Re: [asterisk-users] how can queue agents choose which call to answer?

2014-10-05 Thread Marie Fischer
Thanks for your ideas. I set up a solution via AMI Redirect and it works nicely.

The only question now is queue metrics, as you also mentioned - the redirected 
calls get logged as ABANDON in the queue log. I could of course add a custom 
entry to the log via QueueLog function to show the call was actually 
redirected, but is there a way to disable/change the ABANDON log itself? It 
seems from this discussion FOP has the same problem: 
http://forum.fop2.com/1746-call-pickup-function-causes-dummy-entry-in-cdr-database/0

-- 

marie

On 23.09.2014, at 22:02, Scott Griepentrog sgriepent...@digium.com wrote:

 You can use any number of methods for redirecting a call from the queue to a 
 specific agent.  These include off the shelf products such as FOP or 
 iSymphony, or even something custom built that can display calls and direct 
 Asterisk (usually through AMI) to transfer the call to a new destination.
 
 However, you will need to be aware that your queue metrics may not count it 
 as a normally handled call, since the call is yanked out of the queue to 
 transfer directly to an agent via a separate tool.
 
 You may also want to look into building a custom queue-like solution through 
 ARI, using a Stasis application to manage callers on hold in waiting bridges, 
 and then delivering them to agents completely under control of your 
 application.  In this case you would need to create your own queue logging 
 data to your metrics solution, which would allow you to record calls 
 correctly even when transferred early.
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Michael Keuter li...@mksolutions.info 
 wrote:
 
 Am 23.09.2014 um 19:49 schrieb Marie Fischer ma...@vtl.ee:
 
  Hi everybody,
 
  I'm looking for a solution for the following scenario:
 
  • Asterisk queue
  • At peak hours, there will be more callers then queue members/agents, so 
  some callers will spend some time on hold
  • Agents should be able to choose which of the on hold calls to answer 
  instead of answering the next one in queue
 
  We already have a web interface where agents can see the callers on hold, 
  so the best solution would be if they could just click a callers number to 
  get his call. But I have not found a way to tell Asterisk to do something 
  to a call on hold in a queue.
 
  Priority queues are not really an option, as the agents will be deciding on 
  the fly which caller is more important.
 
  I am not really sure if queues are the correct solution for this problem. 
  However, we have existing statistics built for queue logs, so it would be 
  really nice if the solution was queue-based.
 
  Thanks for any thoughts,
 
  --
 
  marie
 
 
 Hello Marie,
 
 maybe FOP2  [1] is an option for you. There you can visually pick up a call 
 from a queue.
 It's not open source though.
 
 [1] http://www.fop2.com
 
 Michael
 
 http://www.mksolutions.info
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] how can queue agents choose which call to answer?

2014-10-05 Thread Marie Fischer
... and to continue my thought, if nothing else is possible, would it be a Very 
Bad Idea to just delete the ABANDON log (queue_log goes to mysql via odbc) 
automatically after it's created? In h extension?

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On 05.10.2014, at 20:42, Marie Fischer ma...@vtl.ee wrote:

 Thanks for your ideas. I set up a solution via AMI Redirect and it works 
 nicely.
 
 The only question now is queue metrics, as you also mentioned - the 
 redirected calls get logged as ABANDON in the queue log. I could of course 
 add a custom entry to the log via QueueLog function to show the call was 
 actually redirected, but is there a way to disable/change the ABANDON log 
 itself? It seems from this discussion FOP has the same problem: 
 http://forum.fop2.com/1746-call-pickup-function-causes-dummy-entry-in-cdr-database/0
 
 -- 
 
 marie
 
 On 23.09.2014, at 22:02, Scott Griepentrog sgriepent...@digium.com wrote:
 
 You can use any number of methods for redirecting a call from the queue to a 
 specific agent.  These include off the shelf products such as FOP or 
 iSymphony, or even something custom built that can display calls and direct 
 Asterisk (usually through AMI) to transfer the call to a new destination.
 
 However, you will need to be aware that your queue metrics may not count it 
 as a normally handled call, since the call is yanked out of the queue to 
 transfer directly to an agent via a separate tool.
 
 You may also want to look into building a custom queue-like solution through 
 ARI, using a Stasis application to manage callers on hold in waiting 
 bridges, and then delivering them to agents completely under control of your 
 application.  In this case you would need to create your own queue logging 
 data to your metrics solution, which would allow you to record calls 
 correctly even when transferred early.
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Michael Keuter li...@mksolutions.info 
 wrote:
 
 Am 23.09.2014 um 19:49 schrieb Marie Fischer ma...@vtl.ee:
 
 Hi everybody,
 
 I'm looking for a solution for the following scenario:
 
 • Asterisk queue
 • At peak hours, there will be more callers then queue members/agents, so 
 some callers will spend some time on hold
 • Agents should be able to choose which of the on hold calls to answer 
 instead of answering the next one in queue
 
 We already have a web interface where agents can see the callers on hold, 
 so the best solution would be if they could just click a callers number to 
 get his call. But I have not found a way to tell Asterisk to do something 
 to a call on hold in a queue.
 
