Re: [Arm-netbook] Should we support libre.computer's efforts at promoting lima?

There are dozens of arm sbs right now that are crippled mainly due to Mali graphics. A lot of them would be very useful for stuff that e.g. the rpi doesn't do like cheap nas. Just saying. On Thu, Oct 18, 2018, 08:32 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious

Re: [Arm-netbook] [Campaign Question] USB-C is used more and more...

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018, 04:41 Christopher Havel wrote: > I personally think there was nothing wrong with USB-A/B/mini-B. I put up > with USB Micro. I do *not* put up with USB-C. USB-C, in my not-so-humble > opinion (IMNSHO) is missing three letters off the end that, together, rhyme > with "map"...

Re: [Arm-netbook] Linux now boots on 22nm RISC-V Shakti CPU

I've read somewhere that this requires specifically compiled binaries to work because it lacks some instructions. Is that correct? If so will this limitation carry forward to other designs from the team? On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > Its the one im here

[Arm-netbook] low cost pcb wifi antenna

This just came into my attention: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/pi-zero-w-wireless-antenna-design/ Very interesting and potentially useful in the future. Note that the antenna design is available for licensing. ___ arm-netbook mailing list

Re: [Arm-netbook] kuala lumpur airport on way chennai

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On way to 9th RISCV workshop in chennai, preliminary slides here > http://hands.com/~lkcl/libre_riscv_chennai_2018.pdf > > Contains links to other talks but not accepted ones. > Slide 20 is missing content/glitched.

Re: [Arm-netbook] [Campaign Question] The project page (crowdsupp...

On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > anyone may do so... under license [zero fees if it's libre]. i have > been doing them up until now. I am aware. My question was more on the practical terms of who is *actually* going to make future cards after the A20. Is

Re: [Arm-netbook] [Campaign Question] The project page (crowdsupp...

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 6:35 PM, lkcl wrote: > thanks for this - it's really appreciated, i'm going to cc the mailing > list, bcc'ing you, and taking out your email address. > > there is something which i've not put on the page (however it has been > discussed many times over the years on the

Re: [Arm-netbook] Cortex-A76: Laptop class performance with mobile power efficiency

Lead time from an ARM IP announcement to new products tend to be approximately 1 year. Also the high end cores usually only appear on high end SoCs first( e.g. snapdragon 800 series). On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Wean Irdeh wrote: >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Well, this is interesting...

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:04 AM, Louis Pearson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Christopher Havel > wrote: > >> Neither ARM nor netbook, strictly speaking, but we've veered off topic >> before, so gee why not... >> >>

[Arm-netbook] Can someone explain me what this really means?

I find it hard to believe, but here is some upstream code from Qualcomm no less for the snapdragon 845 and the adreno 630 gpu too. https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2018-February/165668.html ___ arm-netbook mailing list

Re: [Arm-netbook] I find this all strange, but good

What happened? Did I miss something? Where did that 250k come from? On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 2:11 PM, zap wrote: > 2.5 watts for a quad core processor or even octacore... That sounds just > plain absurd. But yeah, with less crap inside of it... it makes some > sense I suppose.

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V SoC

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > do you happen to know if the building blocks - the key high-cpu-load > parts - of HEVC (aka H.265) _happen_ to be the same or near-identical > to MPEG or H.264 and so on? > I don't know. But youtube is

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > in other words: when you add up the amount of time and effort > proposed to be spent, and convert it to an actual dollar amount, i > estimate that it would come to an amount that would EASILY fund the >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V SoC

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > ... you mean like this? > https://opencores.org/project,video_systems > Yes, maybe with the adition of hevc. That would be ideal. ___ arm-netbook mailing list

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > > > it's just not worth it and drives up the price of the second-hand > thinkpads, and pisses everyone off who is selling them to libre > conscious people as they can't make a business case for even

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V SoC

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 6:06 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > i'm also talking to jeff from nyuzi, he designed a software-driven > "compute engine that happens to be reasonably good at 3D", the > interesting bit being that he's focussed on working out which areas > need

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > no. > > it is a vast amount of work. the LCD has to be researched (if its > datasheet is even available). a conversion circuit has to be designed > and manufactuered and before that it is necesssary to

