Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Christopher Harrington
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Benny Amorsen benny+use...@amorsen.dkwrote: Gergo Csibra csi...@gmail.com writes: Complaining about top posting on a list where's no moderation, no sanction if somebody top posting is pointless. There is a sanction. People like me will score top posters

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Eric Wieling
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Harrington Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:50 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Steven Howes
On 2 Jan 2013, at 15:54, Eric Wieling wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Benny Amorsen benny+use...@amorsen.dk wrote: There is a sanction. People like me will score top posters lower and soon not see their posts at all. I'm the opposite. I'm likely not to scroll down 10 pages to

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Danny Nicholas
] Top Posting -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Harrington Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:50 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Richard Kenner
I'm the opposite. I'm likely not to scroll down 10 pages to see the comments at the end. Wouldn't need to if people trimmed their posts properly. Precisely (e.g., see above)! Indeed, my sense is that top-posting *discourages* properly trimming email and that's my main reason against it.

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Danny Nicholas
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kenner Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:00 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting I'm the opposite. I'm

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Don Kelly
I'm the opposite. I'm likely not to scroll down 10 pages to see the comments at the end. Wouldn't need to if people trimmed their posts properly. Precisely (e.g., see above)! Indeed, my sense is that top-posting *discourages* properly trimming email and that's my main reason against it.

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Steve Totaro
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Richard Kenner ken...@gnat.com wrote: I'm the opposite. I'm likely not to scroll down 10 pages to see the comments at the end. Wouldn't need to if people trimmed their posts properly. Precisely (e.g., see above)! Indeed, my sense is that top-posting

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Richard Kenner
In this properly trimmed example, there's no record of who said what. When it's relevant, I trim in such a way that that information is preserved. But I would *never* leave in a header, just the identification of the person who typed that part. Most mailers, when you include text from another

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Richard Kenner
If things were properly trimmed, the email would be short enough that it really doesn't matter that much if the new material is on the top or bottom, but people who top-post and don't trim create really hard-to-follow emails. Not really true often times when people do the right thing

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread j...@millican.us
On 1/2/2013 11:30 AM, Richard Kenner wrote: If things were properly trimmed, the email would be short enough that it really doesn't matter that much if the new material is on the top or bottom, but people who top-post and don't trim create really hard-to-follow emails. Not really true often

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread j...@millican.us
On 1/2/2013 12:00 PM, j...@millican.us wrote: On 1/2/2013 11:30 AM, Richard Kenner wrote: If things were properly trimmed, the email would be short enough that it really doesn't matter that much if the new material is on the top or bottom, but people who top-post and don't trim create really

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Danny Nicholas
Grow up, follow the rules, have a good day. JohnM PS. Did not intend to imply that it was Steve that hijacked the thread, in case anyone read my comment that way JohnM Steve has waded through enough of these that he should be a hijacker. --

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Steve Totaro
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:00 PM, j...@millican.us j...@millican.us wrote: On 1/2/2013 11:30 AM, Richard Kenner wrote: If things were properly trimmed, the email would be short enough that it really doesn't matter that much if the new material is on the top or bottom, but people who top-post

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread j...@millican.us
On 1/2/2013 12:20 PM, Steve Totaro wrote: On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:00 PM, j...@millican.us j...@millican.us wrote: On 1/2/2013 11:30 AM, Richard Kenner wrote: If things were properly trimmed, the email would be short enough that it really doesn't matter that much if the new material is on the

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread jon pounder
On 01/02/2013 12:20 PM, Steve Totaro wrote: good one - me too ! On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:00 PM, j...@millican.us j...@millican.us wrote: On 1/2/2013 11:30 AM, Richard Kenner wrote: If things were properly trimmed, the email would be short enough that it really doesn't matter that much if

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Ira
At 08:22 AM 1/2/2013, you wrote: Wouldn't need to if people trimmed their posts properly. Precisely (e.g., see above)! Indeed, my sense is that top-posting *discourages* properly trimming email and that's my main reason against it. If things were properly trimmed, the email would be short

