On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/kde_tablet/3dcase/microdesktop_6.png
top and bottom added: curved at the sides but not the front or back,
due to the fascia plates being too close to the edges (and straight,
so they could bend and th
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/kde_tablet/3dcase/microdesktop_5.png
so i've added in curved sides but the DXF files
(microdesktopcase_side.dxf) are generated based on the radius of the
arc (and then not displayed in the image abov
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Normand Chamberland wrote:
>
>
> 2017-03-31 7:14 GMT-04:00 jah :
>>
>>
>> I understand your frustration, Normand,
>
>
> You do not know me, jah, therefore you cannot possibly understand how
> *infuriated* I am. To say that I am still seething with cold fury would b
On 04/02/2017 06:17 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 10:51 PM, zap wrote:
>> I am really though glad you take this sort of thing seriously. We should
>> all thank you for such zeal towards keeping things "Libre"
> mmm... zeal's a dirty word, now :)
My bad...
>>
2017-03-31 7:14 GMT-04:00 jah :
>
> I understand your frustration, Normand,
>
You do not know me, jah, therefore you cannot possibly understand how
*infuriated* I am. To say that I am still seething with cold fury would be
an understatement.
Of course I know that Github is not the "ideal" channe
http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/kde_tablet/3dcase/microdesktop_4.png
ok so this is a view of the back (PCMCIA) slot, the microsd card slot
is on the bottom, the PCMCIA slot itself has been extended (on the
left) to cover the power-button, there is a separate cutout on the
right for the eject-button, a
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 10:51 PM, zap wrote:
> I am really though glad you take this sort of thing seriously. We should
> all thank you for such zeal towards keeping things "Libre"
mmm... zeal's a dirty word, now :)
> I hope you are successful Luke. And really, if normand sees this post, I
> hop
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Paul Boddie wrote:
> This should be the following, I think:
>
> http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/kde_tablet/3dcase/microdesktop_3.png
thanks paul (and marqueteur), i'm typing this in by hand so keep
getting it wrong...
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On 04/02/2017 05:51 PM, zap wrote:
>
> On 04/02/2017 04:55 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Normand Chamberland
>> wrote:
>>> 2017-03-31 5:47 GMT-04:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
normand, can you please not use non-free proprietary git service
On 02/04/17 11:27, Paul Boddie wrote:
> On Sunday 2. April 2017 23.05.25 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> ok so i've created corner-pieces which will need to be 3d-printed,
>> they contain slots for the PCB as well as for upright 1.5mm 3-ply
>> sides. the far corner near the PCMCIA eject but
On 04/02/2017 04:55 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Normand Chamberland
> wrote:
>>
>> 2017-03-31 5:47 GMT-04:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
>>> normand, can you please not use non-free proprietary git services for
>>> this project, it sends compl
On 02/04/17 11:05, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/kde_tablet/microdesktop_3.png
I get file not found, and can't find it in $eoma/(kde_tablet|microdesktop)
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On Sunday 2. April 2017 23.05.25 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> ok so i've created corner-pieces which will need to be 3d-printed,
> they contain slots for the PCB as well as for upright 1.5mm 3-ply
> sides. the far corner near the PCMCIA eject button needs some work /
> rethinking because
ok so i've created corner-pieces which will need to be 3d-printed,
they contain slots for the PCB as well as for upright 1.5mm 3-ply
sides. the far corner near the PCMCIA eject button needs some work /
rethinking because there's a cut-out in the PCB.
the cut-out is basically too far back, and tha
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Normand Chamberland wrote:
>
>
> 2017-03-31 5:47 GMT-04:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
>>
>> normand, can you please not use non-free proprietary git services for
>> this project, it sends completely the wrong message. please delete
>> that github repository
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Normand Chamberland wrote:
>
>
>> if you do not have a savannah or other libre hosting service please
>> send me an ssh public key and i will set you up with a gitolite
>> repository.
>
>
> No, right now I'm too fucking pissed off by your zealotry to do anything
>
On 31/03/17 11:34, Normand Chamberland wrote:
> FYI My repo had a README file for which content specifically said
>
> > This repository hosts my personal design files for the EOMA68 project. This
> > is not the official project repository.
