially designed images, some that should cover the whole screen and some that should fill the width of the screen (portrait mode only) while maintaining the original aspect ratio. You will need to put them all under drawable-nodpi and manually scale each image as appropriate to get this different effects you want. And again, I would very strongly discourage this. You are setting yourself up for pain. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Force hdpi drawables on mdpi-xlarge devices
I would just use a set of drawables with the largest DPI your minimum SDK version allows and let the system scale it for you. So typically, just have HDPI drawables if your minSdkVersion 8, and XHDPI drawables if your minSdkVersion = 8. You may get a slight performance improvement if you provide all the various DPI drawables, but not only a the size of your APK will increase, but it also becomes an ongoing maintanence concern. On May 23, 2:37 pm, nadam a...@anyro.se wrote: Samsung decided to make it's mdpi-device Galaxy Tab use hdpi drawables simply because it looks better. Motorola decided to stick to mdpi on the Xoom. This is probably the core of the issues people have with making their apps look good on tablets. I know there are ways to make it right which possibly work for ~95% of all apps. Then we have the ~5% apps where it makes more sense to have larger drawables on larger screens. Is there any way to force the Xoom (and similar devices) to use the hdpi drawables or even xhdpi? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