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Don Kelly
It is not hard to follow the rules . If the nice folks at Digium took the time to post rules we should at least TRY to follow them. If you do not like the rules you can always petition Digium to change them but, taking up bandwidth on the list in this all to frequent pissing match is a futile

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Carlos Alvarez
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Ira i...@extrasensory.com wrote: And I started communicating with a 2400 baud modem so trimming was a necessity and a requirement of friendship. Bah, spoiled kids. Mine was a 110 baud acoustic. I think the Will Asterisk run on a Rasberry Pi thread the

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread j...@millican.us
On 1/2/2013 1:10 PM, Don Kelly wrote: It is not hard to follow the rules . If the nice folks at Digium took the time to post rules we should at least TRY to follow them. If you do not like the rules you can always petition Digium to change them but, taking up bandwidth on the list in this all

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 02/01/2013 1:11 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote: On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Ira i...@extrasensory.com mailto:i...@extrasensory.com wrote: And I started communicating with a 2400 baud modem so trimming was a necessity and a requirement of friendship. Bah, spoiled kids. Mine was a

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Patrick Lists
On 01/02/2013 07:11 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote: The number of questions posted here that are easily answered with a search or which are far too basic and open (how do I make Asterisk work) is very high these days, and that does kill a list. A lot of us are interested in helping people who help

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Don Kelly
On 1/2/2013 Don Kelly wrote: ... what product/procedure/whatever would enable me to follow and participate in bottom-posted discussions as it doesn't appear that Outlook or gmail are very effective. Umm, what about positioning the cursor below the previous post before writing your reply in

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Patrick Lists
On 01/02/2013 06:20 PM, Steve Totaro wrote: I became a list member way before any such rule and never had to click through and agree to these update ToS. I am grandfathered in. Just looked it up. I see my first post back in April 2003, yours in September 2003 and Jon in March 2003. Wow you

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Steve Totaro
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:25 PM, j...@millican.us j...@millican.us wrote: On 1/2/2013 12:20 PM, Steve Totaro wrote: On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:00 PM, j...@millican.us j...@millican.us wrote: On 1/2/2013 11:30 AM, Richard Kenner wrote: If things were properly trimmed, the email would be

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Markus Weiler
Hi, one more hint... (trying to translate the commands to english) in Thunderbird open - Extras - Filter.. - Filter-Name: enter Top Posting Subject - Contains: enter Top Posting Action: Delete Markus Am 02.01.2013 21:31, schrieb Steve Totaro: On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:25 PM,

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Jim Lucas
On 01/02/2013 12:16 PM, Don Kelly wrote: I don't think Outlook does what I'd like, so I'm not limiting my options. I can use different email to keep track of the Asterisk lists. Thunderbird (by default) bottom posts. And it does the nice indenting and allows you to turn off that HTML crap...

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread jon pounder
On 01/02/2013 03:22 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: On 01/02/2013 06:20 PM, Steve Totaro wrote: I became a list member way before any such rule and never had to click through and agree to these update ToS. I am grandfathered in. Just looked it up. I see my first post back in April 2003, yours in

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Steve Totaro
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:46 PM, jon pounder j...@inline.net wrote: On 01/02/2013 03:22 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: On 01/02/2013 06:20 PM, Steve Totaro wrote: I became a list member way before any such rule and never had to click through and agree to these update ToS. I am grandfathered in.

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread jon pounder
On 01/02/2013 03:35 PM, Jim Lucas wrote: On 01/02/2013 12:16 PM, Don Kelly wrote: I don't think Outlook does what I'd like, so I'm not limiting my options. I can use different email to keep track of the Asterisk lists. Thunderbird (by default) bottom posts. And it does the nice indenting

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Don Kelly
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of jon pounder Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 2:57 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On 01/02/2013 03:35 PM, Jim Lucas wrote

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2013-01-02 Thread Patrick Lists
On 01/02/2013 09:46 PM, jon pounder wrote: On 01/02/2013 03:22 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: On 01/02/2013 06:20 PM, Steve Totaro wrote: I became a list member way before any such rule and never had to click through and agree to these update ToS. I am grandfathered in. Just looked it up. I see