>
> I fail to see how they could bring "disrepute" to it.s
2017-03-31 5:47 GMT-04:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
> normand, can you please not use non-free proprietary git services for
> this project, it sends completely the wrong message. please delete
> that github repository immediately, it brings the EOMA68 project's
> reputation into disrepute a
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 6:28 AM, Normand Chamberland wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 2017-03-30 21:36 GMT-04:00 Tor, the Marqueteur
> :
>>
>> This could be used in conjunction with a dado in the top and bottom
>> pieces and rabbetin
On 30/03/17 19:28, Normand Chamberland wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 2017-03-30 21:36 GMT-04:00 Tor, the Marqueteur
>
>
> If I understand you, you mean something like this?
>
> https://github.com/normandc/EOMA68/tree/master/Microdesktop/Images
That's exactly the direction I was thinking.
>
> Please no
Hello,
2017-03-30 21:36 GMT-04:00 Tor, the Marqueteur <
marquet...@fineartmarquetry.com>:
> This could be used in conjunction with a dado in the top and bottom
> pieces and rabbeting the sides. This would keep the unmarked top and
> bottom (with optional venting laser fretwork logos, etc.), and
On 30/03/17 12:00, Mark Van den Borre wrote:
> Hi Tor, hi list,
>
> 2017-03-30 23:04 GMT+02:00 Tor, the Marqueteur
> mailto:marquet...@fineartmarquetry.com>>:
>
> I haven't put my dial caliper on enough pieces of similar plywood to make
> a statement about normal variation due to manufact
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:02:36AM +0200, Mark Van den Borre wrote:
> Hello Hendrik,
>
> 2017-03-30 23:58 GMT+02:00 Hendrik Boom :
>
> > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:39:01AM -1000, Tor, the Marqueteur wrote:
> > >
> > > Thickness is where we lose all plywood moisture stability with the
> > > stacke
Hello Hendrik,
2017-03-30 23:58 GMT+02:00 Hendrik Boom :
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:39:01AM -1000, Tor, the Marqueteur wrote:
> >
> > Thickness is where we lose all plywood moisture stability with the
> > stacked option. 8 layers, 3mm thick = ~24mm thick, or a little less than
> > 1". As I po
Hi Tor, hi list,
2017-03-30 23:04 GMT+02:00 Tor, the Marqueteur <
marquet...@fineartmarquetry.com>:
> I haven't put my dial caliper on enough pieces of similar plywood to make
> a statement about normal variation due to manufacturing tolerances.
>
I have. The 3mm birch plywood we use usually stay
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:39:01AM -1000, Tor, the Marqueteur wrote:
>
> Thickness is where we lose all plywood moisture stability with the
> stacked option. 8 layers, 3mm thick = ~24mm thick, or a little less than
> 1". As I posted earlier, between someone living in a desert, and someone
> livi
I'm in North Carolina, USA. I guess mold and mildew aren't that big an
issue after all... like I said, I don't work with wood much.
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On 30/03/17 10:49, Christopher Havel wrote:
> Idiot question from someone who does not work with wood very often.
>
> Can't plywood, even little thin stuff like this, be sealed against
> moisture penetration? That stuff's gonna mold sooner or later otherwise,
> anyways...
>
Any finish is moisture
On 30/03/17 10:47, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:39 PM, Tor, the Marqueteur
>> Thickness is where we lose all plywood moisture stability with the
>> stacked option. 8 layers, 3mm thick = ~24mm thick, or a little less than
>> 1". As I posted earlier, between someo
Idiot question from someone who does not work with wood very often.
Can't plywood, even little thin stuff like this, be sealed against moisture
penetration? That stuff's gonna mold sooner or later otherwise, anyways...
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:39 PM, Tor, the Marqueteur
wrote:
> On 30/03/17 03:46, Vincent Legoll wrote:
>>> From a wood engineering standpoint I'd be in favour of looking into this.
>>> By using this method, wood movement with climate becomes negligible,
>>> which makes things a good deal easier t
On 30/03/17 03:46, Vincent Legoll wrote:
>> From a wood engineering standpoint I'd be in favour of looking into this.
>> By using this method, wood movement with climate becomes negligible,
>> which makes things a good deal easier there.
>
> We're talking about plywood here, and smallish pieces,
>> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91H9TOVowCL._SL1500_.jpg
>> (but hopefully with better looks!)
Hey look is subjective, I don't find this ugly. Let's keep simple for
the official
one and make a design challenge for artistic alternatives.
> From a wood engineering standpoint I'd
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Normand Chamberland wrote:
> 2017-03-30 6:21 GMT-04:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
>>
>> * the PCB will fall out of the casework (both ways, forwards and
>> backwards).
