Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-02 Thread Randeep Atwal
If you have restarted all of your arservers, without the right settings, all of your mid-tiers might be still connecting to just the first ARServer you started up. one way to trigger a rebalance is to click on 'Balance Now' from the mid-tier config pages. May I ask how are you determining an even

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-02 Thread Thomas Miskiewicz
Thank you all for your valuable contributions! We asked to remove the persistence on the LB and we no see an even distribution of users on all AR Server. https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/ars81/Configuring+a+load+balancer+with+a+firewall%2C+web+servers%2C+a+second+load+balancer%2C+and+mul

Re: OT: Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread LJ LongWing
Jason, You are correct, Jetty running on port 8008, or whatever port they are on certainly needs it's own LB depending on the need of the client in place. If HA is needed, LB makes sense. Regardless of if you are talking about Remedy Restful services or CMDB Restful services...depending on the HA

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread LJ LongWing
But you can see in the screenshot that the maximum for each is in the 30's, so from that it seems to me that the LB is able to recognize unique individuals coming across and not treating the Mid-Tier server as a whole as a single userbut I do agree with you that there is 0 reason to have the 3

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi, So if you have say 4 mid-tiers and 4 remedy-servers and 100 users. The first load balancer will dirstribute the 100 users to something like 25 per mid-tier server. The load balancer between mid-tiers and the remedy-servers will see only 4 "users", which is the 4 mid-tiers. It is not inposs

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread LJ LongWing
Node 3 seems to be used 50% more than node 1, but agreed that everything seems like it's getting traffic You still haven't identified what sort of monitor is in use, and if node 1 goes down/offline at any point...I'll give you a scenario all 3 getting normal load, but node 1 goes offline, eit

OT: Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread Jason Miller
I'll also use this thread as an opportunity for a new discussion related to load balancing. Is anybody aware of any docs that pertain to load balancing Jetty on AR Server? The REST API has been hosed here for a few years but that wasn't user-facing (but should be able to setup redundancy). The new

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread Thomas Miskiewicz
They don’t have logging running because of the massive data load. But the LB guy sent me the attached screenshot saying that it shows that all three nodes get an equal amount of requests. If they really do, the I wonder why on one of the nodes I only see 2, 3 users and and on the others an equa

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread LJ LongWing
n page instead of the SAML > redirect until we clear cache. > > > > Perhaps a problem with apptier load balancing? > > > -- > *From:* ARSList on behalf of Randeep Atwal < > ratwals...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 11

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread Kevin M Candelaria
authentication page instead of the SAML redirect until we clear cache. Perhaps a problem with apptier load balancing? From: ARSList on behalf of Randeep Atwal Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:43 AM To: ARSList Subject: Re: Loadbalancer traffic

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread Thomas Miskiewicz
I reviewed that info before posting here but don’t really see room for change. Do you? > On Feb 1, 2018, at 5:43 PM, Randeep Atwal wrote: > > From the Mid-Tier side, you also might want to review your setttings as > described here to work with the load balancer settings: > > https://docs.bmc.

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread Randeep Atwal
>From the Mid-Tier side, you also might want to review your setttings as described here to work with the load balancer settings: https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/ars81/Configuring+the+mid+tier+connection+pool https://docs.bmc.com/docs/brid91/en/configuring-the-mid-tier-connection-pool-610

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread Aspari Sunil Kumar
There isn't much can be done in mid tier.this is purely LB team need to analyse what is going wrong . Need to sit with them and see why all the connections are going to one server in reality with the help of logs.. we had strange problem recently that on 2 AR servers we used to see same set of user

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread LJ LongWing
I've always preferred to use least connections personally, but from what I've read of the docs they recommend round robinbut round robin doesn't explain how your LB would be putting everyone on one node...it should literally go 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3 for new connections, and as you discussed, keep yo

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread Thomas Miskiewicz
Hey LJ and thank you for the prompt reply. Talked to them already. We’re using round robin. I’m not an expert on LB but my understanding was that we would have about an equal amount of users on all AR Servers using it. The guy explained that once you connect there is a time out of 180 seconds.

Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

2018-02-01 Thread LJ LongWing
Thomas, You'll need to work with the LB team to identify what distribution method they are usingcommon options are 'round robin' in which it just simply points everything at each server in turn, 'least connections' where it tries to analyze how many are 'currently' connected to each node and se