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-31 Thread Steven Howes
We should all top *AND* bottom post! On 31 Dec 2012, at 06:03, isr...@gmail.com wrote: Just my pitch in to post From a blackberry you can only top post there is no way of bottom posting So if I would have to wait to get to a computer to bottom post I would just never answer We should all

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-31 Thread Benny Amorsen
isr...@gmail.com writes: Just my pitch in to post From a blackberry you can only top post there is no way of bottom posting So if I would have to wait to get to a computer to bottom post I would just never answer Just delete the original post then. Not including context is perfectly fine,

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-31 Thread Danny Nicholas
*** *** Until Monopolysoft fixes Outlook, I think we should Middle Post - Happy New Year to New Zealand! *** *** -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-31 Thread Danny Nicholas
My assembler may be a little bit rusty, but wouldn't -1 against rule #5 = +1 for rule #5? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-31 Thread Don Kelly
Deleting everything would really confuse me -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-31 Thread Don Kelly
Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting We should all top *AND* bottom post! On 31 Dec 2012, at 06:03, isr...@gmail.com wrote: Just my pitch in to post From a blackberry you can only top post there is no way of bottom posting So if I would have to wait to get to a computer to bottom post

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-31 Thread Danny Nicholas
List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting Tongue firmly in both cheeks? How do you do that? -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steven Howes Sent: Monday, December 31

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread Ron Wheeler
I participate in a lot of lists and top posting is now the norm since people want to see quickly if the message is worth reading. If the poster wants to intersperse comments in the following text, they announce that at the top so readers know to look further down. Modern e-mail programs make it

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 12/30/2012 04:26 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote: I participate in a lot of lists and top posting is now the norm since people want to see quickly if the message is worth reading. Isn't it a bit of a stretch to extrapolate your experience with your lists to top posting being the norm? I am

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread Gergo Csibra
Sunday, December 30, 2012, 5:13:30 PM, Patrick wrote: On 12/30/2012 04:26 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote: I participate in a lot of lists and top posting is now the norm since people want to see quickly if the message is worth reading. Isn't it a bit of a stretch to extrapolate your experience with

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread Benny Amorsen
Gergo Csibra csi...@gmail.com writes: Complaining about top posting on a list where's no moderation, no sanction if somebody top posting is pointless. There is a sanction. People like me will score top posters lower and soon not see their posts at all. It is often a quick way to see if it is

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread jon pounder
On 12/30/2012 03:54 PM, Benny Amorsen wrote: Boy what an elitist attitude. I have been on this list far longer than most people - long before digium even existed and if you don't value what I have to say - well just don't read it. If you or your mail reader can't slice and dice a mailing

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread Steve Edwards
On Sun, 30 Dec 2012, jon pounder wrote: If you or your mail reader can't slice and dice a mailing list the way you want to see it well maybe its your opinions us top posters won't miss, since clearly you are lacking the skills to even have your tools format documents for you. And let the

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 30/12/2012 11:13 AM, Patrick Lists wrote: On 12/30/2012 04:26 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote: I participate in a lot of lists and top posting is now the norm since people want to see quickly if the message is worth reading. Isn't it a bit of a stretch to extrapolate your experience with your

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 30/12/2012 3:54 PM, Benny Amorsen wrote: Gergo Csibra csi...@gmail.com writes: Complaining about top posting on a list where's no moderation, no sanction if somebody top posting is pointless. There is a sanction. People like me will score top posters lower and soon not see their posts at

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread James Mortensen
I have an idea! Instead of arguing over whether or not top posting or bottom posting is the way to go, something that obviously no one will *ever*agree on, why not move to Google Groups instead (or something similar to Google Groups). When I post to Doubango's list, it's easy, there's no top or

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread James Mortensen
Sorry for double posting, but I realized it was JIRA I spoke with Digium about, not Google Groups and the mailing list... However, I do think it's worth investigating or looking into alternatives that are more user friendly and that can make it easier to communicate with everyone on the list,