>
>
> Actually it won't. :-) It cannot slide frontward due to upper layers
> stopping the D
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Parobalth wrote:
> Hello Hendrik,
> Luke already replied that he always forgets it is "kde_tablet":
>
> http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/kde_tablet/3dcase/
i keep making the mistake so i've added a redirect note.
l.
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Hello Hendrik,
Luke already replied that he always forgets it is "kde_tablet":
http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/kde_tablet/3dcase/
Am 30.03.2017 2:26 nachm. schrieb "Hendrik Boom" :
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:21:36AM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> wrote:
> ...
> ...
> >
> > on the crude tec
2017-03-30 6:47 GMT-04:00 Vincent Legoll :
> For the sake of CAD-illiterate people like me, would it be hard or take
> much time to create some rendered pictures of the thing ?So that we
> can see with our eyes, and maybe spot a thing or two, or have ideas...
>
>
Sorry Vincent, since it was my fir
2017-03-30 6:21 GMT-04:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
> * the PCB will fall out of the casework (both ways, forwards and
> backwards).
>
Actually it won't. :-) It cannot slide frontward due to upper layers
stopping the DC/VGA ports. As for backwards it's more of an issue, only the
right back
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:21:36AM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
...
...
>
> on the crude technique i'm using, images microdesktop_1.png and
> microdesktop_2.png are here:
> http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/tablet/3dcase
It gives me a
Not Found
The requested URL /~lkcl/eoma/tablet/3dc
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 4:34 AM, Normand Chamberland wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thanks Mark. Just to give some context to these files:
>
> - This is a first draft. Even though Luke wrote he'd take care of it, I had
> already st
> Ah, that may be the answer to my first question above, but: 404, so
> I can't really tell.
kde_tablet. keep getting that wrong.
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On 29/03/17 17:34, Normand Chamberland wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thanks Mark. Just to give some context to these files:
>
> - There are 11 lasercut wood pieces. That's a lot. Is the layered design
> definitive (I guess that's what the backers will expect since that's
> what's shown on Crowd Supply), or
Hello,
Just throwing in my 2 cts, as I know nothing of CAD design...
> ha! cool! looks really good. i love the curves on the corners and
> the edges, if that shape can be retained i think it'll look absolutely
> stunning.
For the sake of CAD-illiterate people like me, would it be hard or tak
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On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:34 PM, Mark Van den Borre wrote:
> Hello Luke, list,
>
> This is work by Normand, FreeCAD expert and kickstarter backer:
>
> http://glasno.st/microdesktop_model2_normandc3.fcstd
> http://glasno
Hello,
Thanks Mark. Just to give some context to these files:
- This is a first draft. Even though Luke wrote he'd take care of it, I had
already started the process with Mark last week. I didn't spend more than a
couple of hours on this last night and I didn't calculate precise
clearances, the P
Hello Luke, list,
This is work by Normand, FreeCAD expert and kickstarter backer:
http://glasno.st/microdesktop_model2_normandc3.fcstd
http://glasno.st/microdesktop_layers_v1.dxf
Kind regards,
Mark
2017-03-28 9:58 GMT+02:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
> hiya mark (and list),
>
> i started
hiya mark (and list),
i started taking a look at creating case layers for the microdesktop,
and it's not as straightforward as it seems: creating a stack that
will ensure that the PCB doesn't drop out at one end is not as simple
as it first seems. so i'll take care of it.
l.
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Hello list, hello Normand,
2017-03-22 4:07 GMT+01:00 Normand Chamberland :
> On the manufacturing side, I wonder if it may be a good idea to check the
> real thickness of the 3mm plywood boards. Due to manufacturing tolerances,
> materials provided in sheets are often thinner than their nominal
t
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On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:07 AM, Normand Chamberland wrote:
> - USB connectors are 6.65mm high rather than 6
> - PJ-045 (thin tall one at rear extreme left?) is 11mm high rather than 9
> - VGA is 9mm
> - microSD slot (a
Forgot the link to the calculator for changing wood dimensions in
changing climates:
http://owic.oregonstate.edu/wood-shrinkswell-estimator
Tor
On 21/03/17 17:56, Tor, the Marqueteur wrote:
> On 21/03/17 17:07, Normand Chamberland wrote:
> ...snip...
