Re: PaceExplainDuplicateIds

2005-05-01 Thread Eric Scheid
On 1/5/05 6:34 AM, Robert Sayre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say someone writes a quick PHP script that doesn't keep any state and loops through the entries to display them on a web page. They'll have different results than a well-written desktop aggregator. a well written aggregator may well

Re: PaceExplainDuplicateIds

2005-05-01 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Robert Sayre [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-04-30 22:15]: Remove the bullet point that reads {{{ atom:feed elements MUST NOT contain atom:entry elements with identical atom:id values. }}} Add a paragraph after the list that reads {{{ Atom Processors use the atom:id element found in Atom

Re: PaceExplainDuplicateIds

2005-05-01 Thread Eric Scheid
On 2/5/05 1:51 AM, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would +1 allowing identical IDs if it was required that the entries sharing an ID had different sources. perhaps we need to explain the concept of 'entries' (as resources), as distinct from entrys (as representations), and explain

Re: PaceExplainDuplicateIds

2005-05-01 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Eric Scheid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-01 18:45]: perhaps we need to explain the concept of 'entries' (as resources), as distinct from entrys (as representations), and explain that 'entries' must have unique IDs, and that the atom:id element of any atom:entry ties it back to the 'entry'

Re: PaceExplainDuplicateIds

2005-05-01 Thread Henry Story
On 1 May 2005, at 18:18, Eric Scheid wrote: On 2/5/05 1:51 AM, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would +1 allowing identical IDs if it was required that the entries sharing an ID had different sources. perhaps we need to explain the concept of 'entries' (as resources), as distinct from

Re: PaceExplainDuplicateIds

2005-05-01 Thread Sam Ruby
John Panzer wrote: Eric Scheid wrote: On 2/5/05 1:51 AM, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would +1 allowing identical IDs if it was required that the entries sharing an ID had different sources. perhaps we need to explain the concept of 'entries' (as resources), as distinct from entrys (as

Re: PaceExplainDuplicateIds

2005-04-30 Thread Antone Roundy
On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 02:02 PM, Robert Sayre wrote: The proposed compromise to allow duplicate IDs in feeds, on the condition that a source element is present, doesn't address the problem of quick scripts that probably won't group duplicate IDs. I don't understand the last part of this

Re: PaceExplainDuplicateIds

2005-04-30 Thread Sam Ruby
Robert Sayre wrote: On 4/30/05, Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 02:02 PM, Robert Sayre wrote: The proposed compromise to allow duplicate IDs in feeds, on the condition that a source element is present, doesn't address the problem of quick scripts that

RE: PaceExplainDuplicateIds

2005-04-30 Thread Bob Wyman
Robert Sayre wrote: compliant processors will still differ from one-off hacks. Why in the world are we letting one-off hacks influence the design of Atom? That strikes me as rather unwise. We aren't here to make life easy for script-kiddies. We're here to design a format that allows us

Re: PaceExplainDuplicateIds

2005-04-30 Thread Robert Sayre
On 4/30/05, Bob Wyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The spec should STRONGLY state that each entry must have a unique atom id. The point of the require source language is not to remove the requirement for uniqueness but rather to provide a more useful way of doing cross-feed determination