Re: [Fwd: Re: todo: add language encoding information]

2006-01-30 Thread James Holderness
Henry Story wrote: Just re-reading your mail I think you make a good point that perhaps translation is the wrong word to use. We would like something more abstract such as otherLanguageVersion. This made me think that the word we want is alternate. And then looking at the spec again I found the

Re: [Fwd: Re: todo: add language encoding information]

2005-12-23 Thread Walter Underwood
--On December 23, 2005 11:31:22 PM +0100 Henry Story [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you can't have a link pointing from an entry to an id, without losing some very important information. We need something more specific. We need a link pointing from A to C as shown by the blue line. Some

Re: [Fwd: Re: todo: add language encoding information]

2005-12-23 Thread James Holderness
David Powell wrote: link rel=alternate type=application/atom+xml hreflang=fr x:id=french_entry_id / What do you think? I assume that there is an href missing from that? Actually no. At least not necessarily. That was to indicate the special case where the link was pointing to an entry

[Fwd: Re: todo: add language encoding information]

2005-12-22 Thread James M Snell
FYI... Original Message Subject: Re: todo: add language encoding information Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:03:25 +0100 From: Henry Story [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi James, you forgot to send this to the Atom syntax list,

Re: [Fwd: Re: todo: add language encoding information]

2005-12-22 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-22 19:30]: To indicate that the feeds were translations of one another, a new translation link rel could be established on the feed level feed xml:lang=de ... link rel=translation hreflang=fr

Re: [Fwd: Re: todo: add language encoding information]

2005-12-22 Thread James Holderness
A. Pagaltzis wrote: * James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-22 19:30]: To indicate that the feeds were translations of one another, a new translation link rel could be established on the feed level Is that even necessary? Wouldn’t @rel='self' already work here? I would have thought

Re: [Fwd: Re: todo: add language encoding information]

2005-12-22 Thread Henry Story
Yes. That is one solution. But what we are looking for is how one can state that two entries in the same feed are translations of one another. Henry On 22 Dec 2005, at 20:52, James M Snell wrote: Hmmm.. interesting thought, hadn't considered that. rel=self should always point to *this*

Re: [Fwd: Re: todo: add language encoding information]

2005-12-22 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* James Holderness [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-22 21:00]: I would have thought @rel='alternate' (an alternate version of the resource described by the containing element) slightly more appropriate than @rel='self' (a resource equivalent to the containing element). There's also the restriction

Re: [Fwd: Re: todo: add language encoding information]

2005-12-22 Thread James M Snell
In that case, the only viable solution is an extension element. This is similar to the Thread Extension use case in which replies may appear within the same feed as the original. Here's how I would do it: 1. Introduce a new translation element. translation id=id_of_resource / 2.

Re: [Fwd: Re: todo: add language encoding information]

2005-12-22 Thread James M Snell
Hmmm.. interesting thought, hadn't considered that. rel=self should always point to *this* document, and never to some other document, but if the document referenced is the same document just in a different language, then it is possible? Good thinking but I'm not sure if it's legal