Re: [Asterisk-Users] Modem and Fax over VoIP

2003-10-06 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 10:12, Eduardo Goncalves wrote:
 Hello,
 
   I have the fowling scenario:
 
 fxs[asterisk1]-iax-[asterisk2]e1em---PSTN
   
   I want to know the steps to transmit fax from a machine connected to the fxs 
 to a fax machine on the PSTN. The same for dial-up's.
   Is it possible only with a/ulaw ? 
   What configs I need in asterisk1?

If asterisk2 is your only access to the PSTN, then it doesn't make a lot
of sense to do fax over VoIP. Put a couple of modems on asterisk2 with
matching FXS ports and learn to use Hylafax. You will get better
performance out of the faxing and potentially lower bills. Also it is
more flexible. Not to mention that the bandwidth over VoIP to make data
quality calls is around 80k of VoIP to get flakey 9.6k. Do you need to
waste 10x bandwidth for sub par functionality?  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Modem and Fax over VoIP

2003-10-06 Thread Eduardo Goncalves
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:43:21 -0500
Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 10:12, Eduardo Goncalves wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I have the fowling scenario:
  
  fxs[asterisk1]-iax-[asterisk2]e1em---PSTN

 
 If asterisk2 is your only access to the PSTN, then it doesn't make a lot
 of sense to do fax over VoIP. Put a couple of modems on asterisk2 with
 matching FXS ports and learn to use Hylafax. 

I can't. Because asterisk1 is at a remote site. And the only access to PSTN at 
this remote site is trough asterisk2.

 performance out of the faxing and potentially lower bills. Also it is
 more flexible. Not to mention that the bandwidth over VoIP to make data
 quality calls is around 80k of VoIP to get flakey 9.6k. Do you need to
 waste 10x bandwidth for sub par functionality?  

Is it possible to config asterisk1 to change to g.711 only when a fax 
transmission is detected?

Thanks
Eduardo
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Modem and Fax over VoIP

2003-10-06 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 13:55, Eduardo Goncalves wrote:
 On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:43:21 -0500
 Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 10:12, Eduardo Goncalves wrote:
   Hello,
   
 I have the fowling scenario:
   
   fxs[asterisk1]-iax-[asterisk2]e1em---PSTN
 
  
  If asterisk2 is your only access to the PSTN, then it doesn't make a lot
  of sense to do fax over VoIP. Put a couple of modems on asterisk2 with
  matching FXS ports and learn to use Hylafax. 
 
   I can't. Because asterisk1 is at a remote site. And the only access
 to PSTN at this remote site is trough asterisk2.

unless you are using standalone fax units for the scanning, then you
should be able to. The scenario I laid out above was for specifically
this case. Drop a cheap flatbed scanner in to capture the image, then
send it to hylafax at asterisk2 location to hop a local modem to a FXS
port and off to the net. You can then receive incoming faxes via email
or similar and then choose what to print. 

  performance out of the faxing and potentially lower bills. Also it is
  more flexible. Not to mention that the bandwidth over VoIP to make data
  quality calls is around 80k of VoIP to get flakey 9.6k. Do you need to
  waste 10x bandwidth for sub par functionality?  
 
   Is it possible to config asterisk1 to change to g.711 only when a fax
 transmission is detected?

If it is on a specific non shared port, then you can set it up in a
context that uses a different username and password to connect, and in
that definition disallow all and allow ulaw. Just know that this method
is spotty, and may not work because of problems in the fax protocol and
timing needs. search archive for very good explanations of this problem.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Modem and Fax over VoIP

2003-10-06 Thread Andrew Joakimsen
Fax with G711 works fine. Modem will be slow, but if you really need to
use it slown them down to 28.8 or 33.6

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 On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:43:21 -0500
 Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 10:12, Eduardo Goncalves wrote:
   Hello,
  
 I have the fowling scenario:
  
   fxs[asterisk1]-iax-[asterisk2]e1em---PSTN
 
 
  If asterisk2 is your only access to the PSTN, then it doesn't make a
lot
  of sense to do fax over VoIP. Put a couple of modems on asterisk2
with
  matching FXS ports and learn to use Hylafax.
 
   I can't. Because asterisk1 is at a remote site. And the only
access
 to PSTN at this remote site is trough asterisk2.
 
  performance out of the faxing and potentially lower bills. Also it
is
  more flexible. Not to mention that the bandwidth over VoIP to make
data
  quality calls is around 80k of VoIP to get flakey 9.6k. Do you need
to
  waste 10x bandwidth for sub par functionality?
 
   Is it possible to config asterisk1 to change to g.711 only when
a
 fax transmission is detected?
 
 Thanks
 Eduardo
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Modem and Fax over VoIP

2003-10-06 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 15:12, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:
 Fax with G711 works fine. Modem will be slow, but if you really need
 to
 use it slown them down to 28.8 or 33.6

This depends on if you have consistent latency and otherwise no jitter.

On my 12 hop link with the office over a cable modem, it is iffy to get
a modem connection up. The connection occasionally claimed 14400, but
never was over 1200 in actual output. So again, this is chancy at best
and in the end will result in longer calls between fax machines. A cheap
modem, and a $10 scanner will solve the problem and keep you faxes going
out fast.

  Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 10:12, Eduardo Goncalves wrote:
Hello,
   
I have the fowling scenario:
   
fxs[asterisk1]-iax-[asterisk2]e1em---PSTN
  
  
   If asterisk2 is your only access to the PSTN, then it doesn't make a
 lot
   of sense to do fax over VoIP. Put a couple of modems on asterisk2
 with
   matching FXS ports and learn to use Hylafax.
  
  I can't. Because asterisk1 is at a remote site. And the only
 access
  to PSTN at this remote site is trough asterisk2.
  
   performance out of the faxing and potentially lower bills. Also it
 is
   more flexible. Not to mention that the bandwidth over VoIP to make
 data
   quality calls is around 80k of VoIP to get flakey 9.6k. Do you need
 to
   waste 10x bandwidth for sub par functionality?
  
  Is it possible to config asterisk1 to change to g.711 only when
 a
  fax transmission is detected?
  
  Thanks
  Eduardo
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