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread Steve Totaro
Yeah. I never really got the whole fanatical top vs bottom thing. Whatever, I have answered way more than my fair share of free questions (as in beer). The person asking was always quite happy to get a meaningful and helpful reply, no matter where it was in the body of the content. Why people

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread Ron Wheeler
I just wish that my biggest problem with Asterisk was top or bottom posting! Ron On 30/12/2012 9:45 PM, James Mortensen wrote: Sorry for double posting, but I realized it was JIRA I spoke with Digium about, not Google Groups and the mailing list... However, I do think it's worth investigating

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread Carlos Alvarez
There's nothing wrong with the list. The current whining will die off and things will be back to normal shortly. Meanwhile I was tempted to bin the entire thread then realized there's some funny human psychology to be laughed at. Top posting to make a few people crazy. Normally I wouldn't.

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-30 Thread isrlgb
...@lists.digium.com Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:58:20 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.com Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-29 Thread Steve Edwards
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Don Kelly wrote: 2.   How do we change rule #5? -1. -- Thanks in advance, - Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-29 Thread Pete Mundy
On 30/12/2012, Steve Edwards wrote: On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Don Kelly wrote: 2. How do we change rule #5? -1. + -1 from me too! Ie I dislike top-posting on mailing lists and if a democratic approach was taken to rule changes (I have no idea is this is the case?) then I would vote

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-29 Thread Logan Bibby
I'm a +1 for the change, should it come to a vote. I realize the benefits of bottom-posting, especially when posting inline. But top-posting keeps things in reverse chronological order so any reader could catch up quickly on any missed messages in the chain. A new reader scrolls to the bottom and

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-29 Thread Richard Kenner
I realize the benefits of bottom-posting, especially when posting inline. But top-posting keeps things in reverse chronological order so any reader could catch up quickly on any missed messages in the chain. A new reader scrolls to the bottom and reads up. What's there to catch up with if you

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-29 Thread Logan Bibby
I suppose I'm one of the few people that remember the content of threads by subject and easily catch up... I'm also on my phone 99% of the time time and the way Gmail lays out emails makes top-posting beneficial to me. On Dec 29, 2012 8:57 PM, Richard Kenner ken...@gnat.com wrote: I realize

Re: [asterisk-users] Top posting - there is no rule.

2011-04-03 Thread Warren Selby
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Alec Davis siva...@paradise.net.nz wrote: What's with the occasional Un-Top-posting, there is no rule that says you can't, http://www.asterisk.org/community/rules Really? Why bring this up again? The last 60-some odd thread in January wasn't long enough for

Re: [asterisk-users] Top posting - there is no rule.

2011-04-03 Thread Alec Davis
Really? Why bring this up again? The last 60-some odd thread in January wasn't long enough for you? Or perhaps you're just out looking to troll?From the page you linked: 5.Responses should be placed under the original quoted text. Sorry my mistake, didn't read to bottom of the

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-20 Thread Cary Fitch
How amusing that you follow that statement by being too lazy to trim all of the irrelevant crud after your comment by pressing ctrl-shift-end followed by delete. It works in Outlook. Tom This is the problem, everyone has a personal goal. One side wants fast replies at the top, with no

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-20 Thread Danny Nicholas
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Cary Fitch Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:06 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting How

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-19 Thread C F
- Non-Commercial Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.com Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion        asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 02:31 +, James Miller wrote: I hate to disagree but I find

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-19 Thread Jason Parker
On 01/19/2011 12:18 AM, randulo wrote: Although there's no requisite mention of ${Horrible_Dictator}, can't we pretend there was, call a Godwin and kill this subject? That would fall under Quirk's Exception: Intentionally invoking Godwin's Law to attempt to kill a thread is rarely successful.

