Re: Can/Does/Should the FeedValidator catch improperly escaped XHTML?

2006-09-02 Thread M. David Peterson
>> That's today. I would hope and assume that this changes in the future.+1On 9/2/06, Asbjørn Ulsberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:19:35 +0200, James Holderness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Just because a feed appears to contain well-formed xhtml content today,> that doesn't mea

Re: Can/Does/Should the FeedValidator catch improperly escaped XHTML?

2006-08-31 Thread M. David Peterson
Both points well taken.I would like to change my initial vote to -1, though +1 for both James and Aristotle's follow-up.On 8/31/06, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:* James Holderness < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-09-01 01:30]:> Encouraging people to use xhtml when they don't know enough to> ha

Re: Can/Does/Should the FeedValidator catch improperly escaped XHTML?

2006-08-31 Thread M. David Peterson
+1 - Definitely would be useful as a suggestion.On 8/31/06, Asbjørn Ulsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:50:56 +0200, Sam Ruby < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Also, there are a number of tools that attempt to produce well-formed> XHTML, but don't do so consistently enough to drop t

Re: Can/Does/Should the FeedValidator catch improperly escaped XHTML?

2006-08-31 Thread M. David Peterson
Thanks for the response/info Sam!On 8/31/06, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, there are a number of tools that attempt to produce well-formedXHTML, but don't do so consistently enough to drop the content into anAtom feed in such a manner.I assume this is from an XHTML standpoint (meaning t

Can/Does/Should the FeedValidator catch improperly escaped XHTML?

2006-08-30 Thread M. David Peterson
via http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2006/08/and_the_winner_of_the_best_ind_1.html#comment-75533 There's one other small problem though: they put XHTML as CDATA in "html" text constructs, while they're supposed to contain HTML 4. And since it's XHTML, they should embed it directly in "xhtml" cons

Re: Atom in the latest Indigo

2006-06-18 Thread M. David Peterson
more...  I may be assuming to much here...On 6/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Quoting "M. David Peterson" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> I assume you all are already aware, but just in case >> http://blogs.msdn.com/yassers/archive/2006/06/15/632436.aspx &

Atom in the latest Indigo

2006-06-17 Thread M. David Peterson
I assume you all are already aware, but just in case > http://blogs.msdn.com/yassers/archive/2006/06/15/632436.aspxIf not mistaken, I think this would allow me to pretty much kill the AtomicRSS project. Yay! Less projects on my plate is ALWAYS a good thing :D-- /M:DM. David Petersonhttp://mdavid.na

Re: Copyright, licensing, and feeds

2006-06-09 Thread M. David Peterson
d. [1] : http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2005/08/part_2_assets_atom_feeds_and_a.html [2] : http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2005/09/part_3_assets_atom_feeds_and_a.htmlOn 6/9/06, M. David Peterson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> 1. Feed composed with multiple sources with different lic

Re: Copyright, licensing, and feeds

2006-06-09 Thread M. David Peterson
there be a best practices document to invite toolsdevelopers to understand and implement licenses mechanism?  (As I understand it's not the purpose of this draft).--Karl Dubost - http://www.w3.org/People/karl/W3C Conformance Manager, QA Activity Lead   QA Weblog - http://www.w3.org/QA/  *** Be Strict To Be Cool ***-- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Copyright, licensing, and feeds

2006-06-09 Thread M. David Peterson
For the record, Karl, even though you felt it was poorly written, at a personal level I didn't walk away with the feeling that your point was anything other than a simple "no matter what we do, we're not going to keep the world from abusing copyrights, but there's plenty of things we can do, so let

Re: Copyright, licensing, and feeds

2006-06-08 Thread M. David Peterson
Very well stated, Aristotle!On 6/8/06, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Karl Dubost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-08 04:30]:> Which will not remove abuse :)Well, will anything short of not publishing your content?I think the point of such an effort is to make life easier for third parties w

Re: Copyright, licensing, and feeds

2006-06-07 Thread M. David Peterson
Okay, cool... This is the first I've seen this, but that obviously nothing of any great concern.I guess my next question is the same as what what you, Elliotte, and Karl have already made the primary focus of this thread, * Beyond providing a way of referencing what license(s) applies to any given

Re: Copyright, licensing, and feeds

2006-06-07 Thread M. David Peterson
Hey John,In this example, does rel="license" represent a tagged reference or the URI to the location of the license?On 6/7/06, John Panzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Elliotte Harold wrote: >> John Panzer wrote:>>> I'm attempting to promote the use of explicit licenses in feeds, and>> Creative Commo

Re: Paging, Feed History, etc.

