Re: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 12 Feb 2013 to 14 Feb 2013 (#2013-25)

2013-02-15 Thread John Walker
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Instruction Lists/Counts.

2013-02-15 Thread Gibney, Dave
I am doing a high (very high) level presentation for my managers who have no MF experience. I want a simple slide. Something like: IBM architecture is not RISC, there are nnn instructions. nnn Privileged nnn General nnn Decimal nnn Cryptographic etc. I've Googled and looked at some of the

Re: Instruction Lists/Counts.

2013-02-15 Thread Abe Kornelis
Dave, thank you for mentioning hlasm.com. There is no straightforward way of counting instructions. There are many ways to count them, many criteria by which to discern or categorize them. I have tried to present the instruction lists with options to include/exclude various (sub)categories, but

Re: Instruction Lists/Counts.

2013-02-15 Thread glen herrmannsfeldt
Instructions are hard to count, though instruction count isn't a very good way to determine CISCness. RISC tends to have a small number of instruction lengths, often 1. S/360 through z/ have three lengths. Not too CISCy, but not RISC. (VAX might have 14 or so, from one byte on up.) RISC tends to

SV: Instruction Lists/Counts.

2013-02-15 Thread Thomas Berg
A link: http://www.realworldtech.com/z196-mainframe/ Regards Thomas Berg Thomas Berg Specialist z/OS/IT Delivery SWEDBANK AB (Publ) -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Assembler List

Re: Instruction Lists/Counts.

2013-02-15 Thread David de Jongh
There are tables of instructions in Appendix B of the PrOps manual. You can cut and paste into a text file, then open in Excel and do a convert text to columns. I last did this in 2002, when there were 428 machine instructions. I imagine it has escalated considerably since then. The tables have

Re: SV: Instruction Lists/Counts.

2013-02-15 Thread Steve Comstock
On 2/15/2013 2:57 PM, Thomas Berg wrote: A link: http://www.realworldtech.com/z196-mainframe/ Very nice. And page 3 answers part of the OPs question and reframes the other parts (or could be used to do that). Regards Thomas Berg

Re: Instruction Lists/Counts.

2013-02-15 Thread Robin Vowels
From: glen herrmannsfeldt Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2013 7:51 AM Instructions are hard to count, though instruction count isn't a very good way to determine CISCness. RISC tends to have a small number of instruction lengths, often 1. S/360 through z/ have three lengths. Not too CISCy, The