Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-27 Thread Craig Guy
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP?? Damn. I'm using spandsp0.0.2pre15 and asterisk 1.0.7 with a single span card (US PRI) and I can get it to work about 85% of the time on a single 1 paged fax. I count a failed fax if any of the tiff images don't look like the original. I

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-27 Thread Rich Adamson
On April 26, 2005 10:57 am, Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote: We have terrible problems sending faxes via the TDM cards. Not even using SpanDSP. Just TE110P for the telco side and TDM400P for the fax machine. Yes there is a timing issue that crept in somewhere in the last 12-15

Re: [Re] Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-27 Thread Steve Underwood
Hi Cyril, Good work. process_baud is a fairly big routine, and your backtrace doesn't give the actual line number at which things fall over. However, studying the code I see that I do not protect against the possibility of a divide by zero during the initial coarse carrier estimation of any of

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-27 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On April 27, 2005 09:04 am, Rich Adamson wrote: I would sort of disagree with the spiking thingie (now). If you modify the zttest app to provide timing output in terms of seconds and microseconds, you don't see the spiking impacting those measurements. Rather, you see 8,192 bytes arriving in

Re: [Re] Re: [Re] Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-27 Thread Steve Underwood
Cyril VELTER wrote: I just installed it and will keep you informed if a new crash occur, but even with pre15, crash where not very frequent and usually come in series (~ one serie of 3/4 crashes every two weeks, so we might have to wait some time...). I'm pretty happy with the receiving side

[Re] Re: [Re] Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-27 Thread Cyril VELTER
Hi Steve, Good work. process_baud is a fairly big routine, and your backtrace doesn't give the actual line number at which things fall over. However, studying the code I see that I do not protect against the possibility of a divide by zero during the initial coarse carrier

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-27 Thread Rich Adamson
Cross posting on purpose to transition the thread to -dev The issue in this thread is the frame transfer rate for the TDM analog card almost always exceeds the 1.000 seconds expected by the design. The frame transfer rate seldem impacts voice (the missed frames aren't noticed), but seriously

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Steve Underwood
Why would you expect a bunch of fax modems to work any better than spandsp? If spandsp doesn't work reliably your system is very likely broken. I have had hundreds of complaints about spandsp reliability. I have analysed at least 50 or 60 audio logs. I have found maybe 5 or 6 which has real

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On April 26, 2005 08:12 am, Steve Underwood wrote: Why would you expect a bunch of fax modems to work any better than spandsp? If spandsp doesn't work reliably your system is very likely broken. I've had spandsp crash out on some kind of floating point error about a half dozen times over

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Julian J. M.
Hi Steve, I sent a mail to this list a week ago regarding exactly this issue. Spandsp doesn't work for me (getting 200rows tiffs), but sending and receiving faxes through a FXS-FXO bridge (a TDM11B) works without problems. My motherboard is based an Aopen AK33 (VIA686a chipset, KT133, 700Mhz

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread W. Kevin Hunt
Of Steve Underwood Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:13 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP?? Why would you expect a bunch of fax modems to work any better than spandsp? If spandsp doesn't work reliably your

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Steve Underwood
Hi Andrew, If you can catch one of these events, and get a traceback of the stack, I will take a look. This is not happening to most users, so it must be some specific combination of things on your machine. I have reports of high volume faxing running for extended periods from some users.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Steve Underwood
Hi Julian, Sounds like a frame slip problem if the result depends on the source. Most people, including me, have trouble with the TDM cards. They worked without problem when I was first developing the FAX software in spandsp, so I assume the TDM driver has gathered bugs since that time.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Rich Adamson
As Steve has mentioned several times, it seems the TDM-fxo boards have an issue with missed frames that no one is addressing. Very few (if any) TDM users have been able to make spandsp function correctly, and the few that might have it working don't know why. Having played around some with zttest

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 08:57 -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On April 26, 2005 08:12 am, Steve Underwood wrote: Why would you expect a bunch of fax modems to work any better than spandsp? If spandsp doesn't work reliably your system is very likely broken. I've had spandsp crash out on some

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 14:11 +0100, Julian J. M. wrote: Hi Steve, I sent a mail to this list a week ago regarding exactly this issue. Spandsp doesn't work for me (getting 200rows tiffs), but sending and receiving faxes through a FXS-FXO bridge (a TDM11B) works without problems. My

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 08:34 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: As Steve has mentioned several times, it seems the TDM-fxo boards have an issue with missed frames that no one is addressing. Very few (if any) TDM users have been able to make spandsp function correctly, and the few that might have it