2006-06-07 Thread M. David Peterson
ts the question of what is the target of the specification and Atom in general. We mainly center the discussion around aggregators but I hope you all agree that Atom aims at much more than simple news feed, right? - Sylvain -- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Discoverability of feeds with differing licences

2006-06-06 Thread M. David Peterson
Didn't finish out that last thought in the fourth paragraph. --- ... future given that the current 2.5 license suggests that a 1.x and 2.x family is already represented, + then this will simply propagate as soon as the RDF data is updated appropriately. --- On 6/6/06, M. David Pet

Re: Discoverability of feeds with differing licences

2006-06-06 Thread M. David Peterson
org/licenses/by/2.5/"/> is a lot easier to deal with than It's also, of course, much shorter, which becomes important when you consider the use of per-entry licenses in synthetic feeds. The same arguments apply to microformats, I think, which is why rel-license exists... which

Re: Paging, Feed History, etc.

2006-06-06 Thread M. David Peterson
, etc., while giving people the option to use something more reliable when necessary. Thoughts? -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ -- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Discoverability of feeds with differing licences

2006-06-06 Thread M. David Peterson
an alternative to the user, or used instead of blindly truncating text. My major question is whether a "headline only" feed is an "alternate" representation, or perhaps an "index" to the full feed, or perhaps a new relation (or two) is needed. Thoughts? -- John Panzer System Architect http://abstractioneer.org -- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Sorry this is on-list; Robert does not seem to appreciate off-list mail

2006-05-31 Thread M. David Peterson
I was following this thread, and was doing my best to keep my mouth shut, but I can't do that any longer.  I will avoid making statements that are intended to offend.What I will say is this:  Messages specifically labeled 'off-list' should be respected as such.  There are a million different reason

Re: ASPdotAtom

2006-05-24 Thread M. David Peterson
loy3) Simple policy enforcement using RNG, Schematron, XML Schema, etc... On 5/24/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've chosen a "shut-up and code" approach to the overall Atom-related projects I have going, something I'm sure many of you, if not noticed, are

ASPdotAtom

2006-05-24 Thread M. David Peterson
I've chosen a "shut-up and code" approach to the overall Atom-related projects I have going, something I'm sure many of you, if not noticed, are none-the-less thankful for the "break" :)However, I thought I would point out part of the comments from this mornings checkin, couple things of major sign

Re: "Atom Over XMPP" I-D

2006-05-19 Thread M. David Peterson
for your interest.>> Peter>> - --> Peter Saint-Andre> Jabber Software Foundation> http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.shtml >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-> Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin)> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org>> iD8DBQFEbJ00NF1RSzyt3NURAh/GAJ9Y3bOdSRu8sjL7fQJRyPK2gT8lawCghrPZ > oR6vRLed4adw0a6ssgJvO2M=> =Bb/z> -END PGP SIGNATURE->-- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Feed Thread in Last Call

2006-05-18 Thread M. David Peterson
The requestor sends a request for all entries and comments on those entiries since a certain date.  If the date request is considered reasonable, a compact atom syntax that contains, a) a determination as to whether they support providing diffs a:ds="0" false, a:ds="1", trueb) the relavent pieces

Re: Feed update mechanism

2006-05-16 Thread M. David Peterson
Worth noting:via http://www.oreillynet.com/windows/blog/2006/04/keep_the_good_things_rolling_m.html which links to http://blogs.msdn.com/rssteam/archive/2006/04/08/571509.aspx you'll find:Delta Encoding In addition to standard conditional GETs the RSS Platform download engine supports Delta Encodi

Re: What Atom software are you working on?

2006-05-08 Thread M. David Peterson
y this one way or the other?   On the concept of persistence, the feed platform in Windows persists downloaded entries from feeds for as long as the user wants them. Nothing more complicated than that.     From: M. David Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 12:5

Re: What Atom software are you working on?

