Re: [asterisk-users] Channel names with semicolons

2022-09-07 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 11:35 AM Antony Stone <
antony.st...@asterisk.open.source.it> wrote:

> On Wednesday 07 September 2022 at 15:32:50, Thomas Ray wrote:
>
> > From https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Channels
> >
> > "The primary exception is with Local Channels. In the case of local
> > channels, you'll typically have two local channel legs, one that is
> > treated as outbound and the other as inbound. In this case both are
> really
> > inside Asterisk, but one is executing dialplan and the other is not. The
> > leg executing dialplan is the one treated as inbound."
> >
> > In your case, context-0ce9;1 is the inbound channel because you did
> > Dial(Local/number@context) and context-0ce9;2 is the outbound
> channel
> > because it did the Dial to another destination. Simply, the numbers
> > represent each leg of a local channel.
>
> Thanks - so, which one should I pass as the parameter to ChannelRedirect()
> when I want to put the call on hold (and then Bridge() when I want to join
> it
> back to the other caller again)?
>

It... depends on who you want to be affected by it. For example:

PJSIP/alice <---> Local;1 <> Local;2 <---> PJSIP/bob

If you redirect "Local;1" then PJSIP/bob is going to be impacted, because
you're changing what Local;1 is doing.
If you redirect "Local;2" then PJSIP/alice is going to be impacted, because
you're changing what Local;2 is doing.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel names with semicolons

2022-09-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 07 September 2022 at 15:32:50, Thomas Ray wrote:

> From https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Channels
> 
> "The primary exception is with Local Channels. In the case of local
> channels, you'll typically have two local channel legs, one that is
> treated as outbound and the other as inbound. In this case both are really
> inside Asterisk, but one is executing dialplan and the other is not. The
> leg executing dialplan is the one treated as inbound."
> 
> In your case, context-0ce9;1 is the inbound channel because you did
> Dial(Local/number@context) and context-0ce9;2 is the outbound channel
> because it did the Dial to another destination. Simply, the numbers
> represent each leg of a local channel.

Thanks - so, which one should I pass as the parameter to ChannelRedirect() 
when I want to put the call on hold (and then Bridge() when I want to join it 
back to the other caller again)?


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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel names with semicolons

2022-09-07 Thread Thomas Ray
 

 

From: asterisk-users  on behalf of 
"Joshua C. Colp" 
Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 

Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 10:23 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 

Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Channel names with semicolons

 

On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 11:17 AM Antony Stone 
 wrote:

On Wednesday 07 September 2022 at 11:44:54, Antony Stone wrote:

> Hi.

This is a follow-up to an email I posted earlier today to the list, although I 
haven't seen it come back yet.  If it's under moderation for some reason, I 
hope some kindly admin will release it :)

 

There's nothing in the moderator queue that I can see.

 


> I'm trying to deal with a problem regarding putting a call on hold and then
> later resuming it.  I am using chan_sip throughout, and Asterisk 16.



> The main thing which is puzzling me about this is that I see examples of
> both Local/number@context-0ce9;1 and Local/number@context-0ce9;2
> during the processing of the calls.
> 
> What is the significance of the number following the semi-colon?
> 
> I also see in verbose logging output:
> 
> [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310706] pbx VERBOSE[29148]: dial.c:598 in
> handle_frame: Local/number@context-0ce9;1 answered
> 
> [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310792] pbx VERBOSE[29155][C-1265]:
> bridge_channel.c:2252 in bridge_channel_internal_push_full: Channel
> SIP/Trunkname-2b55 joined 'simple_bridge' basic-bridge <7e260e93-
> abd4-48ea-96f1-33601165dba2>
> 
> [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310937] pbx VERBOSE[29149][C-1265]:
> bridge_channel.c:2252 in bridge_channel_internal_push_full: Channel
> Local/number@context-0ce9;2 joined 'simple_bridge' basic-bridge
> <7e260e93- abd4-48ea-96f1-33601165dba2>
> 
> 
> So, when the channel Local/number@context-0ce9;1 gets answered, the
> result is to bridge the channels Local/number@context-0ce9;2 and
> SIP/Trunkname-2b55

I see something very similar in the documentation about local channels at 
https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Using+Callfiles+and+Local+Channels - 
there are examples of both devices-ecf0;1 and devices-ecf0;2 but no mention of 
what the final digit means.

Can anyone enlighten me please?

