Re: Web site maintainer
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Ian Jeffray wrote: I've also started to get the Win32 build to actually build again, using VS2010 (mostly just a little breakage in the fastmap stuff to solve in a clean way). FWIW, the Win32 build (now that you've fixed all the C99-ness) builds OK with the Express edition of VS2010. So from now on I should be able to use that to check that anything I'm doing isn't going to break building through Visual Studio. Cheers, - Jeffrey -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On 30/07/2012 22:41, Jeffrey Lee wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Ian Jeffray wrote: I've also started to get the Win32 build to actually build again, using VS2010 (mostly just a little breakage in the fastmap stuff to solve in a clean way). FWIW, the Win32 build (now that you've fixed all the C99-ness) builds OK with the Express edition of VS2010. So from now on I should be able to use that to check that anything I'm doing isn't going to break building through Visual Studio. I had rather hoped that was the case, but didn't get round to installing express on a clean machine to check. That's great. Might be interesting to check if there's any noticeable (timeable) performance difference between the gcc and vs2010 builds... I'd rather hope the latter would be ahead. Nice to see the updates. I. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, Ian Jeffray wrote:
Might be interesting to check if there's any noticeable (timeable)
performance difference between the gcc and vs2010 builds... I'd rather
hope the latter would be ahead.
I'm not entirely sure if !SICK can be trusted (the CPU speed it reports
seems to keep switching between ~108MHz and ~125MHz), but it looks like
both VS 2010 and GCC 4.5.3 are evenly matched when it comes to CPU
emulation. GCC seems to win when it comes to memory emulation, by quite a
wide margin. Results attached (running Win XP on a Q9450 @ 2.66GHz)
Cheers,
- Jeffrey SICK V1.28
(Please mail result file to m.seif...@t-online.de)
.---.
| Result Values |
'---'
0134 0080 00A4 0137 00A0
001B8495 4E20 7FFE 0040 03A4D4B0
8000 0080
036E0D0C
0001
011F 000C0300
00FF 0D95 0001 0050
00FF 0001 0280 0100 0010 5DC0
001418D9 0010 0105EEEF 0064 012C00DB 7F71
0048D5F1 7F71 002FB7E9 60009000 004DDE65 4E9B7000
0080004F
.---.
| Guesswork |
'---'
Computer model: Acorn A440 or R140
.---.
| Processor |
'---'
Type: Unknown (ID=0), rev. 0
Designer: Unknown (0)
Implementor:Unknown (0)
Manufacturer: Unknown (0)
Clock rate: 122.88 MHz
Processor bugs:
RRX:No
Mode change:No
LDM^: No
LDM/STM:Yes
STM^: No
Istream abort: ?
LDMIB: -
MSR:-
Floating point handler: Old FP-Emulator
FP emulator version:2.87
Floating point hardware: None
..
| Memory |
''
DRAM size:4 Mbytes (reported by OS)
VRAM size:0 bytes (reported by OS)
ROM size: 2 Mbytes
Low ROM access time:450 ns
High ROM access time: 450 ns
.-.
| Frequencies |
'-'
IOC timer frequency: 1.803 MHz
IOC timer 0 setting:4E20 (99.995 Hz)
IOC timer 1 setting:7FFE (61.037 Hz)
Memory clock: 61.13 MHz (reported by OS)
..
| System Performance |
''
Integer: 122168.5 Dhrystones/sec
(69.53 Dhrystone 2.1 MIPS)
(0.566 Dhrystone 2.1 MIPS/MHz)
Floating point: 1017.241 kWhetstones/sec
(1.017 MWIPS)
(0.00828 MWIPS/MHz)
Memory access:
Cache read: 854.4 Mbytes/sec
(7.29 bytes/CPU clock tick)
Cache write:1.273 Gbytes/sec
(11.1 bytes/CPU clock tick)
Main memory read: 602.0 Mbytes/sec
(10.3 bytes/Memory clock tick)
Main memory write: 299.9 Mbytes/sec
(5.14 bytes/Memory clock tick)
Screen memory read:
Division by zero at line 1246
SICK V1.28
(Please mail result file to m.seif...@t-online.de)
.---.