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-19 Thread Don Kelly
On 01/19/2011 12:18 AM, randulo wrote: Although there's no requisite mention of ${Horrible_Dictator}, can't we pretend there was, call a Godwin and kill this subject? 11:39 Parker said That would fall under Quirk's Exception: Intentionally invoking Godwin's Law to attempt to kill a

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-19 Thread randulo
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Don Kelly d...@donkelly.biz wrote: 11:39 Parker said That would fall under Quirk's Exception: Intentionally invoking Godwin's Law to attempt to kill a thread is rarely successful. :) Didn't work this time :) Slightly OT: why is the Gmail ad server, which is

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-19 Thread Mark Deneen
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:37 PM, randulo rand...@randulo.com wrote: Slightly OT: why is the Gmail ad server, which is usually all about PBX, Asterisk, etc, now showing me Justin Beiber concert tickets on this thread? Are they seeing it as that childish? /r Also OT: Google combines message

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-19 Thread Danny Nicholas
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mark Deneen Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:43 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On Wed

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Rymes
On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:06 AM, C F wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM, James Miller paramedi...@gmail.com wrote: When you get over 500 emails a day on your blackberry you have make a decision on what is or is not worth reading at that moment. Its not lazy at all its cutting through the

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-19 Thread randulo
Also OT:  Google combines message context with your personal search history to do ad targeting, so look in the mirror. I just made that up, though. Not your mirror - your cookies! No, it's true! Now I'm seeing Untimate Black Hat SEO (yes misspelled because Ultimate was too expensive) I was

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Andrew Thomas
@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On 01/17/2011 08:26 PM, Matt Riddell wrote: On 17/01/11 4:29 PM, jon pounder wrote: Surely there is some mail client smart enough to be able to flip around the levels of indenting so most recent is top or bottom. If not quit bitching and make

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Belanger
On 11-01-18 04:22 AM, Andrew Thomas wrote: Top posting? Who cares? Get a life! Clearly not you, so why both even replying? At worst case it is just redundant information for people, best case somebody reads the email thread at starts bottom posting. I suggest taking a moment and re-reading

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Andrew Thomas
mine :P Have a nice day! -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Paul Belanger Sent: 18 January 2011 14:35 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Vince Vielhaber
] On Behalf Of Paul Belanger Sent: 18 January 2011 14:35 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On 11-01-18 04:22 AM, Andrew Thomas wrote: Top posting? Who cares? Get a life! Clearly not you, so why both even replying? At worst case

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Fred Posner
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 15:18 +, Andrew Thomas wrote: Why do I top post? Simple. I read every message in the thread - and if there are 10 messages (for example) in that thread - then why should I have to read them all over again on the last one? Top posting is here - to stay! Stop

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Joel Maslak
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Andrew Thomas a...@datavox.co.uk wrote: Why do I top post?  Simple.  I read every message in the thread - and if there are 10 messages (for example) in that thread - then why should I have to read them all over again on the last one? That's not the alternative

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Andrew Thomas
I also agree this is a pointless discussion because, clearly, nobody is willing to budge, and it has nothing to do with Asterisk. Amen :) [oh no, a bottom post] If you have received this communication in error we would appreciate you advising us either by telephone or return of e-mail. The

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Danny Nicholas
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:01 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting I

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Don Kelly
I also agree this is a pointless discussion because, clearly, nobody is willing to budge, and it has nothing to do with Asterisk. Amen :) It may yet have a point - another few hundred (thousand) of these and the board will blacklist items with the words top post and bottom post :) And maybe If

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Don Kelly
I'm top-posting this simply to be consistent with the previous couple posts. I agree that top-posting is preferable for the reason that Andrew pointed out and I prefer no trimming (other than signatures--especially legal disclaimers, etc.) so I can delete every message except the most recent and

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 03:18:49PM -, Andrew Thomas wrote: Why do I top post? Simple. I read every message in the thread - and if there are 10 messages (for example) in that thread - then why should I have to read them all over again on the last one? You mean: why should I have to read

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Andrew Thomas
SEE THE BOTTOM :P -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: 18 January 2011 16:18 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On Tue, Jan 18, 2011

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread A J Stiles
On Tuesday 18 Jan 2011, Don Kelly wrote: PLONK is retro--like bottom-posting :) --Don Retro? For those of us who actually know what PLONK means, it's hilarious. The fact that some people *don't* know what it means only makes it doubly so. Now, here is a link that those of us who remember a

