Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-12-05 Thread Fries, Steffen
Michael Richardson wrote: > > Besides this, we see further use cases, in which the connection to the > PKI is > > not always available. This may be the case if the connection to the CA > is only > > temporary available or not directly available. Here, the approach would > require

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-12-02 Thread Michael Richardson
Fries, Steffen wrote: > Besides this, we see further use cases, in which the connection to the PKI is > not always available. This may be the case if the connection to the CA is only > temporary available or not directly available. Here, the approach would require > a rather

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-12-02 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2018-12-03 06:44, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > Indeed not. My suggestion creates no new protocol and doesn't change > anything > > for the registrar, proxy, and pledge. It recycles the registrar-MASA > protocol > > as the registrar-OASA protocol.

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-12-02 Thread Michael Richardson
Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Indeed not. My suggestion creates no new protocol and doesn't change anything > for the registrar, proxy, and pledge. It recycles the registrar-MASA protocol > as the registrar-OASA protocol. And presumably it also recycles the registrar-MASA >

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-12-02 Thread Michael Richardson
Brian E Carpenter wrote: > OK, thanks. I'm interested in another scenario too: one where the > operator will not accept using a connection to the open Internet and > therefore will not accept any real-time access to any MASA. As I've > said for several years, this is a highly

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-28 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2018-11-29 00:26, Fries, Steffen wrote: > Hi Brian, >>> [stf] Agreed. Although I’m not sure if store and forward could be solely a >>> functionality of the domain registrar and not necessarily a >> new component. >>> Getting back to my original question, do you see the asynchronous handling

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-27 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2018-11-28 02:11, Eliot Lear wrote: > Hi Steffen > >> On 27 Nov 2018, at 11:49, Fries, Steffen wrote: >> >> Getting back to my original question, do you see the asynchronous handling >> of pledge enrolment as part of the current charter of the working group? > > I don’t know (I'll leave the

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-27 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2018-11-28 00:49, Fries, Steffen wrote: > Hi Eliot ... >>> OK, thanks. I'm interested in another scenario too: one where the operator >>> will not accept using a connection to the open Internet and therefore will >>> not accept any real-time access to any MASA. As I've said for several >>>

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-27 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Hi Eliot, On 2018-11-27 23:04, Eliot Lear wrote: > > >> OK, thanks. I'm interested in another scenario too: one where the operator >> will not accept using a connection to the open Internet and therefore will >> not accept any real-time access to any MASA. As I've said for several years, >>

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-27 Thread Fries, Steffen
Hi Eliot On 27 Nov 2018, at 11:49, Fries, Steffen mailto:steffen.fr...@siemens.com>> wrote: Getting back to my original question, do you see the asynchronous handling of pledge enrolment as part of the current charter of the working group? I don’t know (I'll leave the to the chairs). Assuming

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-27 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Steffen > On 27 Nov 2018, at 11:49, Fries, Steffen wrote: > > Getting back to my original question, do you see the asynchronous handling of > pledge enrolment as part of the current charter of the working group? I don’t know (I'll leave the to the chairs). Assuming yes: > If yes, would

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-27 Thread Fries, Steffen
Hi Eliot OK, thanks. I'm interested in another scenario too: one where the operator will not accept using a connection to the open Internet and therefore will not accept any real-time access to any MASA. As I've said for several years, this is a highly likely scenario in some types of network

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-27 Thread Eliot Lear
> OK, thanks. I'm interested in another scenario too: one where the operator > will not accept using a connection to the open Internet and therefore will > not accept any real-time access to any MASA. As I've said for several years, > this is a highly likely scenario in some types of network

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-26 Thread Fries, Steffen
Hi Brian -Original Message- From: Brian E Carpenter Sent: Sonntag, 25. November 2018 20:22 To: Eliot Lear ; Fries, Steffen (CT RDA ITS) Cc: anima@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing On 2018-11-26 02:09, Eliot Lear wrote: > Hi Stef

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-26 Thread Fries, Steffen
Hi Eliot I assumed it to be collocates with the RA and that the CA is separate. Ok, well there we have it ;-) I should have been more specific. I was referring to the EST request. The BRSKI request regarding the voucher is assumed to a proxy residing inside the plant. I assumed a strong

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-25 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2018-11-26 02:09, Eliot Lear wrote: > Hi Steffen > > >> On 23 Nov 2018, at 20:27, Fries, Steffen wrote: >> >> Hi Eliot >> We are currently in the process of discussing different scenarios and approaches for the onboarding of (IoT) devices in plants, substations, or

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-25 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Steffen > On 23 Nov 2018, at 20:27, Fries, Steffen wrote: > > Hi Eliot > >>> We are currently in the process of discussing different scenarios and >>> approaches for the onboarding of (IoT) devices in plants, substations, or >>> cloud-based services. The current BRSKI document provides

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-23 Thread Fries, Steffen
Hi Eliot We are currently in the process of discussing different scenarios and approaches for the onboarding of (IoT) devices in plants, substations, or cloud-based services. The current BRSKI document provides here a good approach to address the case in which a pledge has an online connection

Re: [Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-23 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Steffen > On 23 Nov 2018, at 17:53, Fries, Steffen wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > We are currently in the process of discussing different scenarios and > approaches for the onboarding of (IoT) devices in plants, substations, or > cloud-based services. The current BRSKI document provides here

[Anima] BRSKI support for asynchronous processing

2018-11-23 Thread Fries, Steffen
Hi everyone, We are currently in the process of discussing different scenarios and approaches for the onboarding of (IoT) devices in plants, substations, or cloud-based services. The current BRSKI document provides here a good approach to address the case in which a pledge has an online