That's today. I would hope and assume that this changes in the future.+1On 9/2/06, Asbjørn Ulsberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:19:35 +0200, James Holderness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because a feed appears to contain well-formed xhtml content today, that doesn't mean it's
Thanks for the response/info Sam!On 8/31/06, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, there are a number of tools that attempt to produce well-formedXHTML, but don't do so consistently enough to drop the content into anAtom feed in such a manner.I assume this is from an XHTML standpoint (meaning
+1 - Definitely would be useful as a suggestion.On 8/31/06, Asbjørn Ulsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:50:56 +0200, Sam Ruby
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Also, there are a number of tools that attempt to produce well-formed XHTML, but don't do so consistently enough to drop the
Both points well taken.I would like to change my initial vote to -1, though +1 for both James and Aristotle's follow-up.On 8/31/06, A. Pagaltzis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:* James Holderness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-01 01:30]: Encouraging people to use xhtml when they don't know enough to have
I assume you all are already aware, but just in case http://blogs.msdn.com/yassers/archive/2006/06/15/632436.aspxIf not mistaken, I think this would allow me to pretty much kill the AtomicRSS project.
Yay! Less projects on my plate is ALWAYS a good thing :D-- /M:DM. David
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http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2005/09/part_3_assets_atom_feeds_and_a.htmlOn 6/9/06, M. David Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Feed composed with multiple sources with different licenses.
When a feed
Very well stated, Aristotle!On 6/8/06, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Karl Dubost [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-08 04:30]: Which will not remove abuse :)Well, will anything short of not publishing your content?I think the point of such an effort is to make life easier for
third parties who
and
Atom in general. We mainly center the discussion around aggregators but
I hope you all agree that Atom aims at much more than simple news feed,
right?
- Sylvain
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Hey John,In this example, does rel=license represent a tagged reference or the URI to the location of the license?On 6/7/06, John Panzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Elliotte Harold wrote:
John Panzer wrote: I'm attempting to promote the use of explicit licenses in feeds, and Creative Commons is one
Okay, cool... This is the first I've seen this, but that obviously nothing of any great concern.I guess my next question is the same as what what you, Elliotte, and Karl have already made the primary focus of this thread,
* Beyond providing a way of referencing what license(s) applies to any given
of blindly truncating text.
My major question is whether a headline only feed is an alternate
representation, or perhaps an index to the full feed, or perhaps a new
relation (or two) is needed.
Thoughts?
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I was following this thread, and was doing my best to keep my mouth shut, but I can't do that any longer. I will avoid making statements that are intended to offend.What I will say is this: Messages specifically labeled 'off-list' should be respected as such. There are a million different reasons
I've chosen a shut-up and code approach to the overall Atom-related projects I have going, something I'm sure many of you, if not noticed, are none-the-less thankful for the break :)However, I thought I would point out part of the comments from this mornings checkin,
couple things of major
enforcement using RNG, Schematron, XML Schema, etc... On 5/24/06,
M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've chosen a shut-up and code approach to the overall Atom-related projects I have going, something I'm sure many of you, if not noticed, are none-the-less thankful for the break :)However
v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEbJ00NF1RSzyt3NURAh/GAJ9Y3bOdSRu8sjL7fQJRyPK2gT8lawCghrPZ
oR6vRLed4adw0a6ssgJvO2M= =Bb/z -END PGP SIGNATURE--- M:D/M. David Peterson
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a:f id=idoffeed a:ds=1a:e id=idofentry a:r=2a:c id=idofcomment a:r=1a:c id=idofcomment a:r=2/
/a:c/a:ea:e id=idofentry: a:r=3//a:fThe requestor sends a request for all entries and comments on those entiries since a certain date. If the date request is considered reasonable, a compact atom syntax
Also recently started on a AJAX-based APP client to go with it.
Very cool! This is something I can help with if needs be... I'm still trying to get my legs in Python, and with some missing holes in IronPython to allow Demokritos to run natively have held the AtomicRSS.NET project off for now and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-04 23:30]:
Or is something like this simply inviting WAY TOO MANY little things to find justification to plug up the collective inbox of the community members?I don't know. So far during extension development discussions,
only
So kind of like a best practice doc?
On 5/5/06, David Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Friday, May 5, 2006, 12:20:25 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * M. David Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-04 23:30]: Or is something like this simply inviting WAY TOO MANY little things to find justification to plug
I've got several.