| Result Values |
'---'
0134 0080 00A4 0137 00A0
001B85F5 4E20 7FFE 0040 02CA4778
8000 0080
036E0D0C
0001
011F 000C0300
00FF 0D95 0001 0050
00FF 0001 0280 0100 0010 5DC0
0014191F 0010 0102F970 0064 012A5D0B 7F71
00114403 7F71 00218C1C 60009000 003B3DE6 508C5000
008006C7
.---.
| Guesswork |
'---'
Computer model: Acorn A440 or R140
Re: Web site maintainer
On 30/07/2012 23:33, Jeffrey Lee wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, Ian Jeffray wrote: Might be interesting to check if there's any noticeable (timeable) performance difference between the gcc and vs2010 builds... I'd rather hope the latter would be ahead. I'm not entirely sure if !SICK can be trusted (the CPU speed it reports seems to keep switching between ~108MHz and ~125MHz), but it looks like both VS 2010 and GCC 4.5.3 are evenly matched when it comes to CPU emulation. GCC seems to win when it comes to memory emulation, by quite a wide margin. Results attached (running Win XP on a Q9450 @ 2.66GHz) Wow! That's a difference worth taking notice of. Very interesting! The figures you get out of !SICK are really quite similar to mine, on a 2 year old Win7x64 i7-920@2.66GHz, which is handy. For 'amusement' I tried enabling a lot of the 'silly' and 'unsafe' optimisations in VS2010... and performance actually DROPPED! Clearly it seems gcc is doing something better than VS2010, or the arcem code is more suited to gcc at least. Very interesting indeed. [And annoying as I was hoping VS2010 would be fastest!] Thanks for testing :) I. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On 30/07/2012 23:33, Jeffrey Lee wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, Ian Jeffray wrote: Might be interesting to check if there's any noticeable (timeable) performance difference between the gcc and vs2010 builds... I'd rather hope the latter would be ahead. I'm not entirely sure if !SICK can be trusted (the CPU speed it reports seems to keep switching between ~108MHz and ~125MHz), but it looks like both VS 2010 and GCC 4.5.3 are evenly matched when it comes to CPU emulation. GCC seems to win when it comes to memory emulation, by quite a wide margin. Results attached (running Win XP on a Q9450 @ 2.66GHz) Actually, I'm not sure how much I do trust these results after all. Are you getting consistent output for the memory tests? Doing some testing on arcem on OSX just now (2.8GHz, OSX 8, XCode 4.4) my Main memory write varies anywhere from 372 to 481 MB/sec and cached stuff varies even more... from 2.8 to 5.46 GB/sec ! The dhrystone/whetstone figures are fairly consistent though, and seem to vary in line with the reported CPU speed, which wanders by about 5MHz from 134 to 139MHz. Lies, damned lies and performance test results. I. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Jeffrey Lee wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Michael Drake wrote: On manual.html -- http://arcem.sourceforge.net/manual.html [...] This page has a change log up to version 1.00, which will need updated for 1.50. Indeed - I'll try knocking up a changelog summarising everything that's happened. Now done. Anyone spot anything I've missed? Also for whoever volunteers to update the other bits of the manual (known issues, usage on RISC OS, etc.), there's a fair amount of information that can be taken from the RISC OS !Help file. Cheers, - Jeffrey -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:13:08 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time), Jeffrey Lee wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Jeffrey Lee wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Michael Drake wrote: On manual.html -- http://arcem.sourceforge.net/manual.html [...] This page has a change log up to version 1.00, which will need updated for 1.50. Indeed - I'll try knocking up a changelog summarising everything that's happened. Now done. Anyone spot anything I've missed? Didn't you change it so it operated in 32-bit mode as well as the old palette-mapped style? I have some new tooltypes. | (USEUPDATEFLAGS) | (FRAMESKIP=0) | AUTOUPDATEFLAGS Those are to do with the video mode changes. Not sure exactly what they do so you may have mentioned them in the changelog already - I believe they are only compile time options on other platforms. And some other Amiga-specifics, but as this is the first proper release version for AmigaOS, they wouldn't be relevant for the changelog. Chris -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012, Chris Young wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:13:08 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time), Jeffrey Lee wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Jeffrey Lee wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Michael Drake wrote: On