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > ok so the past couple of updates i sent out i mentioned that there's > no longer sufficient funds in the current campaign to further pay > accommodation or any other living expenses. thus it is *really >

Re: [Arm-netbook] open risc v question:

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 12:33 AM, zap wrote: > Are the shakti processors arm based for the architecture or some new > architecture or a different one. They are risc-v based ___ arm-netbook mailing list

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V RV64GC SoC

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > so, ahh i would say it's christmas come early but it really *is* christmas :) > unlike many people to whom i've pitched the idea of an entirely libre > SoC, madhu instead responded, "ok sure, what would you

[Arm-netbook] New 3d printing technique

I don't know how far in your 3d printer design you are Luke, or even if something like this is useful/feasible( it's a completely different extruder and servos), but I'm leaving it here for future reference. http://news.mit.edu/2017/new-3-d-printer-10-times-faster-commercial-counterparts-1129

Re: [Arm-netbook] Top Priority Software Tasks

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > remember: with the sunxi 3.4.104 kernel *xserver fb turbo works*. > libcedrus *works*. acceleration of video decoding and

Re: [Arm-netbook] Top Priority Software Tasks

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:11 AM, Adam Van Ymeren wrote: > Hey Luke, > I've started looking at http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/source_code/ > for inspiration. > > But I'd like to know which tasks are a priority for you to deliver the > current crowd supply pledges. I think

Re: [Arm-netbook] New Risc-V fully free chip

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > the initial plan is to use the main processor with some basic SIMD > vector-processing instructions, which in quad-core would be more than > adequate. > > bear in mind this is - preliminarily - to be around

Re: [Arm-netbook] New Risc-V fully free chip

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > RISC-V is *significantly* less power-hungry, performance/watt. also, > those 3 watts will include a Monster GPU, which will

Re: [Arm-netbook] New Risc-V fully free chip

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:38 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > it's the "mobile" class. get this: in 28nm they're looking at 600mW > power consumption for the m-class :) > 600mW sound like an aweful little for desktop use. I can't fathom javascript loading speeds in

Re: [Arm-netbook] New Risc-V fully free chip

On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 5:44 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > yeh the same team that was mentioned last week. suggestions on how > to contact them appreciated. From that link: IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN A EARLY ACCESS TO THE C-CLASS (64-BIT) PLEASE MAIL US AT:

[Arm-netbook] New Risc-V fully free chip

Just noticed this: https://bitbucket.org/casl/shakti_public/ Probably worth keeping it in mind for the next couple years. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large

Re: [Arm-netbook] Communication improvements (Update Oct 10th)

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 2:22 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > Hi vincent joshuas changed date. Am in sz at maker faire phone typing 1 > finger thank you for your thoughts really appreciated , hdmi review needs > to complete hope all is well with richard and family > Did

Re: [Arm-netbook] OT: Librem 5?

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:10 AM, J.B. Nicholson wrote: > > > Quite; does this disable function fully and completely disable all attempts > at using any ME functionality such that nothing can re-enable the ME, or is > this disablement somehow impermanent or more limited in

Re: [Arm-netbook] OT: Librem 5?

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > they made it look like, because everything else was libre, there was > really absolutely no harm done by having the ME firmware, you really > had nothing to be concerned about, you could buy one of their

Re: [Arm-netbook] OT: Librem 5?

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Lauri Kasanen wrote: > You make a decent argument, however all the issues were pointed out to > them during the laptop campaigns again and again, and they did not > learn; they repeated them with this phone. That's willfull ignorance if > not

Re: [Arm-netbook] OT: Librem 5?

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Isaac David wrote: > as a cellphone non-user and die-hard libre software acolyte, i don't > see the Purism people as enemies. they only need to reword their > marketing to be a bit less disingenuous. they speak the language of > the

Re: [Arm-netbook] OT: Librem 5?

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Isaac David <isacdaa...@isacdaavid.info> wrote: > Bill Kontos wrote : >> >> Purists that will tell you to just not use a phone because >> we are required by regulations to run those few kb of closed rom code >> have no place in

Re: [Arm-netbook] OT: Librem 5?