GlobalClip (trac:http://dev.extensibleforge.net/wiki/GlobalClipsvn: svn://src.extensibleforge.net/trunk/GlobalClip)
An implementation of MS's LiveClipboard that (for the moment) uses S3 as a way of storing and accessing content that someone wants to either allow public access,
, but better results to showcase.On 5/5/06, M. David Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've got several.
GlobalClip (trac:http://dev.extensibleforge.net/wiki/GlobalClipsvn: svn://src.extensibleforge.net/trunk/GlobalClip)
An implementation of MS's LiveClipboard that (for the moment) uses S3 as a way
Just a note: When you consider that what people gain is, in essence, a simplified way to gain access to information that is otherwise accessible, just at a higher over-the-wire , and processor intensive cost, then it makes a lot of sense to create an extensible namespace/specification devoted
for (as far as I know anyway) for being the first off-the-line... If nothing else, theres reward in such knowledge in and of itself, but I hope you win either way :)
On 5/3/06, Mihai Sucan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le Tue, 02 May 2006 23:41:10 +0300, M. David Peterson[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Very cool
, the Opera community would prefer
that bug reports don't come through the ratings channel.
Thanks in advance!
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for the response and for taking the steps to get it fixed! :)
On 5/2/06, Mihai Sucan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le Tue, 02 May 2006 20:51:41 +0300, M. David Peterson[EMAIL PROTECTED]
a écrit: I can only assume that someone from Opera is on this list, and I'm not even sure this is that big of a deal
know there'll be a few idiots that will try that on.
e.
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| April 14, 2006 09:10 AM
before I post a bug to FeedDemon for something they are already aware
of, does anybody know if they are?
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Cool! Thanks James :)
On 4/20/06, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No idea if they're already aware. I'd go ahead and report it.
M. David Peterson wrote:
http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2006/04/update_hello_saxon_on_net_an_a.html#comment-25653
Steven, according to the feed
http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2006/04/update_hello_saxon_on_net_an_a.html#comment-25975
Thanks James!
On 4/20/06, James Holderness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
M. David Peterson wrote:
Are you aware that those of us who read your blog in an aggregator
such as FeedDemon see all the HTML
I misread I'd as I'll --
My bad... I'll make the report :)
On 4/20/06, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No idea if they're already aware. I'd go ahead and report it.
M. David Peterson wrote:
http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2006/04/update_hello_saxon_on_net_an_a.html#comment-25653
, but decided then to
just let it be. But in realizing that people might read the archives
and walk away completely baffled by my response I decided it would be
best to get this error properly documented.
On 3/31/06, M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and here I was holding this inside of me
fixed
http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2006/04/update_hello_saxon_on_net_an_a.html#comment-25989
On 4/20/06, M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I misread I'd as I'll --
My bad... I'll make the report :)
On 4/20/06, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No idea if they're
runtime display. Download Get #Sh3ll-2 .0.zip now ! http://s3.amazonaws.com/sharpSh3ll/sharpSh3ll-2.0.zip
---On 4/13/06, M. David Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:D Okay, now I feel like an idiot :D Right on... well I'll make sure that the output validates for both Atom and RSS and ping back
?messageID=37055#37055
http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/thread.jspa?messageID=37055#37055 -- M:D/ M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/
-- M:D/M. David Petersonhttp://www.xsltblog.com/
://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/thread.jspa?messageID=37055#37055
http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/thread.jspa?messageID=37055#37055 -- M:D/ M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/
-- M:D/M. David Petersonhttp://www.xsltblog.com/
37MB">http://s3.amazonaws.com/dds/37MB /M. David Peterson wrote: re: Invalid link syntax link
http://s3.amazonaws.com/dds/37MB/link Are you refering to the white space or the '37MB' (or both)?Just to note, the 37MB is an object on the S3 server in which you can store meta data along with
Dominic's recent reply:Yes I will ensure they are valid using feedvalidator. Thanks.