2006-05-07 Thread M. David Peterson
> Also recently started on a AJAX-based APP client to go with it.   Very cool!  This is something I can help with if needs be...  I'm still trying to get my legs in Python, and with some missing holes in IronPython to allow Demokritos to run natively have held the AtomicRSS.NET project off for now

Re: What Atom software are you working on?

2006-05-05 Thread M. David Peterson
hair, but better results to showcase.On 5/5/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've got several.   GlobalClip (trac:http://dev.extensibleforge.net/wiki/GlobalClip svn: svn://src.extensibleforge.net/trunk/GlobalClip)   An implementation of MS's LiveClipboard that (for t

Re: What Atom software are you working on?

2006-05-05 Thread M. David Peterson
I've got several.   GlobalClip (trac:http://dev.extensibleforge.net/wiki/GlobalClip svn: svn://src.extensibleforge.net/trunk/GlobalClip)   An implementation of MS's LiveClipboard that (for the moment) uses S3 as a way of storing and accessing content that someone wants to either allow public access

Re: Feed thread -09

2006-05-05 Thread M. David Peterson
So kind of like a best practice doc? On 5/5/06, David Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Friday, May 5, 2006, 12:20:25 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote:> * M. David Peterson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-04 23:30]:>> Or is something like this simply inviting WAY TOO MANY little>> t

Re: Feed thread -09

2006-05-05 Thread M. David Peterson
  On 5/4/06, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-04 23:30]: > Or is something like this simply inviting WAY TOO MANY little> things to find justification to plug up the collective inbox of> the community members?I don't

Re: Feed thread -09

2006-05-04 Thread M. David Peterson
Just a note:  When you consider that what people gain is, in essence, a simplified way to gain access to information that is otherwise accessible, just at a higher over-the-wire , and processor intensive cost, then it makes a lot of sense to create an extensible namespace/specification devoted stri

Re: NOTE TO OPERA STAFF : Problem with misrepresentation of Atom version number in Widget community

2006-05-03 Thread M. David Peterson
ite extra-credit points for (as far as I know anyway) for being the first off-the-line...  If nothing else, theres reward in such knowledge in and of itself, but I hope you win either way :) On 5/3/06, Mihai Sucan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le Tue, 02 May 2006 23:41:10 +0300, M. David Peters

Re: NOTE TO OPERA STAFF : Problem with misrepresentation of Atom version number in Widget community

2006-05-02 Thread M. David Peterson
is didn't take place.   Thanks again for the response and for taking the steps to get it fixed! :)   On 5/2/06, Mihai Sucan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le Tue, 02 May 2006 20:51:41 +0300, M. David Peterson<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > a écrit:>> I can only assume that someone from Opera is o

NOTE TO OPERA STAFF : Problem with misrepresentation of Atom version number in Widget community

2006-05-02 Thread M. David Peterson
y assume that, like the Fx community, the Opera community would prefer that bug reports don't come through the ratings channel. Thanks in advance! -- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Feed Thread Draft Updated

2006-04-22 Thread M. David Peterson
;? > > > >> href="comments" > > xml:base="/06/04/21/blah/" /> > >> updated="...">5 > > > > You just know there'll be a few idiots that will try that on. > > > > e. > > > > > > -- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Known FeedDemon issue?

2006-04-20 Thread M. David Peterson
fixed > http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2006/04/update_hello_saxon_on_net_an_a.html#comment-25989 On 4/20/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I misread I'd as I'll -- > > My bad... I'll make the report :) > > On 4/20/06, James M Snell <

Re: xml:base in your Atom feed

2006-04-20 Thread M. David Peterson
should be considered a best practice. The next day I reread and realized my mistake, but decided then to just let it be. But in realizing that people might read the archives and walk away completely baffled by my response I decided it would be best to get this error properly documented. On 3/31/

Re: Known FeedDemon issue?

2006-04-20 Thread M. David Peterson
I misread I'd as I'll -- My bad... I'll make the report :) On 4/20/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No idea if they're already aware. I'd go ahead and report it. > > M. David Peterson wrote: > > http://www.oreillynet.com/xml

Re: Known FeedDemon issue?