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > but seriously: ethical decision-making is an on-off thing. it's > either black - you made an ethical decision - or it's white - you made > an UNethical decision. you chose CONVENIENCE over making a stand,

Re: [Arm-netbook] ppcnotebook

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:21 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com wrote: > > Small defects hinder speed. Thus sell them with a lower speed rating. > That's why overclocking yields different results for different cpu's > the CPU's are sold batched on the lowest common. > > With bigger

Re: [Arm-netbook] frickin funny

Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/78w8jy/pcmcia-once-defined-portable-computing-now-its-a-cable-industry-oddity A year or 2 back I was reading Cory Doctorow's Little Brother and I was wondering "what happened to the upgradable

[Arm-netbook] Injection Molding Cost

Hi, I remember luke mentioning in the past that injection molding would be too expensive for such a low-volume project. However I found this project from crowd supply that is using molds for production on a total of ~3800 pledges

Re: [Arm-netbook] Cell phone question

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Isaac David wrote: > afaik not only then, but whenever network radio is turned > on and transmitting; which for existing mobile protocols > sadly means all the time. Yep. Essentially if you are going to use a phone you will have to do

Re: [Arm-netbook] Cell phone question

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Joseph Lira wrote: > i can keep updating and patching until its truelly obsolete and all will > still >respecting my privacy, does such a phone exist? > No. Mobile networks require closed-source firmware by law and gps requires proprietary

[Arm-netbook] Potential new mali driver

I just spotted this https://people.freedesktop.org/~cbrill/dri-log/?channel=lima=2017-06-23 It seems like there is a new person working on a driver for mali hardware, specifically the mali-400, and apparently it is an amd employee. ___ arm-netbook

Re: [Arm-netbook] systemd nonsense ad-infinitum

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:29 PM, Christopher Havel wrote: > > So, Mr Kontos *et al.*, what would you have me maintain, other than my > distance from any mission-critical chunk of code...? ;) I'm in the same boat as you. Money. Something that you want to happen isn't

Re: [Arm-netbook] severe systemd bugs (two of them)

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > even with that in mind i see no down-side to the additional workload > that you refer to when you consider the upside that diversity brings. > no monoculture, no centralised control, and a need for people

Re: [Arm-netbook] severe systemd bugs (two of them)

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > for anyone who still believes that systemd is okay to use and deploy, > and that there exist "great advantages that outweigh the risks", are > you *finally* getting the message now? Because the only distro

Re: [Arm-netbook] I apologize for not knowing this sooner,

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Christopher Havel wrote: > I cannot comprehend the necessity of having two hundred twenty browser tabs > open, sum total... I rarely have need for one tenth of that. I'm using 29 tabs right now after cleaning a couple. Libre Office and

Re: [Arm-netbook] mali gpu reverse engineering lkcl may ignore

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, David Niklas wrote: > Now can we get back to how to do the reverse engineering itself? Someone should suggest Luc to open a monthly patreon-styled donation page for working on lima. ___ arm-netbook

Re: [Arm-netbook] mali gpu reverse engineering lkcl may ignore

> > has NVIDIA engaged in similar illegal or unethical practices to that > which ARM carried out against luc verhaegen, which we know were and > are sanctioned by the CTO of ARM? Sorry I chopped it off to keep the conclusion only. Nvidia switched to requiring signed binary firmware with a blown

Re: [Arm-netbook] mali gpu reverse engineering lkcl may ignore

> if we proceed to reverse-engineer MALI, logically it results in > people buying more ARM products. > > if people buy more ARM products, logically it results in more money > (resources) going to support ARM's illegal and unethical actions. > > any action which is taken that results in support

Re: [Arm-netbook] Fwd: [trinity-devel] TDE Fundraiser

> Isn't that what will happen with X as soon as people get fanatical about > wayland like they have done with systemd? > > Thanks, > David > Nobody is getting fanatical over wayland. Wayland solves real problems with a rather small disturbance( drivers are almost the same, only applications are

Re: [Arm-netbook] Fwd: [trinity-devel] TDE Fundraiser

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > If I understand correctly, tiling window managers don't put windows on > top of one another. On my laptop that would mean I have crazily small > windows. > > -- hendrik i3 will open a window full screen, then

