I am still using Asterisk 1.4 because of the Asterisk GUI. I don't
understand why it was ever dropped, it's easy to setup (no SQL
databases), quick, works well and in my experiance it gets along with
manual config file changes.
The only real issue I've encountered with 1.4 is Digium can't seem to
5 maj 2011 kl. 18.30 skrev Ira:
At 07:56 AM 5/5/2011, you wrote:
So how can we fix this? How can we get more people involded? What makes
projects like FedoraTesting[3] and DebianTesting[4] popular? How can the
Asterisk project reproduce their success?
Well, it's not a lot of people
Thanks for the feedback, Ira. It makes me very sad to hear what you say and I
hope that we can get more resources from the community to assist in the
process to make it more friendly. We want to get those bug reports. The one
thing I hate to hear when I'm travelling at conferences is that oh, I
At 05:39 AM 5/6/2011, you wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, Ira. It makes me very sad to hear what you
say and I hope that we can get more resources from the community to
assist in the process to make it more friendly. We want to get those
bug reports. The one thing I hate to hear when I'm
5 maj 2011 kl. 05.28 skrev Flavio Goncalves:
My 2 cents. All these problems seem to be lack of focus. Digium,
please stop doing everything to everyone. Too many versions, too many
features, too many code, too many bugs. Following the Pareto's
principle, 80% of the users use only 20% of the
5 maj 2011 kl. 06.33 skrev Olivier:
2011/5/5 Flavio Goncalves fla...@asteriskguide.com
snip
but stuffing Asterisk with
many new features on each version does not seem to be contributing to
the stability of the code or the migration to newer versions.
yes but it seems to me that code
On 05/05/11 05:41, Cary Fitch wrote:
Flavio E. Goncalves
www.asteriskguide.com http://www.asteriskguide.com
Compare to which version of Windows… Patches are a never ending process
Cary Fitch
I think this attitude is half the problem. Asterisk is not a desktop
computer
5 maj 2011 kl. 12.04 skrev Paul Hayes:
On 05/05/11 05:41, Cary Fitch wrote:
Flavio E. Goncalves
www.asteriskguide.com http://www.asteriskguide.com
Compare to which version of Windows… Patches are a never ending process
Cary Fitch
I think this attitude is half the
On 11-05-04 06:01 PM, Matt Riddell wrote:
On 3/05/11 4:01 AM, Hans Witvliet wrote:
Just a thought
If Digium / the community realy want an objective way of deciding
whether can/should migrate to any other version, you realy need a
feature-matrix (pethaps starting from version 1.2.*)
And for
At 07:56 AM 5/5/2011, you wrote:
So how can we fix this? How can we get more people involded? What
makes projects like FedoraTesting[3] and DebianTesting[4]
popular? How can the Asterisk project reproduce their success?
Well, it's not a lot of people willing to run beta software on their
From: Ira i...@extrasensory.com
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 12:38 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Discussion: Are we ready to leave 1.4
behind?
