Re: [android-developers] Educating Users

2009-12-10 Thread Steve Wilson
2009/12/9 Wayne Wenthin wa...@fuligin.com

 Has anyone got a good method to teach users that the Market is a one way 
 street and that I can't reply there.   I've tried putting that in the 
 description, wasting valuable text space, I put in in my news button on the 
 game but they still ask for help in the market and leave a low score because 
 they can't figure out how to run the game.

...

My first impression is that there's something lacking in your game which
is leading people to attempt to contact you by leaving a comment and
poor rating.
I know a few people will just try and figure things out for themselves,
but if you've got people asking the same things over again maybe it
needs to be included within the app as a help or FAQ page for users to read.
I don't think there's any way you'll be able to educate users, they want
it their way or they complain. Just look at all the complaints when
facebook refreshes the interface!

On the side of this in my week of actually being an android developer
I'm noticing a few bits lacking from the developer home page for
applications. I'm pretty sure the data is available but not for us.
Things I think are missing are:

ability to see and respond to users comments
what platform/os the application has been installed on
( Why develop for 1.1 if everyone's  1.6 and you
  want a 1.5 feature? )
install/upgrade stats + graphs.

I know this isn't the place to ask for these and maybe there's plans but
that's my thoughts so far.

Maybe google will come to the rescue and give us access to see and reply
to comments so we don't have to keep looking at our apps in the
marketplace to see what comments have been made, making it look like we
don't care what our users think.

Regards

Steve.

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Re: [android-developers] Educating Users

2009-12-10 Thread Wayne Wenthin
I would get defensive but I just don't roll that way.   In the description
on the market it a blatant statement that they should contact me at my
support email or join the forums.   On the first page of the game is a great
big INSTRUCTIONS button that they can miss.  In there are about 7 pages of
instructions complete with graphics.   Below that is a News button that I
added that I can update quickly with breaking issues.   It is clearly marked
BETA in almost every way possible short of a watermark across all of the
game.I guess I'm making a veiled complaint against the market and it
lack of useful interaction with users.The previous suggestions were good
and I will probably work out a rolling Hint system for users and a way to
turn it off because I'm sure it would get annoying after awhile.

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Steve Wilson st...@swsystem.co.uk wrote:

 2009/12/9 Wayne Wenthin wa...@fuligin.com
 
  Has anyone got a good method to teach users that the Market is a one way
 street and that I can't reply there.   I've tried putting that in the
 description, wasting valuable text space, I put in in my news button on the
 game but they still ask for help in the market and leave a low score because
 they can't figure out how to run the game.

 ...

 My first impression is that there's something lacking in your game which
 is leading people to attempt to contact you by leaving a comment and
 poor rating.
 I know a few people will just try and figure things out for themselves,
 but if you've got people asking the same things over again maybe it
 needs to be included within the app as a help or FAQ page for users to
 read.
 I don't think there's any way you'll be able to educate users, they want
 it their way or they complain. Just look at all the complaints when
 facebook refreshes the interface!

 On the side of this in my week of actually being an android developer
 I'm noticing a few bits lacking from the developer home page for
 applications. I'm pretty sure the data is available but not for us.
 Things I think are missing are:

ability to see and respond to users comments
what platform/os the application has been installed on
( Why develop for 1.1 if everyone's  1.6 and you
  want a 1.5 feature? )
install/upgrade stats + graphs.

 I know this isn't the place to ask for these and maybe there's plans but
 that's my thoughts so far.

 Maybe google will come to the rescue and give us access to see and reply
 to comments so we don't have to keep looking at our apps in the
 marketplace to see what comments have been made, making it look like we
 don't care what our users think.

 Regards

 Steve.

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[android-developers] Educating Users

2009-12-09 Thread Wayne Wenthin
Has anyone got a good method to teach users that the Market is a one way
street and that I can't reply there.   I've tried putting that in the
description, wasting valuable text space, I put in in my news button on the
game but they still ask for help in the market and leave a low score because
they can't figure out how to run the game.

Thanks,
Wayne

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[android-developers] Educating users - this isn't an iphone!

2009-10-01 Thread niko20

I have a music app for android that works really well, and I've tried
to model the app after other iphone music apps that I have seen.

However, the problem is that I get emails from users about can it do
like this app on the iphone, so then I try to write them an email
back saying, yes, I'm trying to use some of those iphone apps as
models, but this phone is not going to be able to do as powerful of an
app as the iphone. For example, only 16MB heap space, and also limited
CPU speed due to the interpreted java (not THAT slow, but still slow
for real time audio stuff with lots of data).

Also there are some features that users seem to want that are simply
impossible, such as music apps with multitouch. Well the phone doesn't
support/expose that to development, so that can never be done right
now.

How can we as devs help to educate the user base in some way so they
realize that this phone isn't an iphone, but has other features that
are still beneficial? (Other than emailing them about it)

The worst thing is getting a rating/comment that says wish it did
like app XXX on the iphone...lol well sorry but that really can't
happen, not enough CPU/memory...

Of course I also realize that we probably just have to put up with the
comparisons, just the way it goes :) Everybody is going to compare it
to the iphone.

-niko
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