Re: [Arm-netbook] Fwd: [trinity-devel] TDE Fundraiser

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Neil Jansen wrote: >To lkcl's original quote "[TDE] is strategically quite important as > it's one of the remaining comprehensive desktop environments that is also > light-weight and relevant.", i3 and xmonad are more lightweight, and are >

Re: [Arm-netbook] DIY laptop part 1: screen

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:29 AM, David Niklas wrote: > > > If anyone has suggestions please point me in the right direction. > > Thanks, > David > > Could you potentially take a screen from an existing laptop and use that ? It's all 16:9 these days so I'm not sure what you mean

Re: [Arm-netbook] bunnie about riscv

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 3:26 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > this is why both the chinese and the russian governments now design > and make their own CPUs. in the case of china that's FROM SCRATCH. > and using only trusted foundries. > > l. > > I got a question:

Re: [Arm-netbook] Fwd: [trinity-devel] TDE Fundraiser

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Christopher Havel wrote: > > Luke: your thoughts, if any, on that new Budgie desktop environment? I > tried it, it's not very configurable (yet?) and it doesn't work with the > USB touchpad mouse on my homemade laptop (well, OK, it does on

Re: [Arm-netbook] Fwd: [trinity-devel] TDE Fundraiser

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > please do distribute to interested parties / lists, TDE (aka KDE 3.5) > is strategically quite important as it's one of the remaining > comprehensive desktop environments that is also light-weight and >

Re: [Arm-netbook] $150 taobao knock-off 3d printer doing 200mm/sec

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > > > i would have if i'd known! reddit appears to be very cl :) > and i love the mythbusters episode, especially. >

Re: [Arm-netbook] $150 taobao knock-off 3d printer doing 200mm/sec

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 5:49 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:25 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/6de5sv/ > looking_for_ways_to_maximise_the_mm_sec_metric/ > > > > ok so i

Re: [Arm-netbook] Building your own keyboard

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Christopher Havel wrote: > I'm not familiar with percentages being used to describe keyboards. Can you > explain? > 100%= full 104 keyboard TenKeyLess(TKL)= the full 104 without the numpad 60%= TKL without the modifiers on the right side

Re: [Arm-netbook] mali gpu reverse engineering lkcl may ignore

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 1:06 AM, wrote: > > > > I do not know if 3 people are interested or if they can agree on one > board. > You cannot get the mali source code faster, if you put more people on it? > Look at what happened to Luc Verhaegen. Arm has destroyed his

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > now that i think about it, i believe i heard of something about 20 > years ago called the humanist society (or something like that). > apparently they live their lives according to a really quite [humane]

Re: [Arm-netbook] I saw your recent update, Luke

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net> wrote: > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Bill Kontos <vkontog...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Indeed. I'm from the slack generation, > > ah so you've read their terms and conditions, then?

Re: [Arm-netbook] I saw your recent update, Luke

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:31 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com <mike.v...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 2017-05-09 12:55 GMT+02:00 zap <zap...@openmailbox.org>: > >> >> >> On 05/09/2017 04:32 AM, Bill Kontos wrote: >> >> Something that crossed my mind, does

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net> wrote: > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Bill Kontos <vkontog...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Nobody "believes" in science. > > sadly, they do. they're usually the ones who tell

Re: [Arm-netbook] I saw your recent update, Luke

Something that crossed my mind, does the lack of flash mean we can now update to kernels newer than 3.x ? On Apr 16, 2017 12:19 PM, "zap" wrote: > Just one question, > > I am assuming since there will be internal sd cards that your replacing > one or both of the internal

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

be surprised if they actually saw this coming and reacted before it happened. On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:54 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com <mike.v...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 2017-05-08 11:02 GMT+02:00 Bill Kontos <vkontog...@gmail.com>: > >> I think arm has open source kern

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

that multimedia decoding engine from the a20 ? On May 8, 2017 12:13 PM, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" <l...@lkcl.net> wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Bill Kontos <vkontog...@gmail.co

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

Yes, here they are https://developer.arm.com/products/software/mali-drivers/midgard-kernel On May 8, 2017 12:02 PM, "Bill Kontos" <vkontog...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think arm has open source kernel drivers but there is no way they will > get mainlined any time soon. The ques

