Re: [apple-crop] EverCrisp

2012-11-08 Thread david_doud 
"We already have enough." "why not concentrate on raising good quality apples from the ones we have now?"We have a lot of 19th and 20th century varieties -  - HoneyCrisp has reset the bar, but is poorly adapted to my climate and from talking to growers and reading the trade papers, generally growers seem to struggle with it - twice the price and half the pack-out is less than a net wash - If EverCrisp were 'just another variety', you'd have a point - it's not - it's a genuine 21st century variety -EverCrisp will provide high brix and '21st century crunch' after being abused (set out at room temperature for extended periods) by the purchaser (and/or retailers) - Danno Simmons (originator of the EverCrisp name) made a comment after tasting a specimen 11 weeks after harvest that had never been refrigerated, saying 'it just might be Walmart proof'..."will it sell?" it'll sell - retail, I have no doubts, I am a 5th generation apple grower who goes face to face with my retail and farmer's market customers from August 1 thru Christmas - this is what the large majority ask for (sweet and crispy and stays that way, and by sweet I mean 16-18brix, a sugar bomb) I can't get these trees in production quickly enough - - it could and should be wholesale worthy, obviously it's a tough road to gain shelf space, but the (mainly) Ohio growers have about 100 acres of trees ordered (literally every bud of scionwood worth) so there should be enough production to do something with and Bill Dodd at Ohio Apple is in a position to promote it - we'll see - "can you grow it everywhere?"dunno - it's likely too long a season for Minnesota and Maine - it grows very nicely here @ 40* of latitude - it is available for the last three weekends in October at this location - it hangs and waits on you to get to it at your convenience - one picking will get it - if you're getting it done with Reds and Goldens and Idared, keep on - if you want to follow the HoneyCrisp frenzy with something that that's better for both the grower and consumer, you'd do well to consider EverCrisp - DOn Nov 08, 2012, at 03:41 PM, Tommy and Sandy  wrote:Exactly what we need a new apple variety.  We already have enough.  We don't know what to plant for our area, will it sell, can you grow it everywhere.  We have a lot of good apples now, why not concentrate on raising good quality apples from the ones we have now. Tommy BruguiereDickie Bros. Orchards- Original Message -From: david_d...@me.comTo: Apple-CropSent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:49 AMSubject: [apple-crop] EverCrispA new apple available to everyone - the first story about it is in this month's Fruit Growers News - http://fruitgrowersnews.com/index.php/news/release/19002It's excellent - David Doudgrower - Indiana___apple-crop mailing listapple-crop@virtualorchard.nethttp://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop___
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Re: [apple-crop] EverCrisp

2012-11-08 Thread Weinzierl, Richard A 
I am a university extension specialist ... and even more specialized in 
entomology.  Other than posting our newsletter I rarely express opinions on 
production issues, but this time I will ...

Why not concentrate on raising good quality apples from the ones we have now 
... and on incorporating new varieties and improvements in management for 
everything we grow?  That's what consumers ask of us, whether we grow apples, 
peaches, pumpkins, or sweet corn ... or produce a wide range of other products. 
New varieties with desirable traits are good for the industry.

Rick Weinzierl

Richard Weinzierl
Professor and Extension Entomologist
IL SARE Coordinator
Department of Crop Sciences, University of Illinois
S-334 Turner Hall, 1102 S. Goodwin Avenue
Urbana, IL 61801
217-244-2126

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[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of maurice tougas
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [apple-crop] EverCrisp

In the 31 years I've been growing and marketing apples PYO, I've never seen the 
excitement that Honeycrisp has generated with my customers. I'll take a dozen 
more if they will build on that excitement (= increase in demand). We'll plant 
EverCrisp in the hope that it may be one of the dozen.

Mo Tougas
Tougas Family Farm
Northborough, MA 01532

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Tommy and Sandy 
mailto:orcha...@ceva.net>> wrote:
Exactly what we need a new apple variety.  We already have enough.  We don't 
know what to plant for our area, will it sell, can you grow it everywhere.
We have a lot of good apples now, why not concentrate on raising good quality 
apples from the ones we have now.

Tommy Bruguiere
Dickie Bros. Orchards
- Original Message -
From: david_d...@me.com
To: Apple-Crop
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: [apple-crop] EverCrisp

A new apple available to everyone - the first story about it is in this month's 
Fruit Growers News -

http://fruitgrowersnews.com/index.php/news/release/19002

It's excellent -

David Doud
grower - Indiana

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Re: [apple-crop] EverCrisp

2012-11-08 Thread maurice tougas 
In the 31 years I've been growing and marketing apples PYO, I've never seen
the excitement that Honeycrisp has generated with my customers. I'll take a
dozen more if they will build on that excitement (= increase in demand).
We'll plant EverCrisp in the hope that it may be one of the dozen.

Mo Tougas
Tougas Family Farm
Northborough, MA 01532


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Tommy and Sandy  wrote:

> **
> Exactly what we need a new apple variety.  We already have enough.  We
> don't know what to plant for our area, will it sell, can you grow it
> everywhere.
> We have a lot of good apples now, why not concentrate on raising good
> quality apples from the ones we have now.
>
> Tommy Bruguiere
> Dickie Bros. Orchards
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* david_d...@me.com
> *To:* Apple-Crop 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:49 AM
> *Subject:* [apple-crop] EverCrisp
>
> A new apple available to everyone - the first story about it is in this
> month's Fruit Growers News -
>
> http://fruitgrowersnews.com/index.php/news/release/19002
>
> It's excellent -
>
> David Doud
> grower - Indiana
>
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Re: [apple-crop] EverCrisp

2012-11-08 Thread Tommy and Sandy 
Exactly what we need a new apple variety.  We already have enough.  We don't 
know what to plant for our area, will it sell, can you grow it everywhere.  
We have a lot of good apples now, why not concentrate on raising good quality 
apples from the ones we have now.

Tommy Bruguiere
Dickie Bros. Orchards
  - Original Message - 
  From: david_d...@me.com 
  To: Apple-Crop 
  Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:49 AM
  Subject: [apple-crop] EverCrisp


  A new apple available to everyone - the first story about it is in this 
month's Fruit Growers News - 


  http://fruitgrowersnews.com/index.php/news/release/19002


  It's excellent - 


  David Doud
  grower - Indiana


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[apple-crop] EverCrisp

2012-11-08 Thread david_doud 
A new apple available to everyone - the first story about it is in this month's Fruit Growers News - http://fruitgrowersnews.com/index.php/news/release/19002It's excellent - David Doudgrower - Indiana
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