At 07:56 AM 5
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Paul Belanger pabelan...@digium.com wrote:
On 11-05-05 12:30 PM, Ira wrote:
At 07:56 AM 5/5/2011, you wrote:
So how can we fix this? How can we get more people involded? What
makes projects like FedoraTesting[3] and DebianTesting[4] popular? How
can the
At 01:07 PM 5/5/2011, you wrote:
I am not saying using production servers to test, rather reproducing
your production setups in a test environment. You would then create
test plans or test cases of the features you use in Asterisk. Once
documented, for each and every RC of Asterisk you go
On 6/05/11 8:35 AM, Ira wrote:
At 01:07 PM 5/5/2011, you wrote:
I am not saying using production servers to test, rather reproducing
your production setups in a test environment. You would then create
test plans or test cases of the features you use in Asterisk. Once
documented, for each and
At 03:00 PM 5/5/2011, you wrote:
Yes, but in my world there is one Atom powerd Linux box running
Asterisk, 4 or 5 Windows machines and 2 Macs. If I want to test, it has
to be on my production box and I'm more than happy to run beta software
on that box. My comment is just that the protocol for
On 6/05/11 3:14 PM, Ira wrote:
At 03:00 PM 5/5/2011, you wrote:
Yes, but in my world there is one Atom powerd Linux box running
Asterisk, 4 or 5 Windows machines and 2 Macs. If I want to test, it has
to be on my production box and I'm more than happy to run beta software
on that box. My
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Matt Riddell li...@venturevoip.com wrote:
On 6/05/11 3:14 PM, Ira wrote:
At 03:00 PM 5/5/2011, you wrote:
Yes, but in my world there is one Atom powerd Linux box running
Asterisk, 4 or 5 Windows machines and 2 Macs. If I want to test, it has
to be on my
On 3/05/11 4:01 AM, Hans Witvliet wrote:
Just a thought
If Digium / the community realy want an objective way of deciding
whether can/should migrate to any other version, you realy need a
feature-matrix (pethaps starting from version 1.2.*)
And for every and each version a statement if it is:
-
My 2 cents. All these problems seem to be lack of focus. Digium,
please stop doing everything to everyone. Too many versions, too many
features, too many code, too many bugs. Following the Pareto's
principle, 80% of the users use only 20% of the code. My suggestion is
to start thinking of Asterisk
2011/5/5 Flavio Goncalves fla...@asteriskguide.com
snip
but stuffing Asterisk with
many new features on each version does not seem to be contributing to
the stability of the code or the migration to newer versions.
yes but it seems to me that code stability is improving.
Maybe next 1.10.0
_
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Olivier
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 11:33 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Discussion: Are we ready to leave 1.4
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 21:34 +0200, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
Friends,
We have a discussion on asterisk-dev about the maintenance of the 1.4 branch.
According to the release plans, support for 1.4 was scheduled to close in
April 2011 - basically now.
After that, only security patches would
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with the bug tracking system.
It's more of a resource issue with many conflicting priorities. Officially
letting off some of the pressure from older branches does help. I would like
to be making faster progress through bug reports and
29 apr 2011 kl. 01.49 skrev Leif Madsen:
Well the issue is that we currently have over 900 open issues in the Asterisk
project alone, and with only one primary bug marshal (myself) sometimes things
accidentally get closed if it looks like a configuration issue.
What's the reason that we only
Le 29/04/2011 00:42, Russell Bryant a écrit :
- Original Message -
Sure. Please follow the 2 next stories:
- had a customer running 1.4.26 We upgraded to a new server and
installed 1.4.39, last version at this time. Bang: voicemail doesn't
work as it should, had to fallback to 1.4.26
On 11-04-29 02:59 AM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
29 apr 2011 kl. 01.49 skrev Leif Madsen:
Well the issue is that we currently have over 900 open issues in the Asterisk
project alone, and with only one primary bug marshal (myself) sometimes
things
accidentally get closed if it looks like a
to be identified with services
/JOIN #asterisk
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:26:46 +1200
From: li...@venturevoip.com
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Discussion: Are we ready to leave 1.4 behind?
On 29/04/11 1:16 PM, Ira wrote:
Well, I've no idea how to do
: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:26:46 +1200
From: li...@venturevoip.com
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Discussion: Are we ready to leave 1.4
behind?
