Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-16 Thread Mike Arbrouet
I will support policy. Mike Arbrouet -- Original message-- From: Brian Jones Date: Thu, Aug 16, 2018 1:16 PM To: arin-ppml@arin.net; Cc: Subject:Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers While I do not see the burning need for this, evidence suggests that it does

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-16 Thread Brian Jones
While I do not see the burning need for this, evidence suggests that it does occur, therefore a policy to cover it seems appropriate. I support this policy. -- Brian E Jones, CSP-SM, CSP-PO NI Virginia Tech bjo...@vt.edu > On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:01 PM, WOOD Alison * DAS wrote: > > ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-16 Thread Peter Harrison
Agreed Carlton, Quite apart from the technical consideration, this would also allow accounting departments to consolidate some of their A/P vendor lists. The lack of usage of the feature could be due to the fact that these teams are unaware of the possibility. Peter --- Peter Harrison CTO,

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-16 Thread David Farmer
n this process with no ill effects. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:00:28 -0400 Steven Ryerse < >> srye...@eclipse-n

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-16 Thread Jo Rhett
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Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-14 Thread Mike Burns
Cc: Steven Ryerse ; ARIN-PPML List Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers Correction… APNIC and RIPE already have policy to support this process with no utilization. Owen On Aug 13, 2018, at 16:03 , Mike Burns mailto:m...@iptrading.com> >

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-14 Thread hostmaster
gust 13, 2018 6:52 PM To: Job Snijders mailto:j...@ntt.net>> Cc: ARIN-PPML List mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers If you operate a network with peering sessions, and you are forced to renumber your ASN, you eithe

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Owen DeLong
alf Of Scott Leibrand > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 6:52 PM > To: Job Snijders mailto:j...@ntt.net>> > Cc: ARIN-PPML List mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers > > > If you operate a networ

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Mike Burns
770.656.1460 - Cell 770.399.9099 - Office 770.392.0076 - Fax   ℠ Eclipse Networks, Inc.     Conquering Complex Networks℠   From: ARIN-PPML On Behalf Of Scott Leibrand Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 6:52 PM To: Job Snijders Cc: ARIN-PPML List Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Aug 13, 2018, at 15:52 , Scott Leibrand wrote: > > If you operate a network with peering sessions, and you are forced to > renumber your ASN, you either need to convince all of your peers to set up > new sessions (which can be a lot of work, and usually means at least some of > them

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Steven Ryerse
Of Scott Leibrand Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 6:52 PM To: Job Snijders Cc: ARIN-PPML List Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers If you operate a network with peering sessions, and you are forced to renumber your ASN, you either need to convince all of your

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Scott Leibrand
If you operate a network with peering sessions, and you are forced to renumber your ASN, you either need to convince all of your peers to set up new sessions (which can be a lot of work, and usually means at least some of them will refuse/fail to do so), or you need to local-as prepend the old ASN

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Job Snijders
On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 at 01:23, Larry Ash wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:47:09 -0700 > Owen DeLong wrote: > >> On Aug 13, 2018, at 14:42 , Job Snijders wrote: > >> > >> I agree with the proposal. > >> > >> I think this proposal is needed and addresses practical concerns: the > alternative to

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Larry Ash
On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:47:09 -0700 Owen DeLong wrote: On Aug 13, 2018, at 14:42 , Job Snijders wrote: I agree with the proposal. I think this proposal is needed and addresses practical concerns: the alternative to transfers is “renumbering”, and renumbering ASNs is a very costly and

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Job Snijders
On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 at 00:48, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2018, at 14:42 , Job Snijders wrote: > > > > I agree with the proposal. > > > > I think this proposal is needed and addresses practical concerns: the > alternative to transfers is “renumbering”, and renumbering ASNs is a very >

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Aug 13, 2018, at 14:42 , Job Snijders wrote: > > I agree with the proposal. > > I think this proposal is needed and addresses practical concerns: the > alternative to transfers is “renumbering”, and renumbering ASNs is a very > costly and operationally risky proposition. There is no

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Job Snijders
I agree with the proposal. I think this proposal is needed and addresses practical concerns: the alternative to transfers is “renumbering”, and renumbering ASNs is a very costly and operationally risky proposition. There is no upside to restricting or forbidding this type of resource transfer. A

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Owen DeLong
I still feel this is a pony. A largely unnecessary solution looking for a tiny number of niche problems. Owen > On Aug 13, 2018, at 10:01, WOOD Alison * DAS wrote: > > ARIN Community: > > As we approach the next ARIN meeting, I would like to remind the community of > the proposal to

[arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread WOOD Alison * DAS
ARIN Community: As we approach the next ARIN meeting, I would like to remind the community of the proposal to allow inter-regional ASN transfers. I will be presenting this topic at the meeting and would love to address any comments or questions on this proposal. Please feel free to email the