Re: [arin-ppml] Thoughts on 2015-7

2015-08-20 Thread Michael Peddemors
It looks like it is obvious, we need a new proposal that will accommodate both sides of this devide, enabling accurate record keeping, without language that encourages a positioning 'policy' that stake holders are uncomfortable with. On 15-08-20 04:35 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: On 8/20/2015

Re: [arin-ppml] Thoughts on 2015-7

2015-08-20 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 8/20/2015 1:04 PM, Brian Jones wrote: ​I agree with this simplified requirement but would even be willing to accept a 50% within 12 months and 75% in 24 months requirement. Two years is a long time to tie up valuable resources that are not being used. IMHO​ I do not understand this

Re: [arin-ppml] Thoughts on 2015-7

2015-08-20 Thread khatfield
I agree with David here. I do believe there should be a requirement that any new allocations must keep the allocation x amount of time before it can transferred. Possibly 12 months+ which would thereby kill most ideas to sell for profit. -Kevin On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:05 PM, David Huberman

Re: [arin-ppml] Thoughts on 2015-7

2015-08-20 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 8/20/2015 2:05 PM, David Huberman wrote: Hi Bill, Still against it because it still applies to out-region transfers where ARIN no longer has access to it and CAN NOT revoke it for fraud when the attestation turns out to be untrue. So I get what you're saying. And you're right.

Re: [arin-ppml] Thoughts on 2015-7

2015-08-20 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 8/20/2015 4:09 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: This is one of those areas where people of good conscience can disagree. I absolutely feel it is ARINs job as a steward of resources held in trust for the community to exercise due diligence in the issuance of those resources and to revoke them when

[arin-ppml] Thoughts on 2015-7

2015-08-20 Thread Rob Seastrom
Dear Colleagues, It's been almost two months since ARIN 2015-7 was submitted. Anyone have thoughts on Simplified requirements for demonstrated need for IPv4 transfers? The AC would love your input. Draft policy text follows: Draft Policy ARIN-2015-7 Simplified requirements for demonstrated