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On April 26, 2005 09:47 am, Adam Goryachev wrote: I was under the impression that pretty much all of these problems were usually traced to the version of libtiff that was in use... Perhaps you should try to track it down/solve the problem rather than patch it over? Nope; it's not a tiff issue;

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Colin Anderson
Having played around some with zttest (modifying the code to better understand the issues), it would appear the TDM card consumes about 1.02 seconds to obtain one second of data. That would suggest the I would like to chime in with my experience: We are trying to use SpanDSP off of a PRI to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Eric Wieling aka ManxPower
We have terrible problems sending faxes via the TDM cards. Not even using SpanDSP. Just TE110P for the telco side and TDM400P for the fax machine. Steve Underwood wrote: Hi Julian, Sounds like a frame slip problem if the result depends on the source. Most people, including me, have trouble

[Re] Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Cyril VELTER
If you can catch one of these events, and get a traceback of the stack, I will take a look. This is not happening to most users, so it must be some specific combination of things on your machine. I have reports of high volume faxing running for extended periods from some users. Hi

Re: [Re] Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On April 26, 2005 11:07 am, Cyril VELTER wrote: #0 0x010025ab in process_baud () from /usr/local/lib/libspandsp.so.0 #1 0x01001bd6 in v27ter_rx () from /usr/local/lib/libspandsp.so.0 That looks like exactly what I was seeing. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On April 26, 2005 10:57 am, Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote: We have terrible problems sending faxes via the TDM cards. Not even using SpanDSP. Just TE110P for the telco side and TDM400P for the fax machine. Yes there is a timing issue that crept in somewhere in the last 12-15 months; I

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Julian J. M.
Hello Colin, Did setting the latency timer really helped? What latency do you set for the rest of pci devices? just 0? Julian J. M. On 4/26/05, Colin Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. ZTTEST is a critical metric. I was getting disconnects on about 20% of faxes until I looked at the output

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Trevor Peirce
Steve Underwood wrote: I have one weird audio log from a new HP combination printer and fax machine that i haven't sorted out yet. These HP machines really are total crap. I have workarounds in spandsp for several blatently wrong things they do. I don't yet know who is at fault with this latest

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Colin Anderson
] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:15 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP?? Hello Colin, Did setting the latency timer really helped? What latency do you set for the rest of pci devices? just 0? Julian J. M. On 4/26/05

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Craig Guy
-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP?? Why would you expect a bunch of fax modems to work any better than spandsp? If spandsp doesn't work reliably your system is very likely broken. I have had

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Matthew Boehm
: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:51:22 +0800 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP?? I agree with Steve on this, am piloting Spandsp 0.0.2pre15 on asterisk 1.0.7 with a TE405p, euroisdn. Fedora Core

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-26 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 22:16 -0500, Matthew Boehm wrote: Damn. I'm using spandsp0.0.2pre15 and asterisk 1.0.7 with a single span card (US PRI) and I can get it to work about 85% of the time on a single 1 paged fax. I count a failed fax if any of the tiff images don't look like the original.

[Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-25 Thread Jeremy Melanson
Hello all. I'm trying to see if anyone knows of an alternative solution, commercial or non-commercial, to SpanDSP. I'm specifically looking for another software-based, DSP fax that doesn't require me to add a tie up a bunch of extensions on my PBX. Has anyone ever seen such an animal, or gotten

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-25 Thread Eric Wieling aka ManxPower
I wasn't aware that SpanDSP tied up a bunch of extensions. Jeremy Melanson wrote: I'm trying to see if anyone knows of an alternative solution, commercial or non-commercial, to SpanDSP. I'm specifically looking for another software-based, DSP fax that doesn't require me to add a tie up a bunch

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-25 Thread Jeremy Melanson
I guess I didn't word this right. It's not that SpanDSP ties up extensions, as it definitely doesn't. I was more referring to the standard hardware-based solutions out there that need to have a dedicated line for an incoming fax. I need the ability to send and receive faxes with a good amount of

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-25 Thread Anton Krall
Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of |Jeremy Melanson |Sent: Lunes, 25 de Abril de 2005 12:51 p.m. |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP?? | |I guess I didn't word this right. |It's

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-25 Thread Jeremy Melanson
More like, I already have enough Digium cards, and I don't want purchase a bunch of fax/modems and more Digium cards than I alrady have. I have a PRI line that I'd like to support high-volume faxing on. I've gotten SpanDSP to work with * over the PRI, but I need a more reliability. That, and I

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Alternatives to SpanDSP??

2005-04-25 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 17:07 -0400, Jeremy Melanson wrote: More like, I already have enough Digium cards, and I don't want purchase a bunch of fax/modems and more Digium cards than I alrady have. I have a PRI line that I'd like to support high-volume faxing on. I've gotten SpanDSP to work with