[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

The following Draft Policy has been revised: * ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language Revised text is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_8/ You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

> Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language > > Problem Statement: > > Section 11 of the NRPM contains a great deal of language that is either > explicitly not policy, or is not impactful on ARIN’s administration of > Internet number resources for experimental

[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

The following Draft Policy has been revised: * ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language Revised text is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_8/ You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

> On Nov 1, 2022, at 06:15, Brian Jones wrote: > > See inline comments. > > Brian Jones > Virginia Tech > ARIN Advisory Council > > > >> On Oct 31, 2022, at 8:09 PM, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML > > wrote: >> >> I’m not sure we’re looking to encourage greater use

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

See inline comments. Brian Jones Virginia Tech ARIN Advisory Council > On Oct 31, 2022, at 8:09 PM, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML > wrote: > > I’m not sure we’re looking to encourage greater use so much as to make the > policy more comprehensible. Raising awareness that there is such a thing

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

the Policy Development Process. Section 4.2 of the PDP >>>>>>>> defines “technically sound” in a very narrow fashion that’s highly >>>>>>>> specific to public number administration—namely: >>>>>>>> >>

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

gt;> >>>> (3) To the extent “technically sound” means that the experimental >>>> activity wouldn’t harm the operation of the internet, that requirement is >>>> already covered by the following criterion: >>>> >>>> >>&

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

at the experimental >>> activity wouldn’t harm the operation of the internet, that requirement is >>> already covered by the following criterion: >>> >>> >>> >>> * Demonstration to ARIN that the experimental activity is technically &

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

sible. Policy should maximize number >>>>>> resource availability to parties with operational need. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Support the aggregation of Internet number resources in a >>>

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

of >>>>> the individual Internet operators.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Support the unique registration of Internet number resources. Policy >>>>> should prevent to the extent feasible any unknown or duplicat

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

> >>>> Presumably, these criteria would be irrelevant to many experimental >>>> activities. And in any event, these criteria seem more fitting for how ARIN >>>> administers public numbers than for how a private experiment is conducted. >>>> >>

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

d in any event, these criteria seem more fitting for how >>>> ARIN administers public numbers than for how a private experiment is >>>> conducted. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> (3) To the extent “technically sound” means that the experimental acti

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

ouldn’t harm the operation of the internet, that requirement is >>> already covered by the following criterion: >>> >>> >>> >>> * Demonstration to ARIN that the experimental activity is technically >>> coordinated in that consideration of any potential

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

operation of the Internet and its deployed >> services has been considered, and a description of experimenter mitigation >> plans to contain any negative impacts has been provided. >> >> >> >> Or am I thinking of experimental activities too broadly (or narrowly)? &

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

nter mitigation > plans to contain any negative impacts has been provided. > > > > Or am I thinking of experimental activities too broadly (or narrowly)? > > > > Thanks, > > *Nick Nugent* | *Amazon.com* > Senior Corporate Counsel, Amazon Web Services > Ema

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

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Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

Updated markup and new version can be found here for your review. https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/pdf/NRPM-Section11-update-20221021.pdf https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/pdf/NRPM-Section11-update-20221021-clean.pdf Thanks, Andrew On 10/26/22 10:44 AM, ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

> > > Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language > > Problem Statement: > > Section 11 of the NRPM contains a great deal of language that is either > explicitly not policy, or is not impactful on ARIN's administration of > Internet number resources for experimental

[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

The following Draft Policy has been revised: * ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language Revised text is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_8/ You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

This is a typo in the latest draft the shepherds intend to change the word "policy" to "document" for this bullet. Andrew On 10/18/22 3:02 PM, John Santos wrote: "Policy" is completely the wrong word.  Policies must be enacted according the the Policy Development Process, not by the published

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

"Policy" is completely the wrong word. Policies must be enacted according the the Policy Development Process, not by the published results of an experiment, as interpreted by the experimenter. I agree that the results of any experiment conducted under this policy should be publicly and

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

+1 Our policy should merely enable the ability to do experiments, not drive their outcomes one way or the other. On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 11:39 AM A N wrote: > Agree with Owen - "policy" is not the optimal word. "The experiment’s > outcomes must also be published in a publicly accessible

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

Agree with Owen - "policy" is not the optimal word. "The experiment’s outcomes must also be published in a publicly accessible policy”. Most of the time, the results of an experiment don't end up in a policy. They end up in a research paper, or end up being used by a company/lab. I think the

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

“The experiment’s outcomes must also be published in a publicly accessible policy”— I don’t think policy is the correct final word to this sentence… Many experiments (most I would venture to say) don’t result in policies. Perhaps document, report, or some other word would be more appropriate

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

Hello, We have prepared an updated documents showing the intended changes of section 11 to assist with the discussion at the upcoming meeting.   Please see the links below or the attached PDFs. https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/pdf/NRPM-Section11-update-20221012.pdf

[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language

The following Draft Policy has been revised: * ARIN-2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language Revised text is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_8/ You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the