[asterisk-users] Interesting new hack attack

2014-05-22 Thread Steve Murphy
In the past little while, we've seen a wave of attacks on asterisk, via the provisioning. It goes something like this: A. scan for IP phones on the internet, either via spotting something on port 5060, or via the port 80 web interface for the phone. Or, use web sites that scan the

Re: [asterisk-users] Interesting new hack attack

2014-05-22 Thread James Sharp
On 5/22/2014 12:41 PM, Steve Murphy wrote: So, these defenses can be employed to stop/ameliorate such hacking efforts: 1. Keep your phones behind a firewall. Travellers, beware! Never leave the default login info of the phone at default! 2. Never use the default provisioning URL for the

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-06 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 18:51 -0800, Steve Edwards wrote: snip Your security needs depends on your environment. At this point in time, all of the hosts I manage for my clients exist in very limited environments and have very small attack surfaces. They are racked in secure data centers. They

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-06 Thread C F
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Hans Witvliet aster...@a-domani.nl wrote: On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 18:51 -0800, Steve Edwards wrote: snip Your security needs depends on your environment. At this point in time, all of the hosts I manage for my clients exist in very limited environments and have

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-06 Thread jon pounder
Well, that means opening up VPN connections from everywhere. Thats why I suggested turning off the server completely. hmmm - I thought that was the point of a vpn -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-05 Thread C F
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote: On 11/26/2011 5:00 PM, C F wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Terry Brummell wrote: Install Configure Fail2Ban then the host will be blocked from

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-05 Thread Steve Edwards
(This horse just won't stay dead...) My apologies if I mis-attribute who wrote what. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote: How is using Fail2Ban less resource intensive then me writing (by hand) iptable rules? On Mon, 5 Dec 2011, C F wrote: Sorry I wasnt very

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-05 Thread C F
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk@sedwards.com wrote: (This horse just won't stay dead...) My apologies if I mis-attribute who wrote what. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote: How is using Fail2Ban less resource intensive then me

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-02 Thread Jim Lucas
On 11/26/2011 5:00 PM, C F wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Terry Brummell wrote: Install Configure Fail2Ban then the host will be blocked from connecting. And no, it's not new. I don't need Fail2Ban, thank

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-02 Thread Danny Nicholas
-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack? On 11/26/2011 5:00 PM, C F wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Terry Brummell wrote: Install Configure Fail2Ban then the host will be blocked from

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-02 Thread Steve Edwards
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011, Jim Lucas wrote: How is using Fail2Ban less resource intensive then me writing (by hand) iptable rules? It depends on how you define resources and how much of those resources you have. Gordon (based on my understanding of his posts) does a lot of Asterisk systems on

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-02 Thread john Millican
On 12/2/2011 12:44 PM, Steve Edwards wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2011, Jim Lucas wrote: How is using Fail2Ban less resource intensive then me writing (by hand) iptable rules? It depends on how you define resources and how much of those resources you have. Gordon (based on my understanding of his

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-02 Thread Tom Browning
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk@sedwards.com wrote: Gordon (based on my understanding of his posts) does a lot of Asterisk systems on very limited hardware hosts. His approach uses iptables features to limit the number of SIP INVITES and REGISTERS per second per IP

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-01 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, C F wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Tom Browning ttbrown...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: Linux has excellent built-in subsystems to control firewalling and so on without resorting to external

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-01 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011, Tom Browning wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:44 PM, john Millican j...@millican.us wrote: Maybe I am misunderstanding the gist of the comment OP offered an invalid comparison of how iptables is better than Fail2Ban. Whether or not OP knew that Fail2Ban simply feeds

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-01 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011, jon pounder wrote: On 11/30/2011 09:01 AM, Tom Browning wrote: I agree - its a bad comparison of 2 different things meant for different purposes. iptables is enforcement, fail2ban is detection. iptables can also detect and log these detections. if you have time to

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-01 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, C F wrote: BTW, you were just proven wrong, you need it for this hack. In addition to the few hundred protected asterisk installations I run, I also run a few honeypots. Gordon -- _ -- Bandwidth and

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-01 Thread Tom Browning
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: Yes, I know exactly how Fail2Ban works. Then you should be able to proffer a better argument of why it isn't necessary. -- _ -- Bandwidth and

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-12-01 Thread C F
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, C F wrote: BTW, you were just proven wrong, you need it for this hack. In addition to the few hundred protected asterisk installations I run, I also run a few honeypots. Protected? You

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-11-30 Thread Tom Browning
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:44 PM, john Millican j...@millican.us wrote: Maybe I am misunderstanding the gist of the comment OP offered an invalid comparison of how iptables is better than Fail2Ban. Whether or not OP knew that Fail2Ban simply feeds rules to iptables is unclear from his comments.

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-11-30 Thread jon pounder
On 11/30/2011 09:01 AM, Tom Browning wrote: I agree - its a bad comparison of 2 different things meant for different purposes. iptables is enforcement, fail2ban is detection. if you have time to sit and make up iptables rules by hand during every hack attempt 1) you have too much time on

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-11-29 Thread C F
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, C F wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Terry Brummell wrote: Install Configure Fail2Ban then the host will

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-11-29 Thread C F
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Tom Browning ttbrown...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: Linux has excellent built-in subsystems to control firewalling and so on without resorting to external programs. It's called iptables.

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-11-29 Thread john Millican
On 11/29/2011 12:48 PM, C F wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Tom Browningttbrown...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: Linux has excellent built-in subsystems to control firewalling and so on without resorting to

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-11-28 Thread Tom Browning
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: Linux has excellent built-in subsystems to control firewalling and so on without resorting to external programs. It's called iptables. If you know how to use them, then using an external resource such as

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-11-27 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, C F wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Terry Brummell wrote: Install Configure Fail2Ban then the host will be blocked from connecting.  And no, it's not new. I don't need Fail2Ban, thank you.

[asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-11-26 Thread Gordon Henderson
Or just an old one that I've not noticed before... Seeing lines like this in the logs: [Nov 26 08:47:17] NOTICE[789] chan_sip.c: Sending fake auth rejection for user VOIP sip:VOIP@85.25.145.176;tag=E2lb2p9BOJ [Nov 26 08:47:17] NOTICE[789] chan_sip.c: Sending fake auth rejection for user VOIP

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-11-26 Thread Terry Brummell
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] A new hack? Or just an old one that I've not noticed before... Seeing lines like this in the logs: [Nov 26 08:47:17] NOTICE[789] chan_sip.c: Sending fake auth rejection for user VOIP sip:VOIP@85.25.145.176;tag=E2lb2p9BOJ [Nov 26 08

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-11-26 Thread Gordon Henderson
...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:55 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] A new hack? Or just an old one that I've not noticed before... Seeing lines like

Re: [asterisk-users] A new hack?

2011-11-26 Thread C F
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Terry Brummell wrote: Install Configure Fail2Ban then the host will be blocked from connecting.  And no, it's not new. I don't need Fail2Ban, thank you. But your advice might be useful