 Priority queues are not really an option, as the agents will be deciding on 
 the fly which caller is more important.
 
 I am not really sure if queues are the correct solution for this problem. 
 However, we have existing statistics built for queue logs, so it would be 
 really nice if the solution was queue-based.
 
 Thanks for any thoughts,
 
 --
 
 marie
 
 
 Hello Marie,
 
 maybe FOP2  [1] is an option for you. There you can visually pick up a 
 call from a queue.
 It's not open source though.
 
 [1] http://www.fop2.com
 
 Michael
 
 http://www.mksolutions.info
 
 
 
 
 
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[asterisk-users] how can queue agents choose which call to answer?

2014-09-23 Thread Marie Fischer
Hi everybody,

I'm looking for a solution for the following scenario:

• Asterisk queue
• At peak hours, there will be more callers then queue members/agents, so some 
callers will spend some time on hold
• Agents should be able to choose which of the on hold calls to answer instead 
of answering the next one in queue

We already have a web interface where agents can see the callers on hold, so 
the best solution would be if they could just click a callers number to get his 
call. But I have not found a way to tell Asterisk to do something to a call on 
hold in a queue.

Priority queues are not really an option, as the agents will be deciding on the 
fly which caller is more important.

I am not really sure if queues are the correct solution for this problem. 
However, we have existing statistics built for queue logs, so it would be 
really nice if the solution was queue-based.

Thanks for any thoughts,

-- 

marie


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Re: [asterisk-users] how can queue agents choose which call to answer?

2014-09-23 Thread Michael Keuter

Am 23.09.2014 um 19:49 schrieb Marie Fischer ma...@vtl.ee:

 Hi everybody,
 
 I'm looking for a solution for the following scenario:
 
 • Asterisk queue
 • At peak hours, there will be more callers then queue members/agents, so 
 some callers will spend some time on hold
 • Agents should be able to choose which of the on hold calls to answer 
 instead of answering the next one in queue
 
 We already have a web interface where agents can see the callers on hold, so 
 the best solution would be if they could just click a callers number to get 
 his call. But I have not found a way to tell Asterisk to do something to a 
 call on hold in a queue.
 
 Priority queues are not really an option, as the agents will be deciding on 
 the fly which caller is more important.
 
 I am not really sure if queues are the correct solution for this problem. 
 However, we have existing statistics built for queue logs, so it would be 
 really nice if the solution was queue-based.
 
 Thanks for any thoughts,
 
 -- 
 
 marie


Hello Marie,

maybe FOP2  [1] is an option for you. There you can visually pick up a call 
from a queue.
It's not open source though.

[1] http://www.fop2.com

Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info





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Re: [asterisk-users] how can queue agents choose which call to answer?

2014-09-23 Thread Scott Griepentrog
You can use any number of methods for redirecting a call from the queue to
a specific agent.  These include off the shelf products such as FOP or
iSymphony, or even something custom built that can display calls and direct
Asterisk (usually through AMI) to transfer the call to a new destination.

However, you will need to be aware that your queue metrics may not count it
as a normally handled call, since the call is yanked out of the queue to
transfer directly to an agent via a separate tool.

You may also want to look into building a custom queue-like solution
through ARI, using a Stasis application to manage callers on hold in
waiting bridges, and then delivering them to agents completely under
control of your application.  In this case you would need to create your
own queue logging data to your metrics solution, which would allow you to
record calls correctly even when transferred early.


On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Michael Keuter li...@mksolutions.info
wrote:


 Am 23.09.2014 um 19:49 schrieb Marie Fischer ma...@vtl.ee:

  Hi everybody,
 
  I'm looking for a solution for the following scenario:
 
  • Asterisk queue
  • At peak hours, there will be more callers then queue members/agents,
 so some callers will spend some time on hold
  • Agents should be able to choose which of the on hold calls to answer
 instead of answering the next one in queue
 
  We already have a web interface where agents can see the callers on
 hold, so the best solution would be if they could just click a callers
 number to get his call. But I have not found a way to tell Asterisk to do
 something to a call on hold in a queue.
 
  Priority queues are not really an option, as the agents will be deciding
 on the fly which caller is more important.
 
  I am not really sure if queues are the correct solution for this
 problem. However, we have existing statistics built for queue logs, so it
 would be really nice if the solution was queue-based.
 
  Thanks for any thoughts,
 
  --
 
  marie


 Hello Marie,

 maybe FOP2  [1] is an option for you. There you can visually pick up a
 call from a queue.
 It's not open source though.

 [1] http://www.fop2.com

 Michael

 http://www.mksolutions.info





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