Re: Atom Bidi Draft Update - Informal Last Call
Yeah, I know, but I personally have a preference towards having more implementations available... especially since we're talking about a draft that updates the core Atom spec with a new attribute. - James Martin Duerst wrote: > At 02:25 07/03/23, James M Snell wrote: >> It is not year clear if there has been enough independent implementation >> of the specification to justify publishing it as a proposed standard. > > There is no need for implementations when going to Proposed Standard > (of course, they never hurt). There is a well-defined need when going > from Proposed Standard to Draft Standard, but that's way in the future. > > Regards, Martin. > > > #-#-# Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University > #-#-# http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Atom Bidi Draft Update - Informal Last Call
I'd be fine with this also. There's no immediate rush for this but it would be excellent if implementors could start taking a look at it. - James Franklin Tse wrote: > I don't think we are in a hurry to move the draft to an RFC, so, can the > draft be held in the "Draft" stage and issue a call for implementations? The > future of the draft should be based on the implementation reports received. > > Franklin > > - Original Message - > From: "Martin Duerst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "James M Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Franklin Tse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "atom-syntax" ; "atom-protocol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 15:29 > Subject: Re: Atom Bidi Draft Update - Informal Last Call > >> At 02:25 07/03/23, James M Snell wrote: >>> It is not year clear if there has been enough independent implementation >>> of the specification to justify publishing it as a proposed standard. >> There is no need for implementations when going to Proposed Standard >> (of course, they never hurt). There is a well-defined need when going >> from Proposed Standard to Draft Standard, but that's way in the future. >> >> Regards, Martin. >> >> >> #-#-# Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University >> #-#-# http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >
Re: Atom Bidi Draft Update - Informal Last Call
I don't think we are in a hurry to move the draft to an RFC, so, can the draft be held in the "Draft" stage and issue a call for implementations? The future of the draft should be based on the implementation reports received. Franklin - Original Message - From: "Martin Duerst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "James M Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Franklin Tse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "atom-syntax" ; "atom-protocol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 15:29 Subject: Re: Atom Bidi Draft Update - Informal Last Call > At 02:25 07/03/23, James M Snell wrote: >> >>It is not year clear if there has been enough independent implementation >>of the specification to justify publishing it as a proposed standard. > > There is no need for implementations when going to Proposed Standard > (of course, they never hurt). There is a well-defined need when going > from Proposed Standard to Draft Standard, but that's way in the future. > > Regards, Martin. > > > #-#-# Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University > #-#-# http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Atom Bidi Draft Update - Informal Last Call
At 02:25 07/03/23, James M Snell wrote: > >It is not year clear if there has been enough independent implementation >of the specification to justify publishing it as a proposed standard. There is no need for implementations when going to Proposed Standard (of course, they never hurt). There is a well-defined need when going from Proposed Standard to Draft Standard, but that's way in the future. Regards, Martin. #-#-# Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University #-#-# http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Atom Bidi Draft Update - Informal Last Call
James, Why are you going to recommend that for publication as an experimental or informational draft, but not a Proposed Standard? Franklin Tse - Original Message - From: "James M Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "atom-syntax" ; "atom-protocol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 00:59 Subject: Atom Bidi Draft Update - Informal Last Call > > I have posted an updated version of the Atom Bidi Draft. The only > significant difference is a notice about direction guess algorithms. > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-snell-atompub-bidi-03.txt > > I have implemented support for this specification in Abdera and in IBM's > updated internal blogging environment. > > The specification adds a new attribute "dir" to the set of common > attribute attributes within the Atom namespace. The dir attribute > specifies the default directionality of language-sensitive text within > an Atom document. > > example, > > http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"; dir="rtl"> > ... > > > At this point, I intend to request a formal last call on the document > and recommend it for publication as an experimental or informational draft. > > Feedback is requested. > > - James > >
Re: Atom Bidi Draft Update - Informal Last Call
It is not year clear if there has been enough independent implementation of the specification to justify publishing it as a proposed standard. - James Franklin Tse wrote: > James, > > Why are you going to recommend that for publication as an experimental or > informational draft, but not a Proposed Standard? > > Franklin Tse > > - Original Message - > From: "James M Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "atom-syntax" ; "atom-protocol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 00:59 > Subject: Atom Bidi Draft Update - Informal Last Call > >> I have posted an updated version of the Atom Bidi Draft. The only >> significant difference is a notice about direction guess algorithms. >> >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-snell-atompub-bidi-03.txt >> >> I have implemented support for this specification in Abdera and in IBM's >> updated internal blogging environment. >> >> The specification adds a new attribute "dir" to the set of common >> attribute attributes within the Atom namespace. The dir attribute >> specifies the default directionality of language-sensitive text within >> an Atom document. >> >> example, >> >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"; dir="rtl"> >> ... >> >> >> At this point, I intend to request a formal last call on the document >> and recommend it for publication as an experimental or informational draft. >> >> Feedback is requested. >> >> - James >> >> >
Atom Bidi Draft Update - Informal Last Call
I have posted an updated version of the Atom Bidi Draft. The only significant difference is a notice about direction guess algorithms. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-snell-atompub-bidi-03.txt I have implemented support for this specification in Abdera and in IBM's updated internal blogging environment. The specification adds a new attribute "dir" to the set of common attribute attributes within the Atom namespace. The dir attribute specifies the default directionality of language-sensitive text within an Atom document. example, http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"; dir="rtl"> ... At this point, I intend to request a formal last call on the document and recommend it for publication as an experimental or informational draft. Feedback is requested. - James