2006-04-20 Thread M. David Peterson
>> http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2006/04/update_hello_saxon_on_net_an_a.html#comment-25975 Thanks James! On 4/20/06, James Holderness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > M. David Peterson wrote: > >>> Are you aware that those of us who read your blog in an aggreg

Re: Known FeedDemon issue?

2006-04-20 Thread M. David Peterson
Cool! Thanks James :) On 4/20/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No idea if they're already aware. I'd go ahead and report it. > > M. David Peterson wrote: > > http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2006/04/update_hello_saxon_on_net_an_a.html#comment

Known FeedDemon issue?

2006-04-20 Thread M. David Peterson
r a closer look. Steven Black | April 14, 2006 09:10 AM << before I post a bug to FeedDemon for something they are already aware of, does anybody know if they are? -- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Atom feeds and S3

2006-04-14 Thread M. David Peterson
ket's item listing. 3. Added command runtime display. Download Get #Sh3ll-2 .0.zip now ! > http://s3.amazonaws.com/sharpSh3ll/sharpSh3ll-2.0.zip ---On 4/13/06, M. David Peterson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :D  Okay, now I feel like an idiot :D Right on... well I'll make sure that

Re: Atom feeds and S3

2006-04-13 Thread M. David Peterson
Dominic's recent reply:Yes I will ensure they are valid using feedvalidator. Thanks. -DominicOn 4/13/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :D  Okay, now I feel like an idiot :D Right on... well I'll make sure that the output validates for both Atom and RSS and p

Re: Atom feeds and S3

2006-04-13 Thread M. David Peterson
:D  Okay, now I feel like an idiot :D Right on... well I'll make sure that the output validates for both Atom and RSS and ping back when it does.Thanks for the follow-up! On 4/13/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It should be http://s3.amazonaws.com/dds/37MB" />M. D

Re: Atom feeds and S3

2006-04-12 Thread M. David Peterson
com/dds/37MB http://s3.amazonaws.com/dds/6MB- JamesM. David Peterson wrote:> FYI... > http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/thread.jspa?messageID=37055邿> < http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/thread.jspa?messageID=37055邿>>> --> >> M. David Peterson> http://www.xsltblog.com/ -- M. David Petersonhttp://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Atom feeds and S3

2006-04-12 Thread M. David Peterson
mazonwebservices.com/connect/thread.jspa?messageID=37055邿>>> --> >> M. David Peterson> http://www.xsltblog.com/ -- M. David Petersonhttp://www.xsltblog.com/

Atom feeds and S3

2006-04-12 Thread M. David Peterson
FYI... http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/thread.jspa?messageID=37055邿-- M. David Petersonhttp://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Feed Thread Draft Updated

2006-04-12 Thread M. David Peterson
Hey Folks,Great discussion going on here...  Thanks! > http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2006/04/the_power_of_the_people.html On 4/12/06, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * David Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-13 00:15]:> This seems to be the wrong priority to me.Convincing arguments,

Re: xml:base in your Atom feed

2006-04-01 Thread M. David Peterson
> Hosting is not the point.Yep.  'tis why I said the word "backup".On 3/31/06, A. Pagaltzis < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-01 03:15]:> Obviously the main wiki would be better, but if this can act as> a backup plan

Re: xml:base in your Atom feed

2006-03-31 Thread M. David Peterson
If it turns out this is not possible, you;re more than welcome to use the UnderstandingAtom SVN repo, and either directly through SVN or by appending ?rev=xx&format=raw - or - ?rev=xx&format=text (where xx is the revision number you want access to) to the end of the URI, which mirrors the repositor

Re: xml:base in your Atom feed

2006-03-31 Thread M. David Peterson
iginal problems that Atom set out to solve was the desire > by people to use relative URIs. Even in their content. In fact, > PARTICULARLY in their content. > > My recent post of Common Feed Errors demonstrate that this demand > certainly exists - even in RSS: > > http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2006/03/13/Common-Feed-Errors > > It would be helpful if people were to update: > > http://intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/XmlBaseConformanceTests > > - Sam Ruby > > -- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-31 Thread M. David Peterson
Good enough for me :) (although, I had already been convinced of this by the rest of you as well)On 3/31/06, Tim Bray < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:20 PM, James M Snell wrote: > I would agree that, as a best practice, the xml:base should appear on> the content element, but implem