-DominicOn 4/13/06, M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:D Okay, now I feel like an idiot :D Right on... well I'll make sure that the output validates for both Atom and RSS and ping back when
Hey Folks,Great discussion going on here... Thanks! http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2006/04/the_power_of_the_people.html
On 4/12/06, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* David Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-04-13 00:15]: This seems to be the wrong priority to me.Convincing arguments, IMHO;
FYI... http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/thread.jspa?messageID=37055#37055-- M:D/
M. David Petersonhttp://www.xsltblog.com/
Hosting is not the point.Yep. 'tis why I said the word backup.On 3/31/06, A. Pagaltzis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-04-01 03:15]: Obviously the main wiki would be better, but if this can act as a backup plan, then let me know if and when and I will set up
Oh, I agree that if this can be done in a consistent manner, then using the xml:base attribute on each //entry/content element would be absolutely WONDERFUL. The trick is to figure out howtoensureaconsistentlevelofavaialability and accuracyofthevalue of eachinstanceof
content/@xml:base. In
hand*s*.On 3/31/06, M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, I agree that if this can be done in a consistent manner, then using the xml:base attribute on each //entry/content element would be absolutely WONDERFUL. The trick is to figure out howtoensureaconsistentlevelofavaialability
the proper base value in regards to the URI's that each will relate to, and for the most part be able to call it good.
You up for PowerHack ExtremeXSLT session sometime in the next few hours? :D
Regards,--Aristotle Pagaltzis // http://plasmasturm.org/
-- M:D/M. David Peterson
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anyone can throw at it will be GREATLY appreciated :)
On 3/31/06, Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:01 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-31 07:55]: I speaking in terms of mashups... If a feed comes from one
source, then I would agree
Good enough for me :) (although, I had already been convinced of this by the rest of you as well)On 3/31/06, Tim Bray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:20 PM, James M Snell wrote:
I would agree that, as a best practice, the xml:base should appear on the content element, but
://intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/XmlBaseConformanceTests
- Sam Ruby
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I have to wonder why xml:base would apply to anything other than the hardlineschemaspecific@hrefattributevalues of the structured document in which the schema directly applys to.Extending this,a good portion of an
@href attribute *or other attribute or elements who's value CAN or MUST be a URI/IRI* On 3/30/06, M. David Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have to wonder why xml:base would apply to anything other than the hardlineschemaspecific@hrefattributevalues of the structured document in which
Oopps Canadian *M*ount*ie*Sorry Tim! :)On 3/30/06, M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
@href attribute *or other attribute or elements who's value CAN or MUST be a URI/IRI*
On 3/30/06, M. David Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have to wonder why xml:base would apply to anything other
Then it should be a best practice thatifthey invoke this,thexml:basevalueshouldbesetupontheelementcontainingthetext,inthiscase,thecontentelement. Obviously youcan'tsimplyassumethatthecurrentxml:baseincontexthas
, Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 30, 2006, at 8:34 PM, M. David Peterson wrote: ...the content element can be basically anything as long as its either - non-escaped plain text with a @type value set to text, - escaped text,with a @type set to a valid 'text' mime-type
- enitity
xml:base said it was -Tim-- M:D/ M. David Peterson
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the xml:baseincurrentcontexthasanyvaluewhatsoever.
Pick a planet, any planet, and my point suddenly and immediattelly becomes relavent.On 3/30/06, Antone Roundy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 30, 2006, at 10:00 PM, M. David Peterson wrote: Then it should be a best practice that if they invoke this, the xml:base value should
http://understandingatom.com/ (made more evident via http://understandingatom.com/introspection (thanks Sylvain! :))
In regards tohowthisrelatestotheprogressofAtomicRSS,itswhatIamlabelingtemporarycompromisewhileIwaitforIronPython'sdirectimplementationofthesocketmodule(morecorrectly(Ibelieve)
!
On 3/22/06, David Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wednesday, March 22, 2006, 5:13:05 AM, M. David Peterson wrote: Hey Folks, With yesterdays build release of IE7, it seemed appropriate to run
aquick inventory check to see where things stand in regards to the derived MS/RSS conversion of a fairly
to finish as we go?
I'll get started on this now.
Thanks again!
On 3/22/06, David Powell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wednesday, March 22, 2006, 5:13:05 AM, M. David Peterson wrote: Hey Folks, With yesterdays build release of IE7, it seemed appropriate to run
aquick inventory check to see where
://trac.understandingatom.com/timeline?milestone=onticket=onchangeset=onwiki=onmax=50daysback=90format=rssEnjoy your day :)-- M:D/M. David Peterson
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Hey Folks,
Just finished up an IM conversation with DonXML and he pointed me to this list SourceForge list as the proper entry point to begin discussions regarding the potential integration of a project that has already been started that is focused on bringing layeredsupport for the Atom web feed
Hey Folks,
With yesterdays build release of IE7, it seemed appropriate to run aquick inventory check to see where things stand in regards to the derived MS/RSS conversion of a fairly element/attribute usage heavyAtom feed.Here's the overallbreakdown.