 

A single channel can't do two things at once (you can't have a channel talking 
to Alice while also executing the Voicemail dialplan application for example) - 
so Local channels solve this by having 

two independent channels that exchange things back and forth internally. The ;2 
leg is the one that gets sent into the dialplan, while the ;1 leg is doing 
whatever dialed it decides to do with it. If you send audio to ;1 it then pops 
out of ;2, and vice versa.

 

--- 

Oh I had the channel numbers reversed in my previous example. So yeah, this.

 

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel names with semicolons

2022-09-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 07 September 2022 at 15:21:59, Joshua C. Colp wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 11:17 AM Antony Stone wrote:
> > 
> > This is a follow-up to an email I posted earlier today to the list,

> There's nothing in the moderator queue that I can see.

Thanks, sent again, and immediately received back.

> > I see something very similar in the documentation about local channels at
> > 
> > https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Using+Callfiles+and+Local+
> > Channels - there are examples of both devices-ecf0;1 and devices-ecf0;2
> > but no mention of what the final digit means.
> > 
> > Can anyone enlighten me please?
> 
> A single channel can't do two things at once (you can't have a channel
> talking to Alice while also executing the Voicemail dialplan application
> for example) - so Local channels solve this by having two independent
> channels that exchange things back and forth internally. The ;2 leg is the
> one that gets sent into the dialplan, while the ;1 leg is doing whatever
> dialed it decides to do with it. If you send audio to ;1 it then pops out
> of ;2, and vice versa.

Ah, splendid - thanks for the clarification.

So, coming back to my original difficulty, if I want to put this "thing" on 
hold, should I do ChannelRedirect() on the ;1 or the ;2 part?  Maybe even 
both??

I *believe* I have tried each (today my dialplan is processing ;2) and in both 
cases, as soon as the channel is put on hold, the hangup handler is called and 
the call ends.

I am perfectly successful in using ChannelRedirect() for putting calls on hold 
when they are a SIP/ channel and not a Local/ one.


Regards,


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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel names with semicolons

2022-09-07 Thread Thomas Ray
From https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Channels

"The primary exception is with Local Channels. In the case of local channels, 
you'll typically have two local channel legs, one that is treated as outbound 
and the other as inbound. In this case both are really inside Asterisk, but one 
is executing dialplan and the other is not. The leg executing dialplan is the 
one treated as inbound."

In your case, context-0ce9;1 is the inbound channel because you did 
Dial(Local/number@context) and context-0ce9;2 is the outbound channel 
because it did the Dial to another destination. Simply, the numbers represent 
each leg of a local channel.

Tom


On 2022-09-07, 10:18 AM, "asterisk-users on behalf of Antony Stone" 
 wrote:

On Wednesday 07 September 2022 at 11:44:54, Antony Stone wrote:

> Hi.

This is a follow-up to an email I posted earlier today to the list, 
although I 
haven't seen it come back yet.  If it's under moderation for some reason, I 
hope some kindly admin will release it :)

> I'm trying to deal with a problem regarding putting a call on hold and 
then
> later resuming it.  I am using chan_sip throughout, and Asterisk 16.



> The main thing which is puzzling me about this is that I see examples of
> both Local/number@context-0ce9;1 and Local/number@context-0ce9;2
> during the processing of the calls.
> 
> What is the significance of the number following the semi-colon?
> 
> I also see in verbose logging output:
> 
> [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310706] pbx VERBOSE[29148]: dial.c:598 in
> handle_frame: Local/number@context-0ce9;1 answered
> 
> [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310792] pbx VERBOSE[29155][C-1265]:
> bridge_channel.c:2252 in bridge_channel_internal_push_full: Channel
> SIP/Trunkname-2b55 joined 'simple_bridge' basic-bridge <7e260e93-
> abd4-48ea-96f1-33601165dba2>
> 
> [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310937] pbx VERBOSE[29149][C-1265]:
> bridge_channel.c:2252 in bridge_channel_internal_push_full: Channel
> Local/number@context-0ce9;2 joined 'simple_bridge' basic-bridge
> <7e260e93- abd4-48ea-96f1-33601165dba2>
> 
> 
> So, when the channel Local/number@context-0ce9;1 gets answered, the
> result is to bridge the channels Local/number@context-0ce9;2 and
> SIP/Trunkname-2b55

I see something very similar in the documentation about local channels at 

https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Using+Callfiles+and+Local+Channels - 
there are examples of both devices-ecf0;1 and devices-ecf0;2 but no mention 
of 
what the final digit means.

Can anyone enlighten me please?


