[arin-ppml] Weekly posting summary for p...@arin.net

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Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

> Ronald F. Guilmette wrote : > Having tried, and failed, to find the RFC that describes and designates > Industry Standard Squat > Space, I've come to the conclusion that there isn't one, and that thus, I > ought to write one. > I'd like to have it drafted and ready to go by April 1, 2020. :-)

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

In message , Martin Hannigan wrote: >On the operators using DoD space? Too bad. It happened on 23/8 to me and >many times. I would get a call and was asked to "make an exception" and let >someone use a subnet or three while they "figured out what to do". Why >would I or anyone subsidize another

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

Ron This one? https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7249 or this IANA registry . https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv4-special-registry/iana-ipv4-special-registry.xhtml On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 6:50 PM Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > In message > >, Michel Py wrote: > > >It displeases the

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

In message , Michel Py wrote: >It displeases the operators who have been using DoD space as Industry >Standard Squat Space. Having tried, and failed, to find the RFC that describes and designates Industry Standard Squat Space, I've come to the conclusion that there isn't one, and that thus, I

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

> On Dec 19, 2019, at 04:03 , hostmas...@uneedus.com wrote: > > I see this as an instant headache for a lot of larger network operators who > are using portions of this DOD space like RFC1918 addresses. Once these > addresses become public, those operators are going to have to renumber that

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:32:27PM +, Michel Py wrote: [snip] > > Joe Provo wrote : > > Since this list is archived and referenced, rather than let that sit in > > silence, > > personally I have to note - there is no such thing as "industry standard > > squat space". > > Joe, this is

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

> Martin Hannigan wrote : > On the operators using DoD space? Too bad. ;-) > Just as ARIN can't set policy to stop squatting, squatters have no rights. I agree, but unfortunately they have lobbying power. > Joe Provo wrote : > Since this list is archived and referenced, rather than let that

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 09:04:20PM +, Michel Py wrote: [snip] > It displeases the operators who have been using DoD space as Industry > Standard Squat Space. Since this list is archived and referenced, rather than let that sit in silence, personally I have to note - there is no such thing

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

On the operators using DoD space? Too bad. It happened on 23/8 to me and many times. I would get a call and was asked to "make an exception" and let someone use a subnet or three while they "figured out what to do". Why would I or anyone subsidize another network operator? o_0 I received the space

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

> Ca By > Also, the language requiring the DoD to move has been removed from the bill. > Likely because relevant budget organs of government explained how it is > fiscally > impossible to get to ipv6 for them. You can search this archive for one M. Py > for a template of what they may say about

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 9:44 AM Fernando Frediani wrote: > As far as I understand as presented in the URL the text is the one after > passing on both houses and just lacks President's sanction. As it was > probably a proposal drafted by the Department of Defense there is no way to > think that

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years

So I take that to mean they are still required to move to IPv6 but are not required to sell their IPv4. But they probably can sell the IPv4 addresses if they wanted to? --Dan On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:20 AM Jacob Slater wrote: > It doesn't seem that the provision survived negotiations with

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years

It doesn't seem that the provision survived negotiations with the Senate. Per @akanygren, https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20191209/116hrpt333-JointExplanatoryStatement.pdf, ctrl+f 1088 Jacob Slater On

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019, 13:12 , wrote: > As I understand it, all purchases since 2008 and all federal networks must > be IPv6 capable. They should already be close to dual stack, and a sale > would just involve getting rid of IPv4. > > Unlike typical corporate networks, they should already be 99%

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

As I understand it, all purchases since 2008 and all federal networks must be IPv6 capable. They should already be close to dual stack, and a sale would just involve getting rid of IPv4. Unlike typical corporate networks, they should already be 99% there, since all purchases in the last 11

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

As far as I understand as presented in the URL the text is the one after passing on both houses and just lacks President's sanction. As it was probably a proposal drafted by the Department of Defense there is no way to think that President will refuse it. But I may be missing something on my

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

I did a bit of looking. The language did appear in House Bill 2500, but that bill has ONLY passed the House. Those that track bills give it only a 3 percent chance of passage. That language never made it to passage. Therefore, it looks like it is going nowhere. The only US federal

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

I thought the budget bill already passed. Did it contain the IPv4 sell provisions or not? Anyone know what the bill number was, and if it was signed by the President? Albert Erdmann Network Administrator Paradise On Line Inc. On Thu, 19 Dec 2019, Ca By wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 4:03 AM wrote: > I see this as an instant headache for a lot of larger network operators > who are using portions of this DOD space like RFC1918 addresses. Once > these addresses become public, those operators are going to have to > renumber that space. That is 16.9

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19

I see this as an instant headache for a lot of larger network operators who are using portions of this DOD space like RFC1918 addresses. Once these addresses become public, those operators are going to have to renumber that space. That is 16.9 million hosts per block used. Maybe these

Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years

In message , Fernando Frediani wrote: >https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1790/text#toc-H3733C370A69A4095B62B213B52530170 > >"IPv6 strategy made it into NDAA 2020, requiring DOD to sell 13 x /8s >(1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 10 years after the date of the enactment >of

[arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years

I believe these are relevant news to this list https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1790/text#toc-H3733C370A69A4095B62B213B52530170 "IPv6 strategy made it into NDAA 2020, requiring DOD to sell 13 x /8s (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 10 years after the date of the enactment

[arin-ppml] Fwd: [arin-announce] ARIN Announces Implementation of Weekly Waitlist Distribution

"Today, ARIN filled all existing approved IPv4 waitlist requests and was left with additional IPv4 address space cleared for issuance. In accordance with Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM) policy 4.1.8 (ARIN Waitlist), which specifies that ARIN will only issue future IPv4