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-31 Thread M. David Peterson
this post... any and all comments, and even furthermore, testing anyone can throw at it will be GREATLY appreciated :) On 3/31/06, Antone Roundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:01 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote:> * M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-31 07:55]:>>

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-31 Thread M. David Peterson
ack ExtremeXSLT session sometime in the next few hours? :D Regards,--Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/> -- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-31 Thread M. David Peterson
hand*s*.On 3/31/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, I agree that if this can be done in a consistent manner, then using the xml:base attribute on each //entry/content element would be absolutely WONDERFUL.  The trick is to figure out how to ensure a consistent le

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-31 Thread M. David Peterson
Oh, I agree that if this can be done in a consistent manner, then using the xml:base attribute on each //entry/content element would be absolutely WONDERFUL.  The trick is to figure out how to ensure a consistent level of avaialability and accuracy of the value of each instance of content/@xml:bas

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-30 Thread M. David Peterson
 context has any value whatsoever. Pick a planet, any planet, and my point suddenly and immediattelly becomes relavent.On 3/30/06, Antone Roundy < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mar 30, 2006, at 10:00 PM, M. David Peterson wrote:> Then it should be a best practice that if they invoke this, the&

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-30 Thread M. David Peterson
> RFC4287, section 2:> >> > Any element defined by this specification MAY have an xml:base> > attribute [ W3C.REC-xmlbase-20010627].  When xml:base is used in an> > Atom Document, it serves the function described in section> 5.1.1 of> > [RFC3986], establishing the base URI (or IRI) for resolving any > > relative references found within the effective scope of the> xml:base> > attribute.> >> > Seems pretty clear to me.  Yes, the base URI of that HTML is now > > whatever xml:base said it was -Tim> >> >> >>>>>> --> >> M. David Peterson> http://www.xsltblog.com/ <http://www.xsltblog.com/>-- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-30 Thread M. David Peterson
d the first page. :) On 3/30/06, Antone Roundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mar 30, 2006, at 8:34 PM, M. David Peterson wrote:> ...the content element can be basically anything as long as its either>> - non-escaped plain text with a @type value set to text,> - escaped text,w

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-30 Thread M. David Peterson
Then it should be a best practice that if they invoke this, the xml:base value should be set upon the "element containing the text", in this case, the content element.  Obviously you can't simply assume that the current xml:base in context has any direct relation, and therefore value to the current

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-30 Thread M. David Peterson
Oopps > Canadian *M*ount*ie*Sorry Tim! :)On 3/30/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > @href attribute *or other attribute or elements who's value CAN or MUST be a URI/IRI* On 3/30/06, M. David Peterson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I have to wonder why xml:base

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-30 Thread M. David Peterson
> @href attribute *or other attribute or elements who's value CAN or MUST be a URI/IRI* On 3/30/06, M. David Peterson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I have to wonder why xml:base would apply to anything other than the hardline schema specific @href attribute values of the structured doc

Re: Does xml:base apply to type="html" content?

2006-03-30 Thread M. David Peterson
I have to wonder why xml:base would apply to anything other than the hardline schema specific @href attribute values of the structured document in which the schema directly applys to. Extending this, a good portion of an Atom document is fairly rigid in regards to what is and is not allowed until y

Demokritos now running via http://understandingatom.com

2006-03-29 Thread M. David Peterson
http://understandingatom.com/ (made more evident via http://understandingatom.com/introspection (thanks Sylvain! :)) In regards to how this relates to the progress of AtomicRSS, its what I am labeling "temporary compromise" while I wait for IronPython's direct implementation of the socket module (m

Re: globally accessible atom.rnc file...

2006-03-27 Thread M. David Peterson
oh, to get your creative juices flowing add ?torrent to the end of either of these URI's. On 3/27/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Folks,   For a matter of convenience for my own apps I've posted Uche's updated atom.rnc file to http://s3.channelxml.com/

globally accessible atom.rnc file...