>> On the manufacturing side, I wonder if it
On 21/03/17 17:07, Normand Chamberland wrote:
...snip...
> On the manufacturing side, I wonder if it may be a good idea to check the
> real thickness of the 3mm plywood boards. Due to manufacturing
> tolerances, materials provided in sheets are often thinner than their
> nominal thickness be it for
On 2017-03-21 23:45, Alexander Ross wrote :
heh well i dread to think how much javascript is loaded compared to
156kb file... so i dumped it at
https://transfer.sh/kvi63/microdesktop-model2-normandc1.fcstd for easy
china-net downloading, i hope. however it expires in 2weeks.
Thanks. Figured Gi
On 22/03/17 03:07, Normand Chamberland wrote:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8EXnjMkh8zVNXFvRjA5Qm0tSlU/view?usp=sharing
> (apologies for the Google hosting...)
heh well i dread to think how much javascript is loaded compared to
156kb file... so i dumped it at
https://transfer.sh/kvi63/microd
Hello Luke,
On 2017-03-20 at 02:04, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote :
the new USB connector is 6mm high
the VGA connector and PJ-045 (DC jack) i believe are both 9mm
the micro-sd card slot (on the bottom, other end) is 2mm
the EOMA68 (PCMCIA) is 6mm.
Could you confirm that your microdeskto
Hello Mark,
We had a short exchange on #freecad 2 days ago (my nick is normandc).
I'm mostly active on the FreeCAD forum. Let me know if you need help,
I'm pretty proficient with the GUI side of FreeCAD.
Cheers
Normand
On 2017-03-21 at 18:24, Mark Van den Borre wrote:
...of the board obviou
...of the board obviously. Even that took time fiddling with the (mesh)
stl...
Some very friendly people in irc.freenode.net#freecad helped me out.
Regards,
Mark
2017-03-21 23:23 GMT+01:00 Mark Van den Borre :
> Hello Luke, hello list,
>
> Here's a FreeCAD solid model:
>
> http://glasno.st/mic
Hello Luke, hello list,
Here's a FreeCAD solid model:
http://glasno.st/microdesktop_model2.fcstd
Kind regards,
Mark
2017-03-21 21:54 GMT+01:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Joseph Honold wrote:
> > On 03/21/2017 02:42 PM, Jonathan Frederickson wrote:
> >>
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Joseph Honold wrote:
> On 03/21/2017 02:42 PM, Jonathan Frederickson wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
>> wrote:
>>> ok done.
>>>
>>> http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/tablet/3dcase then you should find
>>> microdesktop_model2.stl
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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Jonathan Frederickson
wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> wrote:
>> ok done.
>>
>> http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/tablet/3dcase then you should find
>
On 03/21/2017 02:42 PM, Jonathan Frederickson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> wrote:
>> ok done.
>>
>> http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/tablet/3dcase then you should find
>> microdesktop_model2.stl
>
> http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/tablet/3dcase 404s here, and
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> ok done.
>
> http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/tablet/3dcase then you should find
> microdesktop_model2.stl
http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/tablet/3dcase 404s here, and
http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/microdesktop/ (which was my next gues
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Mark Van den Borre wrote:
>> Luke,
>>
>> First thing will be building a 3d model of the board using FreeCAD. Not very
>> easy to do accurately with the info I currently have. More photos and
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Mark Van den Borre wrote:
> Luke,
>
> First thing will be building a 3d model of the board using FreeCAD. Not very
> easy to do accurately with the info I currently have. More photos and
> dimensional information would certainly be welcome!
let me take care of t
Luke,
First thing will be building a 3d model of the board using FreeCAD. Not
very easy to do accurately with the info I currently have. More photos and
dimensional information would certainly be welcome!
I'll keep this list in the loop.
Kind regards,
Mark
2017-03-20 7:04 GMT+01:00 Luke Kennet
PLEASE KEEP ON-TOPIC on this subject, until at least 1st april, thx
question from mark so clarifying here, he asked "what mounting holes
can be used from the PCB" and there aren't any, mark.
the stack that was done 2 years ago the micro-desktop PCB was "loose"
inside the case, using close-fitting
hi i'd like to introduce mark, one of the fosdem staffers, who runs a
company http://lusis.eu and he has offered to do the micro-desktop
casework. however first thing that's needed is: GPLv3-licensed DXF
files!
now, these need to be done as 3mm stacks, so that will be something
like 7 separate DX
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