Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-11-13 Thread Tom Jackson
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Bas Scheffers b...@scheffers.net wrote: On Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:30pm, Dave Bauer d...@thedesignexperience.org said: Of course you can say apt-get install aolserver4 already. Of course you can, but then what? Then you still have this completely alien

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-11-02 Thread Jim Davidson
I like this approach, doesn't need to be perfect performance (PHP isn't generally) but more naturally blending the AOLserver API's and Tcl stuff into Apache seems smart in the year 2009. Question: Does anyone (really) care about Win32 now? Poking at the code today, I'm thinking

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-11-02 Thread Andrew Piskorski
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 04:32:41PM -0500, Jim Davidson wrote: Question: Does anyone (really) care about Win32 now? The cross-platformness of Tcl and AOLserver have definitely been useful to me in the past. In fact I'm still running AOLserver on Windows today, but essentially as the platform

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-11-01 Thread Tom Jackson
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Bas Scheffers b...@scheffers.net wrote: I do this for a couple of sites, Apache's mod_proxy forwards stuff to AOLserver. This is mostly where we have a scarcity of IPs. But that still means you have to jump through hoops to install it, learn how to run it in

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-11-01 Thread Bas Scheffers
On Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:30pm, Dave Bauer d...@thedesignexperience.org said: Of course you can say apt-get install aolserver4 already. Of course you can, but then what? Then you still have this completely alien server in front of you that you will need to configure. It puts people off.

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-31 Thread Bas Scheffers
I do this for a couple of sites, Apache's mod_proxy forwards stuff to AOLserver. This is mostly where we have a scarcity of IPs. But that still means you have to jump through hoops to install it, learn how to run it in production, etc. I'd love a being able to just say apt-get install

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-31 Thread Dave Bauer
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Bas Scheffers b...@scheffers.net wrote: I do this for a couple of sites, Apache's mod_proxy forwards stuff to AOLserver. This is mostly where we have a scarcity of IPs. But that still means you have to jump through hoops to install it, learn how to run it in

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-30 Thread Jim Davidson
With fancy switches and/or proxies like varnish can you effectively blend aolserver with other app servers (lamp, ruby etc) now without actual code changes ? I'm wondering if folks have done that successfully Jim Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Dossy Shiobara

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-27 Thread Bernd Eidenschink
This why all of the Apache supported languages either require the pre-fork model where they keep one interpreter per process (like PHP) or party like it's 1993 in a FastCGI environment like Ruby (on Rails) does. Yuk. Don't name the FastCGI-party-people, they are mean! Albeit there

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-27 Thread Bas Scheffers
On Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:55pm, Bernd Eidenschink eidensch...@web.de said: Even using and relying on several AOL- and Naviservers for years now I cannot get used to the technical superiority discussions... It is not about technical superiority. No matter how hard you try, AOLserver will

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-27 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 10/27/09 5:40 PM, Bas Scheffers wrote: Moving AOLserver to run inside Apache as a module would be a great step to making it more accesible and popular. This is the reason why I'd like to implement a module for AOLserver that would enable it to run as a FastCGI application under Apache

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-26 Thread Jeff Rogers
nitin chandra wrote: Thank you Everyone, After a lot of attempts i was successful in installing the AoLserver but not PyWX or for that matter any thing which will integrate with Python. Support regarding PyWX on AoL is non-existent, and key people have stopped working / supporting this combo

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-26 Thread Bas Scheffers
On Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:08am, Jeff Rogers dv...@diphi.com said: The C-python implementation has a misfeature known as the global interpreter lock (GIL) that presents scalability problems in a threaded This why all of the Apache supported languages either require the pre-fork model where

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-26 Thread Andrew Piskorski
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 03:38:30PM -0700, Jeff Rogers wrote: The C-python implementation has a misfeature known as the global interpreter lock (GIL) that presents scalability problems in a threaded Right. AOLserver is bound to tcl at a pretty deep level, and it does so very well. While

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-24 Thread Dave Bauer
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM, nitin chandra nitinchand...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, Is it necessary to install OpenACS along with AoLserver? No. OpenACS is just one application built on the AOLserver platform. Dave Nitin -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-16 Thread Tom Jackson
You have to install AOLserver if you want to run OpenACS, but AOLserver is independent of OpenACS. But you might join the OpenACS community, and/or use their resources (openacs.org), they discuss a wider range of things than we do here. tom jackson On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:04 AM, nitin

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-16 Thread nitin chandra
Thank you Tom, But somehow i am still waiting for support / guidance for installation of my AoLserver In that regard I have already requested the list twice still no response. Sub : AoLserver 4.5.1 install issue Still waiting ... Hope someone will :) Nitin On Fri, Oct 16,

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-15 Thread David Siktberg
Absolutely not! Only if you want to use OpenACS functionality. Our site started by using ACS (OpenACS's predecessor) as a foundation and a jumping-off point to learn from - we picked only the parts we needed from ACS, primarily infrastructure management (security, user registrations, shared

Re: [AOLSERVER] is it necessary

2009-10-15 Thread Don Baccus
On Oct 15, 2009, at 10:04 AM, nitin chandra wrote: Hi Everyone, Is it necessary to install OpenACS along with AoLserver? No, OpenACS is just a web toolkit that uses AOLserver, just as Django uses Apache. Don Baccus http://donb.photo.net http://birdnotes.net http://openacs.org --