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

Verhaegen is one of those selected individuals who had the luxury of getting all the shit of the world thrown at their face for trying to do the right thing. He was one of the leaders in pushing amd into mainlining gpu drivers( which they have been successful to and keep working on) and got shit

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

I think arm has open source kernel drivers but there is no way they will get mainlined any time soon. The question is, how much does the userland blob do and how much work needs to be done to get libre 2d accel. On May 8, 2017 7:47 AM, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" wrote: > --- >

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

The A72 is supposed to be as fast as a Core M Broadwell core at 2.5 ghz( assuming that the A72 maintains clockspeed while the Core M throttles, which is the case in most fanless laptops). The rk3399 is clocked at 2.0 ghz on the A72 cluster so it's slower but it has the benefit of the neon SIMD

Re: [Arm-netbook] More Libre Hardware Getting Funded

This is cool but a shame that they didnt contact Luke for using something like the a20 or wait for the rk3388 so we could have more money leverage on the soc and common ICs or even turn this into an eoma housing. On May 5, 2017 8:54 AM, "Allan Mwenda" wrote: >

Re: [Arm-netbook] The open risc v idea is good

There is currently a cartel going on on ram ICs. Once the chinese offered the last american ram producing company( I forget it's name) to move its production to China, ram pricing started climbing, the company is healthy again and we are still seeing price hikes, so China is for once investing in

Re: [Arm-netbook] The open risc v idea is good

http://rockchip.wikidot.com/rk3399 According to this the rk3399 has support on everything. Does that mean that it does not have any gpl violations or blobs required ? On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware:

Re: [Arm-netbook] libre 64-bit risc-v SoC

Out of curiosity has anyone ever attempted to prototype a hardware block based on evolution principles? Doing it on an fpga is probably a bad idea since we wont be able to implement the results in more copies but this could potentially also happen in a software simulation where the input and

Re: [Arm-netbook] libre 64-bit risc-v SoC

On self driving cars atm the driver is required to sit on the driver's position ready to engage the controls. The moment the driver touches the gas pedal the car is under his control. So the system is designed in such a way that the driver is actually in control. In the only accident so far in the

Re: [Arm-netbook] libre 64-bit risc-v SoC

This is the most interesting article I've read in a long time. Like machine learning but on an fpga... and analog!!! Comes to prove my hunch that the binary approach to computing is not the most optimal one. Analog might be hard but with enough investment it can give better results in the long

Re: [Arm-netbook] SoC warp soldering risk?

hmark once and show the result but do not test overheating. Totally not suitable for eoma, no matter how much of a sucker for high performance I am. On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net > wrote: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Bill Kontos <vkontog

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

That anime sounds intriguing I will check it out. On Apr 25, 2017 1:54 PM, "John Luke Gibson" wrote: > On 4/25/17, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:21 AM, John Luke Gibson > > wrote: > > > >> Well the

Re: [Arm-netbook] System 76 - Entering Phase 3

Well, you are not getting a quad core tho On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 5:12 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Allan Mwenda > wrote: > > I'd personally fund Thinkpenguin way before System76, just because they > > don't

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

Yea, unfortunately antipsychotic drugs are not good enough yet. Still the projected danger of not taking them and committing suicide or go on a killing spree over taking them and not committing suicide but live a lower quality life is higher. On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson

Re: [Arm-netbook] System 76 - Entering Phase 3

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Lyberta <lybe...@lyberta.net> wrote: > Bill Kontos: > > No, don't worry. I don't call names on anyone. As RMS said, I'm not glad > > that he died, but I'm glad that he's gone. I believe in the value of > human > > life above all

Re: [Arm-netbook] System 76 - Entering Phase 3

t; effort first they would never get to that point. On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Lyberta <lybe...@lyberta.net> wrote: > Bill Kontos: > > I'm tired of all the purists that will bash every company that does a > > step in the right direction but does not go all the way t

Re: [Arm-netbook] System 76 - Entering Phase 3

This discussion is of limited usefulness when it comes to system76 making laptop or desktop housings, because their laptops are not developed in-house, the cases, keyboards, trackpads and screens are outsourced from Clevo. If you want libre cards from them there is absolutely no way to convince

Re: [Arm-netbook] About, the rk processor.