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread markus_weiler
Now this thread is really starting to annoy me Dieses Video enthlt Content von WMG. Es ist in deinem Land nicht verfgbar. ..for non

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Don Kelly
On Tuesday 18 Jan 2011, Don Kelly wrote: PLONK is retro--like bottom-posting :) --Don boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of A J Stiles Retro? For those of us who actually know what PLONK means, it's hilarious. Now, here is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1JXYgwwDeY

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Tom Rymes
On 01/18/2011 10:18 AM, Andrew Thomas wrote: Why do I top post? Simple. I read every message in the thread - and if there are 10 messages (for example) in that thread - then why should I have to read them all over again on the last one? OK, this is a stupid thread, nobody is going to be

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread MrHanMan
I've been working with computers for over 40 years and don't have the foggiest notion how the Green Day--Wake Me Up When September Ends video applies to Top Posting. It's a reference to the Everlasting September in 1993. AOL added usenet access to its service, unleashing a horde of dirty,

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Don Kelly
I've been working with computers for over 40 years and don't have the foggiest notion how the Green Day--Wake Me Up When September Ends video applies to Top Posting. It's a reference to the Everlasting September in 1993. AOL added usenet access to its service, unleashing a horde of dirty,

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread John Novack
Tom Rymes wrote: On 01/18/2011 10:18 AM, Andrew Thomas wrote: Why do I top post? Simple. I read every message in the thread - and if there are 10 messages (for example) in that thread - then why should I have to read them all over again on the last one? OK, this is a stupid thread, nobody

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Chad Wallace
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:17:31 +0200 Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: It is interesting to note that your mailer (MS-Outlook) has very bad support for threading. In fact, it (combined with the MS-Exchange server) does not really bother reproducing the mail headers that are required

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Chris Owen
On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Chad Wallace wrote: We need to ban all versions of outlook until microsoft decides to fix it. Amen. Chris -- - Chris Owen - Garden City (620) 275-1900 - Lottery (noun): President

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Belanger
On 11-01-18 07:42 PM, Chad Wallace wrote: We need to ban all versions of outlook until microsoft decides to fix it. Moderation would be another option (personally opinion). Regardless, we should all now be aware of the rules [1] of the mailing lists. All we can do now is hope people respect

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread Cary Fitch
Paul Belanger wrote: Moderation would be another option (personally opinion). Regardless, we should all now be aware of the rules [1] of the mailing lists. All we can do now is hope people respect them. [1] http://www.asterisk.org/community/rules -- Paul Belanger Digium, Inc. |

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-18 Thread randulo
Although there's no requisite mention of ${Horrible_Dictator}, can't we pretend there was, call a Godwin and kill this subject? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-17 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Sunday 16 January 2011 21:18:54 William Kenworthy wrote: Peoples email clients, work habits and environment mean that people to work the way thats comfortable to them. You want your mails read, you work with them, not get on a soap box and say YOU MUST BOTTOM POST. That was exactly my

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-17 Thread Danny Nicholas
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:53 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-17 Thread Mark Deneen
List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On Sunday 16 January 2011 21:18:54 William Kenworthy wrote: Peoples email clients, work habits and environment mean that people to work the way thats comfortable to them.  You want your mails read, you work with them

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-17 Thread Matt Riddell
On 17/01/11 4:29 PM, jon pounder wrote: Surely there is some mail client smart enough to be able to flip around the levels of indenting so most recent is top or bottom. If not quit bitching and make one - I will continue top posting since I don't seem to be alone in preferring it. I'm

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-17 Thread Mark Murawski
On 01/17/2011 08:26 PM, Matt Riddell wrote: On 17/01/11 4:29 PM, jon pounder wrote: Surely there is some mail client smart enough to be able to flip around the levels of indenting so most recent is top or bottom. If not quit bitching and make one - I will continue top posting since I don't seem

Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2011-01-16 Thread Lesly Dorval
Shaun Ruffell sruffell at digium.com writes: Whatever your preferred style, the following post is at least worth considering. http://brooksreview.net/2011/01/interleaved-email/ My belief is that it would be nearly impossible for me to follow a high volume list if top posting was the

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