Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 13

2014-04-04 Thread Chris R. Squatritto
I am out of the office this week and will not be checking email. Please contact Troy Miller for assistance.. Thank you for contacting me, and have a great day. ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread David Huberman
Hi Scott, Thank you for the reply. Please allow me to explain why I keep repeating that ARIN is not a regulator. I believe ARIN only exists to serve the network operator community. It has been tasked to do so via the IETF. You wrote: It doesn't blindly register any request it receives. I

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread Morizot Timothy S
-Original Message- From: David Huberman [mailto:david.huber...@microsoft.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 10:22 AM With an exhausted IPv4 pool, there are no pool limitations at the time of allocation as there are no allocations. ARIN's role in IPv4 is primarily the third goal

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread John Curran
On Apr 4, 2014, at 11:21 AM, David Huberman david.huber...@microsoft.com wrote: Today, however, RFC2050 has been deprecated by RFC7020. RFC7020 lays out three primary goals: - Allocation Pool Management - Hierarchical Allocation - Registry Accuracy ... That's why I advocate removing

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread Steven Ryerse
David is right that when he advocates removing needs-basis from transfers in a post- exhaustion world. However, the only difference between then and now is that ARIN probably has a larger unallocated IPv4 then it will after Exhaustion. The size of what ARIN has in its unallocated pool really

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread Steven Ryerse
If an org with no resources applies they should at least be able to get the minimum which has been set by this community which I think is currently at a /22. Always! If an org wants larger than a /22 they need to be able to demonstrate in a reasonable way that they are a larger org with a

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread Steven Ryerse
We are a tiny org with a tiny network in relation to say a fortune 1000 company. We should never be approved for a /8 or a /16 or some resource that is way larger than we are. We should however, be approved for resources that match our size. I think we are the ones who should determine if

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Peddemors
On 14-04-04 03:44 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Apr 4, 2014, at 11:00 AM, Steven Ryerse srye...@eclipse-networks.com wrote: If an org with no resources applies they should at least be able to get the minimum which has been set by this community which I think is currently at a /22. Always!

[arin-ppml] Update: 2014-1 Out of Region Use

2014-04-04 Thread Martin Hannigan
Same, +1. Which isn't Section 11 a better place to address this? Best, -M On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:55 PM, David Huberman david.huber...@microsoft.com javascript:; wrote: Support in principle, strongly opposed as written. ARIN is a registry, not a regulator. Networks with global reach

Re: [arin-ppml] Update: 2014-1 Out of Region Use

2014-04-04 Thread Martin Hannigan
Oops, buffer overflow. Wrong thread. Simply, +1 for this thread. On Friday, April 4, 2014, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote: Same, +1. Which isn't Section 11 a better place to address this? Best, -M On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:55 PM, David Huberman

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread xiaofan yang
Hi David, There is problem here. the buyer who is interested in our first /16 want us to update ARIN whois records before we sell it to the buyer.we have brought the company X and this is the reason why we ask ARIN if ARIN could do the 8.2 transfer first then followed by the 8.3 transfer

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread John Curran
On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:36 AM, xiaofan yang nikiyan...@gmail.commailto:nikiyan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John Your MA transfer may indeed be rejected if you do not have adequate documentation; see my prior email regarding list of acceptable documents. As refer to your list of acceptable

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread David Huberman
You wrote: the buyer who is interested in our first /16 want us to update ARIN whois records before we sell it to the buyer. Perhaps if you solve that problem with your buyer, the rest of your issues become moot. ARIN policy and procedure can only go so far. Private parties have to put