On 29/04/11 1:16 PM, Ira wrote:
Well, I've no idea how to do that. I can duplicate the problem every
IRC is an online
Now imagine that 1.4 stays at only security level. For first case we
have 2 options: upgrading for security reasons to last version but
then no more voicemail, or staying with 1.4.26. In the second case,
upgrading both servers to test with 1.8. If it's still not working, it
was time
To add another shilling to the pot -
Asterisk as a whole and 1.4 specifically is a very good product. Problems
are introduced (IMHO) when y'all take something that works perfectly well
and try to over-engineer it as a release bell-and-whistle instead of an
add-on. Voicemail and Multi-tenant
This may be Gas on the fire, but I think somebody (Digium/the
community/etc) needs to make a 1.4 parallel installation of 1.8 and get
the baseline in order. Once the parallel features are functional, then we
can all sweat the problems in the extra features. If I can install 1.8 and
know that I
I will throw in my 2 cents on this. I agree that 1.8 is not as stable as it
needs to be. From my perspective I will continue to use the 1.4.x or
1.6.2.x release that is the best fit for me and it should continue to do
what it does and it get's it's security releases.
If the primary development
- Original Message -
PS. Please don't start a discussion about 1.8 quality in this thread,
that's a separate issue. I just want to know what you think about
closing 1.4 support now. If you want to discuss 1.8 quality, start a
new thread. Thanks.
I don't think it's a separate issue at
On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:
I don't think it's a separate issue at all. I would like to see discussion
of exactly which issues are preventing users from using Asterisk 1.8. We're
trying to shift focus to those issues and get them resolved as quickly and as
- Original Message -
On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:
I don't think it's a separate issue at all. I would like to see
discussion of exactly which issues are preventing users from using
Asterisk 1.8. We're trying to shift focus to those issues and get
them
On Apr 28, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:
For us the biggest issue is multi-tenant parking not working. We've
really given up testing anything beyond that point because without
that feature there really isn't any way we could use it.
Broken as compared to 1.6.2? I ask since that
- Original Message -
On Apr 28, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:
For us the biggest issue is multi-tenant parking not working. We've
really given up testing anything beyond that point because without
that feature there really isn't any way we could use it.
Broken as
Le 28/04/2011 16:53, Russell Bryant a écrit :
- Original Message -
PS. Please don't start a discussion about 1.8 quality in this thread,
that's a separate issue. I just want to know what you think about
closing 1.4 support now. If you want to discuss 1.8 quality, start a
new thread.
At 05:56 AM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
If I can install 1.8 and
know that I can turn off things to get to 1.4 solidness, then I don't
have a problem with this kettle of fish. BTW, where does 1.10 fit into this
conversation?
Personally, 1.8 has never lasted more than 12 hours on my box without
Where did you download asterisk 1.10 or trunk ? I search and found nothing.
could your point me there?
-S
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:06:18 -0700
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
From: i...@extrasensory.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Discussion: Are we ready to leave 1.4 behind
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:34 PM, satish patel satish...@hotmail.com wrote:
Where did you download asterisk 1.10 or trunk ? I search and found nothing.
could your point me there?
-S
svn co http://svn.asterisk.org/svn/asterisk/trunk /usr/src/asterisk_trunk
--
~~~ Andrew lathama Latham
On 11-04-28 01:06 PM, Ira wrote:
At 05:56 AM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
If I can install 1.8 and
know that I can turn off things to get to 1.4 solidness, then I don't
have a problem with this kettle of fish. BTW, where does 1.10 fit into
this
conversation?
Personally, 1.8 has never lasted more
its going to fix or not.
-Satish
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:43:15 -0400
From: pabelan...@digium.com
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Discussion: Are we ready to leave 1.4 behind?
On 11-04-28 01:06 PM, Ira wrote:
At 05:56 AM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
If I
On 11-04-28 12:04 PM, Administrator TOOTAI wrote:
Ok, so why not stay with asterisk 1.4 security *and* bug/regression fixes for
few weeks/monthes till 1.8 reaches the level that the community accept to
switch
to 1.8
What is the guide here? What is the level that the community accepts?