Intel is on about the same ballpark as the big arm tablet chips but they can't shrink it any further. They got this low simply from node shrinks, but at this point making a new core design only for the tablet market would require very high sale volumes. And they failed to infiltrate the tablet

Re: [Arm-netbook] Logos

The second one look pretty nice. It gives me some more ideas too. I think it could use some symmetries, maybe on a circle. Time to revitalize my GIMP skills. I'll try to make something too. Besides logos are fun. On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Peter Carlson wrote: >

Re: [Arm-netbook] AMD considering releasing the PSP

Yea that's what I meant, sorry my bad. My question is, what physical form factor will the EOMA 200 cards have( that is, what will "house" the electronics) ? On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net > wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 7

Re: [Arm-netbook] AMD considering releasing the PSP

arm-netb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 15, 2017 11:42 AM, "Bill Kontos" <vkontog...@gmail.com> wrote: > > How is that going to work and how will end users be able to know that they > can't plug a 5+ watt card on a incompatible housing ? > > In the current stan

Re: [Arm-netbook] AMD considering releasing the PSP

; l...@lkcl.net> wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Bill Kontos <vkontog...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yea I guess 2400mhz ddr4l would consume about as much as 1600mhz ddr3l on > > the s

Re: [Arm-netbook] AMD considering releasing the PSP

. On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net > wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Bill Kontos <vkontog...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Yea it's

Re: [Arm-netbook] AMD considering releasing the PSP

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Bill Kontos <vkontog...@gmail.com> wrote: > The problem right now is that pretty much none of the arm SoC manufacturers > adds what is needed for supporting a full desktop/ laptop experience, that > is more than 4 gb of ram, sata3, general purpose pcie

Re: [Arm-netbook] AMD considering releasing the PSP

The problem right now is that pretty much none of the arm SoC manufacturers adds what is needed for supporting a full desktop/ laptop experience, that is more than 4 gb of ram, sata3, general purpose pcie lanes and more memory bandwidth for the igpu. Most of the arm chips right now are stuck at 64

Re: [Arm-netbook] AMD considering releasing the PSP

. Going completely free with risc v would be cool but that is years away. On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net > wrote: > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Bill Kontos <vkontog...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > asking for a full uncondition

Re: [Arm-netbook] AMD considering releasing the PSP

We don't need to have full utilization of PSP, just ignoring it at boot sequence and not running it at all would be just fine. On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x4hxu/we_are_amd_ >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm processors

Its a huge performance boost compared to the a20. I remember the gpd handheld with the same soc can run emulators with 3d accel up to approx ps2 levels of graphic requirements and even run windows 10 relatively smoothly. The CHIP community has managed to make ps1 games to run only with software

Re: [Arm-netbook] New Eoma68 housing idea

The Nyuzi website has a demo that renders 2300 triangles at 50mhz but there isn't any mention about the frames per second so I can't get a triangles per second result. 2017-02-17 19:23 GMT+02:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net>: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Bill Kontos

Re: [Arm-netbook] New Eoma68 housing idea

7 at 4:52 PM, Bill Kontos <vkontog...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is that the master plan you with Allwinner you mentioned somewhere else ? > > no it isn't. > > > I'm very interested with the idea. The mere idea that you managed to get > a > > new SoC going on on a

Re: [Arm-netbook] New Eoma68 housing idea

if such a small form factor wants to be successful it needs to have 3d. 2017-02-17 18:46 GMT+02:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net>: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Bill Kontos <vkontog...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Did you see the amount of money they raised ? The

Re: [Arm-netbook] New Eoma68 housing idea

Did you see the amount of money they raised ? They are sitting at over 900k$ out of 200k$ needed originally. There is an insane market for these devices that I totally didn't expect. I know their older product which was more of a retro gaming/console thing with analog controllers was hugely

Re: [Arm-netbook] New Eoma68 housing idea

You need to copy and paste the entire link, the part that goes on the next line doesn't get recognized as part of the link for some reason. 2017-02-17 15:27 GMT+02:00 Russell Hyer : > This page has disappeared or been moved, do you have the correct (new) URL? > > On 17