2006-03-27 Thread M. David Peterson
Hey Folks,   For a matter of convenience for my own apps I've posted Uche's updated atom.rnc file to http://s3.channelxml.com/scheme/atom.rnc   If not obvious, s3.channelxml.com is a cname record that points at s3.amazonaws.com. so the same file is available via http://s3.amazonaws.com/scheme/atom

Consideration for the adoption/integration of an Atom/MS:RSS Web Feed API project

2006-03-22 Thread M. David Peterson
Hey Folks,   Just finished up an IM conversation with DonXML and he pointed me to this list SourceForge list as the proper entry point to begin discussions regarding the potential integration of a project that has already been started that is focused on bringing layered support for the Atom web fee

Re: Latest IE7 release 'AtomicRSS' output comparison results

2006-03-22 Thread M. David Peterson
of everything into one feed) : http://trac.understandingatom.com/timeline?milestone=on&ticket=on&changeset=on&wiki=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rssEnjoy your day :)-- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Latest IE7 release 'AtomicRSS' output comparison results

2006-03-22 Thread M. David Peterson
racking the process from start to finish as we go?   I'll get started on this now.   Thanks again!     On 3/22/06, David Powell < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wednesday, March 22, 2006, 5:13:05 AM, M. David Peterson wrote:> Hey Folks,>  > With yesterdays build release of IE

Re: Latest IE7 release 'AtomicRSS' output comparison results

2006-03-22 Thread M. David Peterson
n this now.   Thanks again!     On 3/22/06, David Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wednesday, March 22, 2006, 5:13:05 AM, M. David Peterson wrote:> Hey Folks,>  > With yesterdays build release of IE7, it seemed appropriate to run > aquick inventory check to see where things stand i

Latest IE7 release 'AtomicRSS' output comparison results

2006-03-21 Thread M. David Peterson
Hey Folks,   With yesterdays build release of IE7, it seemed appropriate to run a quick inventory check to see where things stand in regards to the derived MS/RSS conversion of a fairly element/attribute usage heavy Atom feed.  Here's the overall breakdown.   Process: I took a quick snapshot of th

Re: Atom syndication schema

2006-03-15 Thread M. David Peterson
that atom:uri is an IRI-reference, so it is affected by any > xml:base attributes on that element. > > And that atomCommonAttributes also covers extension attributes, which > are also allowed anywhere. They are "undefined", which *I* think means > that implementations need not feel bad about dropping them on the > floor. The official meaning is, er, undefined. > > > -- > Dave > > -- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Atom syndication schema

2006-03-15 Thread M. David Peterson
real thought into this area, and obviously I need to put a lot more. Thanks again for clearing things up and providing the links! On 3/15/06, Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 10:36:36PM -0700, > M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: Atom syndication schema

2006-03-14 Thread M. David Peterson
Bartók is the family name. > > While common western names (eg. Eric Scheid) would be indexed as Scheid, > Eric; a comma is instead simply added between the Hungarian surname and > forename, making Hungarian names indistinguishable from other Western-style > names. For example: Bartók Béla is indexed as Bartók, Béla. > > Icelandic names are another game altogether. > > e. > > > -- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Atom syndication schema

2006-03-14 Thread M. David Peterson
>"atom:name" and "atom:uri" and "atom:email" elements used within > >Person constructs. > > For atom:uri and atom:email at least, not having xml:lang may > be seen as a feature. While these often contain pieces from one > language or another, they are not really in a language. > > Regards, Martin. > > -- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

"AtomicRSS" Project Repository, Project Management, Wiki now live

2006-03-11 Thread M. David Peterson
don't then we won't be left scrambling.  If they do, then I just became a better Python programmer, and we all got better and understanding how to build software at the community level.  Not a bad tradeoff/risk either way. :) Thoughts, criticisms, suggestions?-- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
Of course I wish I hadn't made such a damn fool of myself in taking such a strong and -- I guess extended would be an appropriate word :) -- response this morning when I chose to write the Master Thesis I never quite got around to during my college years regarding the reasons "they" were wrong and

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
James, Heres the thing that Aristotle nailed on the head, that should have been painfully obvious to me as this is something I learned when I was just a wee little thing running around building 5 of MS campus, a part of MS termed the "Old M.S. Campus" (not to be confused with the "Old Old MS" buil

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
t hear anything from me, k? ;) :D   On 3/9/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Why can't I publish my own stylesheet and use these Microsoftelements for collation, background, etc.  This Microsoft stylesheet should be replaceable. *   I would say this is a quite valid ques