Le 28/04/2011 21:47, Leif Madsen a écrit :
On 11-04-28 12:04 PM, Administrator TOOTAI wrote:
Ok, so why not stay with asterisk 1.4 security *and* bug/regression fixes for
few weeks/monthes till 1.8 reaches the level that the community accept to switch
to 1.8
What is the guide here? What is the
At 10:43 AM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
On 11-04-28 01:06 PM, Ira wrote:
At 05:56 AM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
If I can install 1.8 and
know that I can turn off things to get to 1.4 solidness, then I don't
have a problem with this kettle of fish. BTW, where does 1.10 fit into
this
conversation?
On 11-04-28 04:33 PM, Administrator TOOTAI wrote:
Le 28/04/2011 21:47, Leif Madsen a écrit :
On 11-04-28 12:04 PM, Administrator TOOTAI wrote:
Ok, so why not stay with asterisk 1.4 security *and* bug/regression fixes
for
few weeks/monthes till 1.8 reaches the level that the community accept
Le 28/04/2011 22:43, Leif Madsen a écrit :
On 11-04-28 04:33 PM, Administrator TOOTAI wrote:
Le 28/04/2011 21:47, Leif Madsen a écrit :
On 11-04-28 12:04 PM, Administrator TOOTAI wrote:
Ok, so why not stay with asterisk 1.4 security *and* bug/regression fixes for
few weeks/monthes till 1.8
On 11-04-28 04:35 PM, Ira wrote:
If you want to look at this with my help, an email off-list will get
your use of me and my Asterisk box.
I just posted a patch on the issue tracker, I'll need to get it reviewed
to see if this is the best approach.
--
Paul Belanger
Digium, Inc. | Software
At 03:22 PM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
On 11-04-28 04:35 PM, Ira wrote:
If you want to look at this with my help, an email off-list will get
your use of me and my Asterisk box.
I just posted a patch on the issue tracker, I'll need to get it
reviewed to see if this is the best approach.
I would
- Original Message -
Sure. Please follow the 2 next stories:
- had a customer running 1.4.26 We upgraded to a new server and
installed 1.4.39, last version at this time. Bang: voicemail doesn't
work as it should, had to fallback to 1.4.26 Customer is still running
this version.
-
- Original Message -
Thanks Matt.
There seems to be an unresolved deadlock since the birth of 1.8.
Using the most basic feature of a PBX, try to pickup some elses
ringing
extension - DEADLOCK.
But I'm on to it, https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=18654 and
it's
more
On 29/04/11 10:10 AM, Alec Davis wrote:
Thanks Matt.
There seems to be an unresolved deadlock since the birth of 1.8.
Using the most basic feature of a PBX, try to pickup some elses ringing
extension - DEADLOCK.
But I'm on to it, https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=18654 and it's
more
- Original Message -
I would comment that I've been complaining about this since RC1 or 2
and if you just fixed it in 2 hours that there is something seriously
wrong with the bug tracking system. I mean, I reported it a long
time ago and while it was probably not the best bug report
At 03:48 PM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
- Original Message -
I would comment that I've been complaining about this since RC1 or 2
and if you just fixed it in 2 hours that there is something seriously
wrong with the bug tracking system. I mean, I reported it a long
time ago and while it
On 11-04-28 06:39 PM, Ira wrote:
I would comment that I've been complaining about this since RC1 or 2 and
if you just fixed it in 2 hours that there is something seriously wrong
with the bug tracking system. I mean, I reported it a long time ago and
while it was probably not the best bug report
: Are we ready to
leave 1.4 behind?
- Original Message -
Sure. Please follow the 2 next stories:
- had a customer running 1.4.26 We upgraded to a new server and
installed 1.4.39, last version at this time. Bang:
voicemail doesn't
work as it should, had to fallback
On 11-04-28 07:02 PM, Ira wrote:
At 03:48 PM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
OK, maybe not, but if I thought it was a bug and you discover it was a bug and
fix it, than who was it who decided it wasn't a bug 15 minutes after I put it
in
the bug tracker and why did that person have that much power?