manual.html -- http://arcem.sourceforge.net/manual.html [...] This page has a change log up to version 1.00, which will need updated for 1.50. Indeed - I'll try knocking up a changelog summarising everything that's happened. Now done. Anyone spot anything I've missed? Didn't you change it so it operated in 32-bit mode as well as the old palette-mapped style? Those changes are at least partially covered by some of the existing changelog entries (video emulation rewrite RISC OS version no longer requiring host to support Arc screen modes). Maybe the changelog should be split up further, so each port/platform has its own list of changes? E.g. I've just remembered that Ian made a few changes to the X11 version to allow it to run on X servers that don't support XWarpPointer. I have some new tooltypes. | (USEUPDATEFLAGS) | (FRAMESKIP=0) | AUTOUPDATEFLAGS Those are to do with the video mode changes. Not sure exactly what they do so you may have mentioned them in the changelog already - I believe they are only compile time options on other platforms. Those are performance tweaks, so fall under the rather general Many performance tweaks and optimisations entry. The RISC OS !Help file has fairly decent descriptions of what they do, and can be changed at runtime via the RISC OS versions rather crude tweak menu. Cheers, - Jeffrey -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
Hi, Jeffrey Lee wrote: In lieu of a safe place to get free ROMs, you could add a link to ROL's shop, where they're selling a CD containing Arc ROM images: http://www.e-junkie.com/43789 Thanks, I didn't know of http://www.e-junkie.com/43789/product/457238.php#RISC+OS+Classic+ROMs+Collection+%28Download+Version%29 I see it doesn't have Arthur 0.20. Neither do I as an image but I think I have it on EPROM somewhere. If anyone has that CD I'd be interested to know if any of the SHA1 digests of the ROMs differ from arthur-0.30 6aebd686d97dfdf6726fa5f3246ef35b840b286d 524288 arthur-1.20 1181ff9c2c2f3d6d414054ec33b2260404bafc81 524288 riscos-2.00 b82a78830dac386f9b649b6d32a34f9c6910546d 524288 riscos-3.00 b4fa494d51dd704c9da9653c2acc6acd08cc8cf4 2097152 riscos-3.10 68533e0a93657a879c1697c04f32d517345b1a61 2097152 riscos-3.11 3487729e87bebc9cb51665838c27beff22f7b3bd 2097152 riscos-3.19 ba8c7abe0e6c6c5d7138481c6c052425cbc8b8f4 2097152 riscos-3.50 c31318e712ee7de92e46f9df6c791b614d4c9304 2097152 riscos-3.60 3cf75aa4d4dc8fe57110a124fbd1560d46c549b1 4194304 riscos-3.61 71e67684e1d22f422ab9c586c6b0f900384e8f14 4194304 riscos-3.70 42c3dd0ae43149849b674ea025cb2206512a5b4a 4194304 riscos-3.71 c5fe0645e48894fb4b245abeefdc9a65d659af59 4194304 riscos-3.80 7e461a6aeb9b1cdc03ea734d0c3a9e1a65d3f98a 4194304 riscos-4.02 405d23390882477addd45a05a34f130cc8ecb8c6 4194304 riscos-4.39 faf99b27907800ea46c590c5f45e43083d06f2ad 4194304 ncos-1.064400bd142eebdc71b7ac1794f2cf7dc39de983e2 4194304 ncos-1.117c9e2039bc096038ab236719211a236e9a28192f 4194304 for the ones I have. I wonder what R-Comp are doing for their ROMs in !AcornMode. Good point! Perhaps they've paid ROL a fee to bundle 3.10/3.11 and that may be why it's a download for ARMini-owners only? Cheers, Ralph. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On 25/07/2012 11:48, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi, Jeffrey Lee wrote: In lieu of a safe place to get free ROMs, you could add a link to ROL's shop, where they're selling a CD containing Arc ROM images: http://www.e-junkie.com/43789 Thanks, I didn't know of http://www.e-junkie.com/43789/product/457238.php#RISC+OS+Classic+ROMs+Collection+%28Download+Version%29 ROL are flogging it directly on eBay too... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360463081258 I. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On 25/07/2012 17:28, Michael Drake wrote: The existing content, apart from manual.html, is pretty much up-to-date now. Smashing stuff. I was considering a redesign of the web site next, but I had an idea for a new ArcEm logo: http://www.smoothartist.com/temp/arcem/ There are vector versions and bitmaps there. The current one is: http://arcem.sourceforge.net/arcemlogo.png Its drop shadow is cropped on the right and there are jaggy lines on it. If people want to stick with the existing logo, I'll probably do a cleaned up version of it. I quite like the existing logo... and certainly it needs to be the correct Archimedes cyan blue if you do change it -- it's iconic... stands out as the main logo colour on an old machine, viz: http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/Acorn_Archi440_System_S1.jpg I. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:40:12 +0100, Ian Jeffray wrote: I quite like the existing logo... and certainly it needs to be the correct Archimedes cyan blue if you do change it -- it's iconic... stands out as the main logo colour on an old machine, viz: http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/Acorn_Archi440_System_S1.jpg I don't really like the shape of the existing one, it looked pretty horrid here as an icon too (but that might be because of the jaggies - I imagine people restricted to square icons would have had an even worse experience) Michael's is nicer, but perhaps looks a little bit too much like the old Archimedes logo (by which I mean, it says Archimedes not ArcEm) Also I need something closer to a size of 60x60 pixels :) Chris -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On 24/07/2012 10:47, Michael Drake wrote: cvs -d:pserver:t...@arcem.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/arcem login As stated on the CVS help page on SF, use ssh for developer access; export CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z3 -d:ext:developern...@arcem.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/arcem co -P . https://sourceforge.net/scm/?type=cvsgroup_id=36764 HTH, I. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
Hi Ian, On 23/07/2012 23:27, Jeffrey Lee wrote: I'll upload an alpha version of a 1.50 release for RISC OS. I'd stick some builds up there too, but I believed only the admin of the project could do that. That's what the documentation seems to say. How did you upload files to the project 'files' area? :-S I've checked and you both have the same permissions AFAICS; phlamethrower and ijeffray. Cheers, Ralph. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
In article 500e7172.3060...@jeffray.co.uk, Ian Jeffray i...@jeffray.co.uk wrote: As stated on the CVS help page on SF, use ssh for developer access; export CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z3 -d:ext:developern...@arcem.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/arcem co -P . Thanks, that worked. I've been having a look at the existing pages and there are four: index.html developer.html manual.html screenshots.html I think getting the existing content up-to-date should be the first task. On index.html -- http://arcem.sourceforge.net/ I think it's just the Features section which is out of date. It has Features of version 1.00, and Additional features of the CVS version. I'm not sure if the CVS section has been kept updated or if it's missing things. It should probably become Features of version 1.50 anyway. In the support files section, perhaps a RISC OS 3.11 download can be included now, if it can be built from the ROOL source? I'll probably add Other resources with links to: ADFFS-- http://adffs.filecore.net/ Wocki's Acorn Emulation Site -- http://acorn.revivalteam.de/ Anything else? On developer.html -- http://arcem.sourceforge.net/developer.html The Developer Aims and Future plans look as though they need revisiting. e.g. I doubt there is any plan to add Risc PC support, since there's RPCEmu for that. And is the investigate the use of a JIT or rolling support into the QEMU project still on the cards? The Feature Matrix looks out-of-date. I know the RISC OS version has HostFS and Sound Support, at least. Not sure about the rest of the table. On screenshots.html -- http://arcem.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html Looks vaugly fine. If front end maintainers want to update their screenshot, they're welcome to send it to me and I'll update the site. On manual.html -- http://arcem.sourceforge.net/manual.html Clearly there's the bits marked TODO. Also, the CVS marks can probably be removed, with version 1.50. This page has a change log up to version 1.00, which will need updated for 1.50. Probably other stuff, but I'll look at it more closely once the other pages are updated. If the developers who know the state of things could look over the pages, especially the bits I've mentioned, and let me know, I'll get on with updating it. Cheers, Michael -- Michael Drake http://www.smoothartist.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:47:12 +0100, Michael Drake wrote: On index.html -- http://arcem.sourceforge.net/ I think it's just the Features section which is out of date. It has Features of version 1.00, and Additional features of the CVS version. I'm not sure if the CVS section has been kept updated or if it's missing things. It should probably become Features of version 1.50 anyway. I think it's missing things - such as all of Jeffrey Lee's updates. There is an additional port to AmigaOS 3 (68k) that can be added. The Amiga port links should probably be: For OS4: http://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk/download.php?file=arcem For OS3: http://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk/download.php?file=arcem_os3 I've uploaded them to the Files page too under the 1.50-alpha moniker (even though they probably purport to be something like arcem-fast 1.10+CVS in the archives themselves) Chris -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