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
* Why can't I publish my own stylesheet and use these Microsoftelements for collation, background, etc.  This Microsoft stylesheet shouldbe replaceable. *   I would say this is a quite valid question.   Is this capability planned and has simply not been implmented at this stage?  I realize the look

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
Hey Aristotle,   Thanks for the reply!  On 3/9/06, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, one of them (NetNewsWire) is a desktop application. Like alldesktop aggregators, it throws away any styling information associated with the feed via XML means. Many of them will evenfilter away (some of)

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
couple notes: (yes, this is a generalization, and some people are building web sites that are built in a more complicated way, but in the vast majority of cases, it's true). In fact, yes, this is true, but its easy to circumvent by using a bootstrap file.  A simple application/xml MIME-type used a

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
>> For example, because the feed view is part of the client, instructions explaining what a feed is, and why subscribing is a useful and interesting thing to do are presented in the user's system language, regardless of the language of the feed. If the user chooses, they can turn off the IE feed vi

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
ask... http://trac.understandingatom.com/wiki/BrowserBasedAtom%26RSSOn 3/9/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lets try that again, to everyone this time:   I think we are both on the same page.  I'm glad to see that.   I was suddenly beginning to feel like I had missed some

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
MUCH better now!  On 3/9/06, David Nesting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/9/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: If, in fact, what you mean by this *IS* that its the end users choice, then I would tend to agree... as long as the option exists.  That was, actually

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
ont necessarily contradict each other.   It seems maybe that the IE7 and RSS teams need to decide what the message is overall, and then speak to that point once they have...  On 3/9/06, David Nesting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/9/06, David Nesting <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: On 3/9

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
der list. On 3/9/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ""this is a feed intended for rendering in an aggregator" and"Publishers' don't have control over the look of their feed in" otherreaders."WHAT???  Are you kidding me...  If by other reader

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
Aristotle,   Both of these are services, not browsers.  As a service, its understandable...  Limited server resources would justify this, as would the need to cache the data feed, and the related transformation or css files.  However, when the client accesses the feed directly from the browser, the

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-09 Thread M. David Peterson
y to promote have at their disposal.  I know at least a couple hundred folks myself that I know would be happy to publish such information as long as this information stayed within the confines of the end user and developer licensing agreements.  Which it would.   On 3/9/06, M. David Peterson <[E

Re: IE7 Feed Rendering Issue

2006-03-08 Thread M. David Peterson
>> When you provide information in an XML format, you're providing information, not a web page.  You may desire to have it rendered a certain way when it's rendered by a web browser, but the consumers of your data can do whatever the heck they want with it. << I'm sorry, but you're wrong.  What you

http://trac.understandingatom.com/ now live

2006-03-01 Thread M. David Peterson
Still quite a bit of general site inrastructure to finish off, but the trac instance is now live and ready for contributions as anyone might see fit.When significant updates, including the completion of the http://understandingatom.com/ base for this project, have been made I will ping back this t

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-27 Thread M. David Peterson
that there exists at least some potential somewhere in all of this... finding that potential, of course, is the key...   Thanks for your help and extemded information!  Antone-- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-27 Thread M. David Peterson
ets do it and take a whole bunch of risk because of it"   On 2/27/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When you say "what it was designed for" can you be specific as to what that definition is?  Sorry, new to the conversation, but I have particular interest in this top

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-27 Thread M. David Peterson
ered that this is stretching the use ofthe link element beyond what it was designed for.Antone-- M. David Peterson http://www.xsltblog.com/

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread M. David Peterson
ssing channel element: description [ help] </div>2true           ^ line 19, column 74: Missing channel element: link [help ] </div>2true   From: M. David Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 200

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread M. David Peterson
at most anything I write tends to send the spell checking engine into fits of fury... so I save my CPU cycles for take two and beyond :)   On 2/26/06, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Neat idea :)   > Why does IE7 rip out xml-stylesheet directives. I can only assume your

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread M. David Peterson
Neat idea :)   > Why does IE7 rip out xml-stylesheet directives. I can only assume your server is serving up the atom file (correctly) as application/atom+xml?  If yes, application/atom+xml is transfered directly to the feed rendering mechanism, bypassing the xml parsing mechanism that would read t