-BIT */
I would expect this to be second nature to just about everybody on this list.
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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:29:13 -0400
From: scott_j_f...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: 64 bit question
To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Thanks Peter and Lizette ...the clarification is excellent much
, CONTINUE */
GET31 STORAGE /* FALL BACK TO 31-BIT */
I would expect this to be second nature to just about everybody on this list.
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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:29:13 -0400
From: scott_j_f...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: 64 bit question
To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Thanks Peter and Lizette
ZMan
it took me some time to find an answer without when I
here is one:
I remember when we only had two bits.
Still is- the condition-code in z-Series
--
Martin
Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE
more at http://www.picapcpu.de
God, I remember half word instructions because I only had 16k to work in
..probably the 1401 guys had less
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Martin Truebner mar...@pi-sysprog.de wrote:
ZMan
it took me some
From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:47 AM
God, I remember half word instructions because I only had 16k to work in
..probably the 1401 guys
had less
Many early machines had less.
Pilot ACE and DEUCE had 384 words --
and of those, only 256 words could be
Robin,
Man..that pretty small...probably when they came out it it was huge
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:39 PM, robin robi...@dodo.com.au wrote:
From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 18,
Apologies for the post without subject. I hope anyone adding to it or
responding to it supplies one.
The intended subject was Re: 64 bit question.
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
Thanks for the clarification
Lizette
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System will always be able to answer a request
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:56:12 -0400 Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:
:As a vendor I won't assume ..I have customers who still think we should write
our code in 24 bit mode. So don't get me started. I know your right from my
experience , but I would rather be safe than sorry
Ah, the
As Tom Marchant pointed out, all supported z/OS releases (and those from
z/OS 1.6 onward) require z/Architecture and support 64-bit virtual.
Customers do not enable 64-bit functionality on such releases; it cannot
be (fully) disabled
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
=swg21577670 - for HLASM
requirements
http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21595123 - for HLASM readers
comments
Date:Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:56:12 -0400
.From:Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: 64 bit question
John,
As a vendor I won't assume ..I have customers who still think
(vendor code) is a different animal IMHO.
Just answering the original 64 bit question (from my VSE tower): System
will always be able to answer a request for 64 bit - If you make it
conditional it will tell you that it resolved from below the bar (if
the area above the bar is exhausted). Scott, what
On 2013-06-14, at 07:45, Martin Truebner wrote:
... (if the area above the bar is exhausted). ...
Incredible! How does this happen?
Is there any operation that requires storage above the bar
and fails if attempted using storage below the bar?
(Excluding code artificially designed to operate
John McKown wrote:
Why not just try to get memory above the line, using IARST64 REQUEST=GET,
and check the return code?
What if the machine is out of memory above the line? (JOKE)
Hum, I really find bit 7 amusing. What does STFLE set that bit to when
STFLE is not available. No, wait, what?
On 6/14/2013 7:03 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On 2013-06-14, at 07:45, Martin Truebner wrote:
... (if the area above the bar is exhausted). ...
Incredible! How does this happen?
By coding too small a MEMLIMIT value. Happens all the time...
--
Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software International,
Peter,
This is my first adventure into the 64bit world. So I am sure you can
understand my caution with customers z/os systems. I wasn't aware that the
feature couldn't be turned off. My issue is more trying to allocate a 64 bit
storage and it failing ...I appreciate everyone's help.
Scott
Why not just try to get memory above the line, using IARST64 REQUEST=GET,
and check the return code?
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2A9B0/4.1
Or, you might check the CVTV64 bit in the CVTOSLV2 flag field of the CVT
(CVT macro), after checking that FLCARCH is
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Why not just try to get memory above the line, using IARST64 REQUEST=GET, and
check
Of John McKown
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:08 PM
To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: 64 bit question
Why not just try to get memory above the line, using IARST64 REQUEST=GET,
and check the return code?
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2A9B0/4.1
Not sure I have a machine I can try that on. Looks like a trap.
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On 6/13/2013 9:45 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
After reading through the Extended Addressability Guide/ref I have a question..
How do I tell if a machine will support 64 bit storage above the bar ? I mean
like a Assembler macro query ..I want to use 64bit storage but I don't know to tell
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Subject: Re: 64 bit question
Why not just try to get memory above the line, using IARST64 REQUEST=GET, and
check the return code?
http
Are we not talking about a rather small, even exiguous, population of
mainframes under z/OS that do not make AMODE(64) virtual storage
available?
Its unmediated, direct use by applications may still be exiguous too,
but its mediated use by DB2 and the like is now substantial.
John Gilmore,
On 13 June 2013 13:19, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
Hum, I really find bit 7 amusing. What does STFLE set that bit to when
STFLE is not available. No, wait, what?
If you didn't get this message, please let us know immediately.
Tony H.
John,
As a vendor I won't assume ..I have customers who still think we should write
our code in 24 bit mode. So don't get me started. I know your right from my
experience , but I would rather be safe than sorry
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite
, I've heard
enough already!. So, you're right. Let's not get started!
Duffy
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Subject: Re: 64 bit
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:14:25 +, Randy Schafer wrote:
STFLE FUNCTION
That's no good. IIRC, STFLE became available on the z9. You can check
those bits in the PSA. MVS issues STFL or STFLE to save the information
at location 200 (X'C8')
If you're running on a z9, the hardware supports
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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 9:46 AM
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Subject: 64 bit question
All,
After reading through the Extended Addressability Guide/ref I have a question..
How do I tell if a machine will support 64 bit storage above the bar ? I mean
like
I am currently out of the office.
I will return Thursday
Ron Root is in charge in my place.
rr...@informatica.com
512 795 6923
Thanks,
Joey
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Subject: 64 bit question
All,
After reading through the Extended Addressability Guide/ref I have a
question..
How do I tell if a machine will support 64 bit storage above the bar ? I
mean
like
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