From: "Shane G"
Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 10:32 AM
Once upon a time (prior to softcopy manuals) we had a (new) manager dictate a
"clean desk" policy. Might have been initiated by looking at the team I was
in, who knows ...
The rule was "no more than 2 manuals on anyones desk".
You have
On Wed, Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:07 AM, David Cole wrote:
> Way back in the 1960's when I first endeavored to learn "Assembler"
> (a vague term, at best), I found that what generally was supplied by
> one or two manuals in any other language, required at lest 5 or 6 for
> Assembler! And that was 45 yea
On 8/23/2011 5:03 PM, David Cole wrote:
You still print the manuals Why?
I do not print manuals, but I do have a library containing
reasonably current material, and some scant MVS and OS/360
stuff. For quick references I have a CD set, which until
recently was faster than going on-line.
Ba
At 8/23/2011 03:29 PM, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
The printed manual is getting to be unwieldy. I could see having
it split into two, or possibly three, volumes:
You still print the manuals Why?
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On 8/23/2011 2:14 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
I believe that the PoOP should or could stay like it is, because
the normal
use is not as a tutorial for learning ASSEMBLER or machine
architecture,
but to make clear some difficulties or peculiarities of seldom used
instructions,
at least in my case.
I believe that the PoOP should or could stay like it is, because the normal
use is not as a tutorial for learning ASSEMBLER or machine architecture,
but to make clear some difficulties or peculiarities of seldom used
instructions,
at least in my case.
For learning ASSEMBLER, I would use the follo
Once upon a time I opened a manual at the index or TOC page...
Today I do (or wish to do) a tag search to find the best fitting JCL
example, some code snippet, an illustration.
Then I look at how it is built and test my understanding how it does what it
is supposed to do. I take note of warnings
I do not wish to single Martin Trübner out, but the notion that the PrOp is too
big or notably ill-organized is, I think, ridiculous. It has met my needs as I
have had to learn about a good many new and extended instructions in recent
years.
It is a reference, i.e., not a tutorial, publicatio
At 8/23/2011 11:07 AM, David Cole wrote:
- And oh yes, you were asking about the return codes from OPEN...
That would be in:
- "z/OS MVS Diagnosis: Reference" (GA22-7588)
Well... While there is some SVC return code information in the
Diagnsis Reference, the main resource for this inform
At 8/23/2011 10:28 AM, Thomas Berg wrote:
Talking about manuals for the asm programmer: where do I find the
return codes from the OPEN macro (SVC 22)
Hi Tom,
Way back in the 1960's when I first endeavored to learn "Assembler"
(a vague term, at best), I found that what generally was supplied b
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:28:32 +0200 Thomas Berg
wrote:
:>Talking about manuals for the asm programmer: where do I find the return
codes from the OPEN macro (SVC 22) ?
:>(I'm assembler coding impaired...)
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> On 8/23/2011 8:28 AM, Thomas Berg wrote:
> > Talking
On 8/23/2011 8:28 AM, Thomas Berg wrote:
Talking about manuals for the asm programmer: where do I find the return codes
from the OPEN macro (SVC 22) ?
(I'm assembler coding impaired...)
:)
Regards,
Thomas Berg
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Talking about manuals for the asm programmer: where do I find the return codes
from the OPEN macro (SVC 22) ?
(I'm assembler coding impaired...)
:)
Regards,
Thomas Berg
_
Thomas Berg Specialist A M SWEDBANK
I am using Daves citation to illustrate what I wanted (in a spin off
named "A new POP")
Would it realy be that hard to create a
text-reader-interpreter-showerhave code that would deliver this
when looking for LH:
For LH the first operand is treated as a 32-bit signed binary integer.
or this when
I am out of the office until 08/29/2011.
I will be out of the office. If you needed to contact me call me on my cell
phone and email me too.
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On 8/23/2011 3:55 AM, Ken Brick wrote:
On 23/08/2011 07:05 AM, Steve Comstock wrote:
On 8/22/2011 2:29 PM, John Walker wrote:
In regards to the comments about IBM assembler manuals:
The biggest issue for me is that NONE of their manuals
in pdf or tso datasets have any easy connectivity.
You m
(corrected formatting. sorry)
At 8/23/2011 07:12 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
Personally, I think the POP has gotten too big. It's over 1400 pages
and growing. I also agree with an earlier poster that I had rather
see less combining of instructions as sometimes the exceptions get lost.
Absolutely!
At 8/23/2011 07:12 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
Personally, I think the POP has
gotten too big. It's over 1400 pages and growing. I also agree with an
earlier poster that I had rather see less combining of instructions as
sometimes the exceptions get lost.
Absolutely!
Here is a typical PoOP paragaph:
Mike,
FYI and FWIW: XDC has explicit and powerful support for debugging
authorized code. It's had that support for several decades...
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> In all the languages, Assembler, Cobol, PL/1 and REXX, we have a usage
> guide, that tells us how to "run" the source program, and a reference
> guide that rells us about the language elements.
Ken,
I think the problem is the initial concept of "what is assembler
language?". The machine instru
On 23/08/2011 07:05 AM, Steve Comstock wrote:
On 8/22/2011 2:29 PM, John Walker wrote:
In regards to the comments about IBM assembler manuals:
The biggest issue for me is that NONE of their manuals
in pdf or tso datasets have any easy connectivity.
You mean to each other? I'm not sure what 'co
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