RE: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread Alex Robson
John Hull wrote: Example 3: Subjective Utility Most of the utility 'functions' occurring in neoclassical microeconomics...are not well defined--as Henri Poincare pointed out to Leon Walras. In fact, the only conditions required of them is that they be twice differentiable, the first derivative

Re: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread Mark D Isaacs
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Re: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread Christopher Auld
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, john hull quotes Mario Bunge: In short, THE USE OF UTILITY FUNCTIONS IS OFTEN MATHEMATICALLY SLOPPY AND EMPIRICALLY UNWARRANTED. It is an interesting regularity that some non-economists -- particularly philosophers and physicists, and Bunge is both -- seem to think even

Re: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread Marc . Poitras
The real charlatans in academia are the many frauds who build their whole careers by getting their names put on coauthored papers to which they have not legitimately contributed. Marc Poitras

Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread Robin Hanson
Imagine that a nation like the US were run like a corporation. To live (and vote) here, you'd have to own a share. You could sell your share and leave, and foreigners could come if they bought a share. The corporate management would be given financial incentives to maximize the market value

Re: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread AdmrlLocke
Does anyone think, at least in the excerpts we read, that the article attacked libertarian or libertarian-leaning economics as much as it attacked economics generally? David Levenstam

Re: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread Anton Sherwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real charlatans in academia are the many frauds who build their whole careers by getting their names put on coauthored papers to which they have not legitimately contributed. That's a sort of embezzlement; but `charlatan' implies that the *content* of the papers

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
Imagine that a nation like the US were run like a corporation. To live How would you enforce shareholder rights and monitor managers? For corporations inside nations, one could appeal to the state for law enforcement or start a lawsuit. What recourse do shareholders have in such a worlds?

Re: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread Fred Foldvary
--- john hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ALL CAPS lines are my emphasis. I think it is better to use other symbols, such as *caps*, since when they get copied, one may want to revert to u/l. NEO-AUSTRIAN ECONOMICS, EVEN CLAIM THAT THEIR THEORIES ARE TRUE A PRIORI. This means a priori to

Re: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
Does anyone think, at least in the excerpts we read, that the article attacked libertarian or libertarian-leaning economics as much as it attacked economics generally? David Levenstam It's typical to say that bad science is X, and my political opponents just happen to do X. IMO, it is

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread John A. Viator
These are very interesting questions! This would clearly affect the decision to have children in one of two ways (that I can think of): 1. Couples would have fewer children if they had to purchase a share for each child they had. 2. Couples would have more children if they were granted a

Re: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
The real charlatans in academia are the many frauds who build their whole careers by getting their names put on coauthored papers to which they have not legitimately contributed. That's a sort of embezzlement; but `charlatan' implies that the *content* of the papers is fraudulent. Anton

Re: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 8/14/02 1:47:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real charlatans in academia are the many frauds who build their whole careers by getting their names put on coauthored papers to which they have not legitimately contributed. That's a sort of

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread CyrilMorong
How would we know what price to charge for a share? Would the U.S. have a monopoly? Or would it compete with other nations? What would we do about people who try to sneak in without buying a share? Will people be required to proove at any time they own a share or be deported (or worse)?

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread Fred Foldvary
--- Robin Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imagine that a nation like the US were run like a corporation. To live (and vote) here, you'd have to own a share. You could sell your share and leave, and foreigners could come if they bought a share. The corporate management would be given

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread Robin Hanson
Cyril Morong wrote: How would we know what price to charge for a share? There's be an open market which would set prices. Would the U.S. have a monopoly? A monopoly on rights to live in the US, but other places are substitutes. What would we do about people who try to sneak in without buying

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread Robin Hanson
Fred Foldvary wrote: Imagine that a nation like the US were run like a corporation. To live (and vote) here, you'd have to own a share. You could sell your share and leave, and foreigners could come if they bought a share. The corporate management would be given financial incentives to

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread Robin Hanson
Fabio wrote: Imagine that a nation like the US were run like a corporation. To live How would you enforce shareholder rights and monitor managers? For corporations inside nations, one could appeal to the state for law enforcement or start a lawsuit. What recourse do shareholders have in such

Re: falling murder rates attributable to better trauma care?

2002-08-14 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 8/14/02 3:38:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a link to a NY Times article: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/12/national/12MURD.html?ex=1030256121ei=1en=4 ca972cf978300ff It refers to a study by Anthony R. Harris, published in the journal Homicide Studies. He

RE: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread Michael Etchison
fabio guillermo rojas: Similarly, I find that these articles that trash economics because it is psuedoscientific do the same - they obsess over the wording (the use of math) rather than think real hard about the intuitions behind things. Of course, there is always bad research hiding behind

Re: falling murder rates attributable to better trauma care?

2002-08-14 Thread john hull
A while back I heard an ex-military man and author claim that first-person video games do lead to gun violence. He made the claim that better medical care has has hidden the rise in gun violence by reducing the mortality rate. It does make intuitive sense, if one looks at murder per se. While

Re: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread john hull
--- Fred Foldvary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is better to use other symbols, such as *caps*, since when they get copied, one may want to revert to u/l. Sorry. Yahoo email doesn't give me many options. I was hesitant about yelling, which I guess is what all caps is. I'll try

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 8/14/02 3:37:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem is central planning. The US corporation would be a giant enterprise subject to the inefficiencies of any large organization. Also, minority interests would be overpowered as they are now. Would government spending

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread John A. Viator
It's not clear (to me, anyway.) If new people were extremely productive, it seems that managers may want to encourage that type of person to be born, so they may give parents free shares for the child. If new people aren't very productive, then giving away shares for free doesn't make much

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
Are state-enforced lawsuits really what keeps large multinational corporations honest now? If not, then the concept here is to use mechanisms similar to whatever large corporations now use. Robin Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hanson.gmu.edu Multinationals come in different flavors.

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread Fred Foldvary
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: minority interests would be overpowered as they are now. would be under similar special-interest influence Rereading the two passages, I wonder if there isn't a contraction. There is no contraction, but one could read into it a contradiction. However, the two

Re: charlatanism

2002-08-14 Thread Fred Foldvary
--- john hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given reasonable assumptions (axioms), does that mean that economic findings are valid without being 'scientific,' i.e. rigoriously tested? If the logic is valid and the premises true, then the conclusion is sound and therefore fully scientific.

Re: falling murder rates attributable to better trauma care?

2002-08-14 Thread david sandin
when I looked at theassault rates at the bureau of justice statistics homepage http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/aslt.htm

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread Wei Dai
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 01:24:12PM -0400, Robin Hanson wrote: Imagine that a nation like the US were run like a corporation. To live (and vote) here, you'd have to own a share. You could sell your share and leave, and foreigners could come if they bought a share. The corporate

Re: Nations as Corporations

2002-08-14 Thread Misha Gambarian
If we assume that most people of USA have exactly one share, then changes from current system are mostly in immigration law - citizenship is for sale, and people are rewarded if they leave country and drop citizenship. We can expect much more rich immigrants and huge increase in government (INS)