Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-08-01 Thread Shafqat Ayaz
From: richard@bwc.state.oh.us richard@bwc.state.oh.us To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 ** Given this description it brings up the question as to why you would NOT want it. Upgrades, etc

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-30 Thread Mueller, Doug
: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tom Shurmur Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 6:57 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 ** Howdy Listers, We are about to embark on upgrading from 7.6.04 to 8.1 on a windows platform using MS

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-30 Thread Longwing, Lj
Of *Tom Shurmur *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 6:57 PM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 ** ** ** Howdy Listers, We are about to embark on upgrading from 7.6.04 to 8.1 on a windows platform using MS-SQL. Has anyone used the No Downtime Upgrade

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-30 Thread Jason Miller
it is. ** ** Doug Mueller ** ** *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Tom Shurmur *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 6:57 PM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 ** ** ** Howdy Listers

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-30 Thread Longwing, Lj
:57 PM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 ** ** ** Howdy Listers, We are about to embark on upgrading from 7.6.04 to 8.1 on a windows platform using MS-SQL. Has anyone used the No Downtime Upgrade method that was presented at last year’s WWRUG

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-30 Thread Brian Pancia
PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 ** And to make it SUPER easy https://communities.bmc.com/ideas/1421 that's the link to the idea...all you need to do is go in and log in (if not already) and click the up arrow to cast your vote...I really didn't expect

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-30 Thread richard....@bwc.state.oh.us
) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mueller, Doug Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 ** Tom (and others who responded), The feature of zero-down time and the demonstration at WWRUG 2012 was a lab demo to show a concept that we had

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-30 Thread Rick Cook
vote? You’re almost there. Do it. *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Mueller, Doug *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:00 PM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 ** Tom (and others who responded

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-17 Thread laurent matheo
est System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tom ShurmurSent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:38 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1**Well, that is a bummer. But it's a cool idea if it ever comes fruition.Thank you all fo

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-17 Thread Karthik
likely you will still have some amount of downtime. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of teresa S Fannin Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:57 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-17 Thread Longwing, Lj
@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 There was that discussion at last year's rug where they pointed production to their failover area. Did the upgrade in production while everyone worked from the failover area and then switched back when the upgrade was complete.More steps

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-17 Thread Karthik
) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of teresa S Fannin Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:57 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 There was that discussion at last year's rug where they pointed production to their failover area. Did the upgrade in production while

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Longwing, Lj
Rick, They were VERY careful to state at RUG last year that the code demonstrated was NOT in ANY code line available to the publicso no, it's NOT in 8.1, it is under consideration for a future release, but not in any currently available to the public release. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:32 PM,

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Rick Cook
Might want to check the 8.1 documentation on that, LJ. Rick On Jul 16, 2013 6:04 AM, Longwing, Lj llongw...@usgs.gov wrote: ** Rick, They were VERY careful to state at RUG last year that the code demonstrated was NOT in ANY code line available to the publicso no, it's NOT in 8.1, it is

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Longwing, Lj
can you point me to the URL that discusses 'zero downtime upgrades'? I know that 8.1 wasn't released at last years rug, it was just 8.0, but I know that after the RUG David posted an idea ( https://communities.bmc.com/ideas/1421) that is in a status of 'Under Consideration'when they are

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Downing, Ryan
Upgrade to 8.1 ** can you point me to the URL that discusses 'zero downtime upgrades'? I know that 8.1 wasn't released at last years rug, it was just 8.0, but I know that after the RUG David posted an idea (https://communities.bmc.com/ideas/1421) that is in a status of 'Under Consideration'when

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Rick Cook
Well, either there is a huge conspiracy that involved wholesale changes to documents I read, or my memory is playing tricks on me. I'm going with the conspiracy. Nah, just kidding. Must have been something I inferred from the overlay enhancements in 8.1. Darn. Rick On Jul 16, 2013 6:38 AM,

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Tom Shurmur
Well, that is a bummer. But it's a cool idea if it ever comes fruition.  Thank you all for you help. Tom From: Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 ** Well, either

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO
to 8.1 ** Well, that is a bummer. But it's a cool idea if it ever comes fruition. Thank you all for you help. Tom From: Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 ** Well

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread teresa S Fannin
-Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:49 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 The only zero down time upgrade I am aware

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Brian Pancia
: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:57 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 There was that discussion at last year's rug where they pointed production to their failover area. Did the upgrade in production while everyone worked from the failover area and then switched back when

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Longwing, Lj
-Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:49 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 The only zero down time upgrade I am aware

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Samuel J Albury III
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Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Brian Pancia
Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 There was that discussion at last year's rug where they pointed production to their failover area. Did the upgrade in production while everyone worked from the failover area and then switched back when the upgrade was complete.More steps than

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-16 Thread Brock, Anne
(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Longwing, Lj Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:07 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 ** Brian, It was actually really cool to watch the demo, they had it fully functional. You needed a server group, you make all of your

7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-15 Thread Tom Shurmur
Howdy Listers,   We are about to embark on upgrading from 7.6.04 to 8.1 on a windows platform using MS-SQL. Has anyone used the No Downtime Upgrade method that was presented at last year’s WWRUG to move from 7.6.04 to 8.1? If so, was it smooth or bumpy ride?   We will be standing up a test system

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-15 Thread Rick Cook
Tom, I think that upgrade requires an 8.x platform to start with. The 7.6x metadata isn't set up to be overlaid. Rick On Jul 15, 2013 6:57 PM, Tom Shurmur tsrem...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Howdy Listers, ** ** We are about to embark on upgrading from 7.6.04 to 8.1 on a windows platform

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-15 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Tom, If you're talking about the No Downtime session presented by BMC, it's not something that exists yet. It's something RD is working on for the future. They wanted to see what kind of feedback that would have as sort of a litmus test. I could be wrong but that was my takeaway. Doug M was in

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-15 Thread Rick Cook
No, Tauf, they have the code in 8.1. But I don't think you can make that work unless you are upgrading FROM 8.1, not TO it. Rick On Jul 15, 2013 7:29 PM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote: ** Tom, If you're talking about the No Downtime session presented by BMC, it's not something

Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

2013-07-15 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Oh wow. Didn't know that. Wonder if it will work :) Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com wrote: ** No, Tauf, they have the code in 8.1. But I don't think you can make that work unless you are upgrading FROM 8.1, not TO it. Rick On Jul 15, 2013 7:29