Process:
I took a quick snapshot of the atom
real thought into this area, and obviously I
need to put a lot more.
Thanks again for clearing things up and providing the links!
On 3/15/06, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 10:36:36PM -0700,
M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
a message of 43 lines
. They are undefined, which *I* think means
that implementations need not feel bad about dropping them on the
floor. The official meaning is, er, undefined.
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constructs.
For atom:uri and atom:email at least, not having xml:lang may
be seen as a feature. While these often contain pieces from one
language or another, they are not really in a language.
Regards, Martin.
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at the community level.
Not a bad tradeoff/risk either way. :)Thoughts, criticisms, suggestions?-- M:D/M. David Peterson
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at least a couple hundred folks myself that I know would be happy to publish such information as long as this information stayed within the confines of the end user and developer licensing agreements. Which it would.
On 3/9/06, M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When you provide information
Aristotle,
Both of these are services, not browsers. As a service, its understandable... Limited serverresources would justify this, as would the need to cache the data feed, and the related transformation or css files. However, when the client accesses the feed directly from the browser, the
.
On 3/9/06, M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this is a feed intended for rendering in an aggregator andPublishers' don't have control over the look of their feed in otherreaders.WHAT???Are you kidding me...If by other readers you are choosing
to exclude those that do, then thats just lame
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/9/06, M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If, in fact, what you mean by this *IS* that its the end users choice, then I would tend to agree... as long as the option exists.
That was, actually, what I was trying to say. You are publishing an XML feed
://trac.understandingatom.com/wiki/BrowserBasedAtom%26RSSOn 3/9/06,
M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lets try that again, to everyone this time:
I think we are both on the same page. I'm glad to see that. I was suddenly beginning to feel like I had missed something somewhere
For example, because the feed view is part of the client, instructions
explaining what a feed is, and why subscribing is a useful and interesting
thing to do are presented in the user's system language, regardless of
the language of the feed. If the user chooses, they can turn off the IE feed
Hey Aristotle,
Thanks for the reply!
On 3/9/06, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, one of them (NetNewsWire) is a desktop application. Like alldesktop aggregators, it throws away any styling information
associated with the feed via XML means. Many of them will evenfilter away (some of) the
* Why can't I publish my own stylesheet and use these Microsoftelements for collation, background, etc.This Microsoft stylesheet shouldbe replaceable. *
I would say this is a quite valid question.
Is this capability planned and has simply not been implmented at this stage? I realize the look and
James, Heres the thing that Aristotle nailed on the head, that should have been painfully obvious to me as this is something I learned when I was just a wee little thing running around building 5 of MS campus, a part of MS termed the Old
M.S. Campus (not to be confused with the Old Old MS
Of course I wish I hadn't made such a damn fool of myself in taking such a strong and -- I guess extended would be an appropriate word :) -- responsethis morning when I chose to write the Master Thesis I never quite got around to during my college years regarding the reasons they were wrong and I
Still quite a bit of general site inrastructure to finish off, but the trac instance is now live and ready for contributions as anyone might see fit.When significant updates, including the completion of the
http://understandingatom.com/ base for this project, have been made I will ping back this
wasrejected by the group for limiting the link element to links intendedfor traversal, so maybe that doesn't matter.But certainly the
possibility should be considered that this is stretching the use ofthe link element beyond what it was designed for.Antone-- M:D/M. David Peterson
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...
Thanks for your help and extemdedinformation!
Antone-- M:D/M. David Peterson
http://www.xsltblog.com/
Neat idea :)
Why does IE7 rip out xml-stylesheet directives.
I can only assume your server is serving up the atom file (correctly) as application/atom+xml? If yes, application/atom+xml is transfered directly to the feed rendering mechanism, bypassing the xml parsing mechanism that would read the
at most anything I write tends to send the spell checking engine into fits of fury... so I save my CPU cycles for take two and beyond :)
On 2/26/06, M. David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neat idea :)
Why does IE7 rip out xml-stylesheet directives.
I can only assume your server is serving
/ ...
From: M. David Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:53 PM
To: James YenneCc: atom-syntax@imc.orgSubject: Re: Link rel attribute stylesheet
correction:
serving the .xml extension as with an application/xml extension
should read: serving the .xml extension
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