On 29/04/11 5:06 AM, Ira wrote:
At 05:56 AM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
If I can install 1.8 and
know that I can turn off things to get to 1.4 solidness, then I
don't
have a problem with this kettle of fish. BTW, where does 1.10 fit into
this
conversation?
Personally, 1.8 has never lasted more
On 11-04-28 07:09 PM, Alec Davis wrote:
Making an assumption here, I'm sure I cleared the remaining resequencing
issues up in 1.4 SVN and 1.6.2 SVN.
https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=19032
The issues I uncovered and fixed were when a new voicemail is left, while a
mailbox is open for
On 29/04/11 11:51 AM, Ernie Dunbar wrote:
On 29/04/11 5:06 AM, Ira wrote:
At 05:56 AM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
If I can install 1.8 and
know that I can turn off things to get to 1.4 solidness, then I
don't
have a problem with this kettle of fish. BTW, where does 1.10 fit into
this
conversation?
At 04:49 PM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
Well the issue is that we currently have over 900 open issues in the Asterisk
project alone, and with only one primary bug marshal (myself) sometimes things
accidentally get closed if it looks like a configuration issue.
If anyone ever opens an issue they they
.
Alec Davis
-Original Message-
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of
Leif Madsen
Sent: Friday, 29 April 2011 12:03 p.m.
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Discussion: Are we
On 29/04/11 1:16 PM, Ira wrote:
Well, I've no idea how to do that. I can duplicate the problem every
IRC is an online chat system like MSN or Skype except that it's more
like a mailing list - you can talk to lots of people at the same time.
On Windows you can use a program like mIRC to
On 29/04/11 2:15 PM, Alec Davis wrote:
Let me try to better describe the test senario that I found, and have been
commited to 1.4svn, 1.6.2svn 1.8svn and trunk.
All aspects need to be thrased out though.
Leave Phone-A 2 new messages, and for this example we only have 2 new
messages.
Now to
-Original Message-
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Olle E. Johansson
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:34 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] Discussion:
- Original Message -
Friends,
SNIP
Unfortunately, I think this is way too early. My feeling and
experience is that 1.8 is not ready for production in the environments
I work in - large scale installations. Customers are not planning
migration and all new installs are still 1.4.
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Olle E. Johansson o...@edvina.net wrote:
Friends,
We have a discussion on asterisk-dev about the maintenance of the 1.4 branch.
According to the release plans, support for 1.4 was scheduled to close in
April 2011 - basically now. After that, only security
I(me, my opinion, my feelings, my commercial view) am on the side of
dropping support for 1.4 and 1.6. 1.8 had some major issues which are
resolved/being worked on with more energy as older platforms are shut
down. If a large enough security issue showed up, I hope we would all
try to do
Le 27/04/2011 21:34, Olle E. Johansson a écrit :
Friends,
We have a discussion on asterisk-dev about the maintenance of the 1.4 branch.
According to the release plans, support for 1.4 was scheduled to close in April
2011 - basically now. After that, only security patches would be committed.
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
The Digium team wants to go ahead and not support 1.4 any more, I want
to keep 1.4 open for normal bug fixes. What do you think?
I would like to see continued bug and security fixes for 1.4 for some time
yet.
As well as a raft of hosted
I agree 100%, it's too early.
There is a lot of businnes out of there based on 1.4 (even still 1.2),
and my feelings is that a lot of people is not going to upgrade the
asterisk version, they are going to stay with 1.4 for a long time yet.
Also i wanna add another little consideration. Voip
- Original Message -
From: Olle E. Johansson o...@edvina.net
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:34:03 PM
Subject: [asterisk-users] Discussion: Are we ready to leave 1.4 behind?
Friends,
We
We have a discussion on asterisk-dev about the maintenance of the 1.4 branch.
According to the release plans, support for 1.4 was scheduled to close in
April 2011 - basically now. After that, only security patches would be
committed. This is already a delay from the original plan published
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