In article out-500ee016.md-1.4.17.chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk, Chris Young chri...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: I've uploaded them to the Files page too under the 1.50-alpha moniker (even though they probably purport to be something like arcem-fast 1.10+CVS in the archives themselves) OK, I've updated the website news to mention the various ports: http://arcem.sourceforge.net/index.html I updated it by committing to CVS, SSHing into shell.sourceforge.net, and issuing 'cvs update' in the ArcEm project web site area. Hope that's OK. Cheers, -- Michael Drake http://www.smoothartist.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Michael Drake wrote: On index.html -- http://arcem.sourceforge.net/ I think it's just the Features section which is out of date. It has Features of version 1.00, and Additional features of the CVS version. I'm not sure if the CVS section has been kept updated or if it's missing things. It should probably become Features of version 1.50 anyway. Features of 1.50, IIRC: * VIDC1 sound support on Amiga, RISC OS Unix/X11 * Emulation of 512K, 1MB, 2MB, 4MB, 8MB, 12MB, 16MB of RAM * Emulation of extension ROMs * ARM3 emulation * ArcEm clock set from Hosts's clock, partial RTC support * Accurate video and timer emulation * Display upscaling (I think it might only be RISC OS that uses this at the moment) * Rectangular pixel aspect ratio correction (RISC OS, Windows X11) * Significant performance improvements on low power machines * Enhancements when emulating RISC OS: - HostFS (supported on all platforms) - Mouse scroll wheel support? (I'm not actually sure if this still works, or what platforms it works on!) - The extra video modes In the support files section, perhaps a RISC OS 3.11 download can be included now, if it can be built from the ROOL source? ROOL's CVS history typically only goes back to RISC OS 3.5, so building 3.11 is an impossibility. Building 3.5 is probably pretty hard too! I'll probably add Other resources with links to: ADFFS-- http://adffs.filecore.net/ Wocki's Acorn Emulation Site -- http://acorn.revivalteam.de/ Anything else? In lieu of a safe place to get free ROMs, you could add a link to ROL's shop, where they're selling a CD containing Arc ROM images: http://www.e-junkie.com/43789 I wonder what R-Comp are doing for their ROMs in !AcornMode. On developer.html -- http://arcem.sourceforge.net/developer.html The Developer Aims and Future plans look as though they need revisiting. e.g. I doubt there is any plan to add Risc PC support, since there's RPCEmu for that. And is the investigate the use of a JIT or rolling support into the QEMU project still on the cards? Suggested new aims: * Easier to port to more platforms (an SDL port would probably fulfill that goal) * Easier for the end user to use (The RISC OS Windows frontends are certainly in need of some love) * Support more hardware - IOEB emulation (1.6MB floppies, joysticks, more VIDC clock speeds, etc.) - Parallel serial emulation * Tidier, making the code easier to bug fix and maintain * Faster (no need to mention JIT, unless someone's confident they can make it work!) * Additional features - Networking - Ability to save restore emulator state (perfect for those games that don't let you save) The Feature Matrix looks out-of-date. I know the RISC OS version has HostFS and Sound Support, at least. Not sure about the rest of the table. * ExtnROM, HostFS - works on all * Gfx 800x600 - I believe Windows OS X are the only two that don't support this. * Sound - see above features list * Mousewheel - I guess we'd better check that it still works! And the GP2X column can be removed :( On manual.html -- http://arcem.sourceforge.net/manual.html [...] This page has a change log up to version 1.00, which will need updated for 1.50. Indeed - I'll try knocking up a changelog summarising everything that's happened. Cheers, - Jeffrey -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
