Re: 64 bit question

2013-06-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:56:12 -0400 Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: :As a vendor I won't assume ..I have customers who still think we should write our code in 24 bit mode. So don't get me started. I know your right from my experience , but I would rather be safe than sorry Ah, the

Re: 64 bit question

2013-06-14 Thread Peter Relson
As Tom Marchant pointed out, all supported z/OS releases (and those from z/OS 1.6 onward) require z/Architecture and support 64-bit virtual. Customers do not enable 64-bit functionality on such releases; it cannot be (fully) disabled Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design

Re: 64 bit question

2013-06-14 Thread Sharuff Morsa3
Scott mentions customers and 24-bit and yestedrday Paul Gilmartin mention 'during the transition from 370 to XA' and... I'm interested about what assembler code 'out there' (zOS,zVM or zVSE) still contained (probably as dual code path?) XA or 370 or 390 only code path/instructions - and why. I

24 or 31 (was :64 bit question)

2013-06-14 Thread Martin Truebner
Sharuff, I'm interested about what assembler code 'out there' (zOS,zVM or zVSE) still contained (probably as dual code path?) XA or 370 or 390 only code path/instructions - and why. 24 - 31 - XA (btw: what part is XA) is the sequence of things that became available of the MF and IBM did an

Re: 24 or 31 (was :64 bit question)

2013-06-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2013-06-14, at 07:45, Martin Truebner wrote: ... (if the area above the bar is exhausted). ... Incredible! How does this happen? Is there any operation that requires storage above the bar and fails if attempted using storage below the bar? (Excluding code artificially designed to operate

Re: 64 bit question

2013-06-14 Thread Phil Smith III
John McKown wrote: Why not just try to get memory above the line, using IARST64 REQUEST=GET, and check the return code? What if the machine is out of memory above the line? (JOKE) Hum, I really find bit 7 amusing. What does STFLE set that bit to when STFLE is not available. No, wait, what?

Re: 24 or 31 (was :64 bit question)

2013-06-14 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/14/2013 7:03 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On 2013-06-14, at 07:45, Martin Truebner wrote: ... (if the area above the bar is exhausted). ... Incredible! How does this happen? By coding too small a MEMLIMIT value. Happens all the time... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International,

Re: 64 bit question

2013-06-14 Thread Scott Ford
Peter, This is my first adventure into the 64bit world. So I am sure you can understand my caution with customers z/os systems. I wasn't aware that the feature couldn't be turned off. My issue is more trying to allocate a 64 bit storage and it failing ...I appreciate everyone's help. Scott