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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel names with semicolons

2022-09-07 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 11:17 AM Antony Stone <
antony.st...@asterisk.open.source.it> wrote:

> On Wednesday 07 September 2022 at 11:44:54, Antony Stone wrote:
>
> > Hi.
>
> This is a follow-up to an email I posted earlier today to the list,
> although I
> haven't seen it come back yet.  If it's under moderation for some reason,
> I
> hope some kindly admin will release it :)
>

There's nothing in the moderator queue that I can see.


>
> > I'm trying to deal with a problem regarding putting a call on hold and
> then
> > later resuming it.  I am using chan_sip throughout, and Asterisk 16.
>
> 
>
> > The main thing which is puzzling me about this is that I see examples of
> > both Local/number@context-0ce9;1 and Local/number@context-0ce9;2
> > during the processing of the calls.
> >
> > What is the significance of the number following the semi-colon?
> >
> > I also see in verbose logging output:
> >
> > [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310706] pbx VERBOSE[29148]: dial.c:598 in
> > handle_frame: Local/number@context-0ce9;1 answered
> >
> > [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310792] pbx VERBOSE[29155][C-1265]:
> > bridge_channel.c:2252 in bridge_channel_internal_push_full: Channel
> > SIP/Trunkname-2b55 joined 'simple_bridge' basic-bridge <7e260e93-
> > abd4-48ea-96f1-33601165dba2>
> >
> > [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310937] pbx VERBOSE[29149][C-1265]:
> > bridge_channel.c:2252 in bridge_channel_internal_push_full: Channel
> > Local/number@context-0ce9;2 joined 'simple_bridge' basic-bridge
> > <7e260e93- abd4-48ea-96f1-33601165dba2>
> >
> >
> > So, when the channel Local/number@context-0ce9;1 gets answered, the
> > result is to bridge the channels Local/number@context-0ce9;2 and
> > SIP/Trunkname-2b55
>
> I see something very similar in the documentation about local channels at
>
> https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Using+Callfiles+and+Local+Channels
> -
> there are examples of both devices-ecf0;1 and devices-ecf0;2 but no
> mention of
> what the final digit means.
>
> Can anyone enlighten me please?
>

A single channel can't do two things at once (you can't have a channel
talking to Alice while also executing the Voicemail dialplan application
for example) - so Local channels solve this by having two independent
channels that exchange things back and forth internally. The ;2 leg is the
one that gets sent into the dialplan, while the ;1 leg is doing whatever
dialed it decides to do with it. If you send audio to ;1 it then pops out
of ;2, and vice versa.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel names with semicolons

2022-09-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 07 September 2022 at 11:44:54, Antony Stone wrote:

> Hi.

This is a follow-up to an email I posted earlier today to the list, although I 
haven't seen it come back yet.  If it's under moderation for some reason, I 
hope some kindly admin will release it :)

> I'm trying to deal with a problem regarding putting a call on hold and then
> later resuming it.  I am using chan_sip throughout, and Asterisk 16.



> The main thing which is puzzling me about this is that I see examples of
> both Local/number@context-0ce9;1 and Local/number@context-0ce9;2
> during the processing of the calls.
> 
> What is the significance of the number following the semi-colon?
> 
> I also see in verbose logging output:
> 
> [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310706] pbx VERBOSE[29148]: dial.c:598 in
> handle_frame: Local/number@context-0ce9;1 answered
> 
> [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310792] pbx VERBOSE[29155][C-1265]:
> bridge_channel.c:2252 in bridge_channel_internal_push_full: Channel
> SIP/Trunkname-2b55 joined 'simple_bridge' basic-bridge <7e260e93-
> abd4-48ea-96f1-33601165dba2>
> 
> [2022-09-07 09:37:57.310937] pbx VERBOSE[29149][C-1265]:
> bridge_channel.c:2252 in bridge_channel_internal_push_full: Channel
> Local/number@context-0ce9;2 joined 'simple_bridge' basic-bridge
> <7e260e93- abd4-48ea-96f1-33601165dba2>
> 
> 
> So, when the channel Local/number@context-0ce9;1 gets answered, the
> result is to bridge the channels Local/number@context-0ce9;2 and
> SIP/Trunkname-2b55

I see something very similar in the documentation about local channels at 
https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Using+Callfiles+and+Local+Channels - 
there are examples of both devices-ecf0;1 and devices-ecf0;2 but no mention of 
what the final digit means.

Can anyone enlighten me please?


Antony.

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