Hi Michael, I'd like to offer to be ArcEm web site maintainer. A volunteer! Capital! I wouldn't want to see something like http://www.redsquirrel.fsnet.co.uk/redsquirrel.html though, as amusing as it may be on first visit. :-) Something that lets newcomers get up and running quickly, including a better hard disk image, and lets them clearly know how to contribute would be good. (More volunteers required.) Ian Jeffray wrote: An admin (Ralph/Chocky) needs to add Michael to the developers list. My sourceforge username is 'tlsa'. You're added, welcome aboard. I've been using ArcEm quite a bit lately with ADFFS, which works really well. It lets you load ADF, APD and JFD format floppy disc images and can change disc via keypress, so there isn't much call for front ends to support changing discs or different floppy image formats any more. Probably worth a link from the web site. :) Indeed, I didn't know about http://adffs.filecore.net/. Ian Jeffray wrote: Great! I'll have to remember how to use CVS. :) Or not. I've never really seen a good reason to put the webpages in CVS other than maybe as some kind of backup system. It's not like there's any need for versioning etc. I'd prefer it if the web site was kept under revision control. Given the length of the project is so long and participants come and go, it's a pain to have to wade through mailing list archives when looking for the history of why something is like it is, was that what was meant or is there an error, etc. Decent check-in comments succintly and accurately describing the reason for the change can help a lot, as do well-partitioned deltas. Cheers, Ralph. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On 17/07/2012 22:22, Jeffrey Lee wrote: Michael being the website maintainer sounds good to me. At one point I was planning on updating it a bit myself with a new RISC OS build, but I guess I never put in the effort to track down someone who could explain it all or give me the right permissions. I don't think you need any more permissions than you've got just now... write access to CVS to archive the webpages, then it's fairly trivial to scp to the pages to the webserver of course; usern...@web.sf.net:/home/project-web/arcem/webpages An admin (Ralph/Chocky) needs to add Michael to the developers list. Ian. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
In article 50055fbc.2040...@jeffray.co.uk, Ian Jeffray i...@jeffray.co.uk wrote: I vote in favour :-) The web pages are all in CVS, but a complete revamp may well be in order really. Great! I'll have to remember how to use CVS. :) -- Michael Drake http://www.smoothartist.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
In article Pine.WNT.4.62.1207172201580.3196@c203, Jeffrey Lee m...@phlamethrower.co.uk wrote: Agreed. Since these last few years have seen a focus on improving the emulator core, it would make sense if the next release (2022?) made sure all the frontends/ports are up to scratch. I've been using ArcEm quite a bit lately with ADFFS, which works really well. It lets you load ADF, APD and JFD format floppy disc images and can change disc via keypress, so there isn't much call for front ends to support changing discs or different floppy image formats any more. Probably worth a link from the web site. :) -- Michael Drake http://www.smoothartist.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
In article 500680ac.7010...@jeffray.co.uk, Ian Jeffray i...@jeffray.co.uk wrote: An admin (Ralph/Chocky) needs to add Michael to the developers list. My sourceforge username is 'tlsa'. -- Michael Drake http://www.smoothartist.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
On 18/07/2012 13:46, Michael Drake wrote: In article 50055fbc.2040...@jeffray.co.uk, Ian Jeffray i...@jeffray.co.uk wrote: I vote in favour :-) The web pages are all in CVS, but a complete revamp may well be in order really. Great! I'll have to remember how to use CVS. :) Or not. I've never really seen a good reason to put the webpages in CVS other than maybe as some kind of backup system. It's not like there's any need for versioning etc. I. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
Re: Web site maintainer
Michael being the website maintainer sounds good to me. At one point I was planning on updating it a bit myself with a new RISC OS build, but I guess I never put in the effort to track down someone who could explain it all or give me the right permissions. On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Ian Jeffray wrote: I've also started to get the Win32 build to actually build again, using VS2010 (mostly just a little breakage in the fastmap stuff to solve in a clean way). Last time I checked the Win32 build worked when using the GCC makefile. But the Visual Studio build would certainly be broken, since I never bothered to install VS and keep the project up to date. Does sound like a good idea to do a release build of every platform notionally still actively supported. Agreed. Since these last few years have seen a focus on improving the emulator core, it would make sense if the next release (2022?) made sure all the frontends/ports are up to scratch. Cheers, - Jeffrey -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ -- arcem-devel mailing list arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-devel
