Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Anne van Kesteren wrote: EDITORIAL: There are a couple of places where we use uri in the markup, specifically the atom:uri element (3.2.2) and the uri attribute of atom:generator (4.2.5). In both cases they're not actually URIs, they're IRIs, so the name is WRONG, except for nobody knows what

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-23 Thread Graham
May I suggest HREF? It's address format and class agnostic. Graham

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-23 Thread Tim Bray
On Mar 23, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Graham wrote: May I suggest HREF? It's address format and class agnostic. If I hadn't firmly promised myself that I would keep my damn mouth shut about this, I'd be +1. -Tim

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-23 Thread Martin Duerst
Hello Dan, The problem I have with using web is that there is a pars pro toto (or probably rather the other way) problem here. I.e. the Web is defined by *all* the resources identified by an URI/IRI, whereas the element we are trying to name points to just one of them. Given all the proposals, my

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Martin Duerst wrote: url: -0.2 (outdated) It may be outdated, but it is the one everyone is using and it is also used by CSS. -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-20 Thread Robert Sayre
Mark Nottingham wrote: +1 to the just pick something and ship it position Indeed. Could it possibly matter less? We have more important things to talk about. For web: Bray, Sayre, Duerst, Brickley For iri: de hÓra, Höhrmann For uri: Gregorio, van Kesteren Robert Sayre

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-19 Thread Mark Nottingham
+1 to the just pick something and ship it position On Mar 18, 2005, at 2:44 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: * Bjoern Hoehrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-03-18 11:13+0100] * Tim Bray wrote: There are a couple of places where we use uri in the markup, specifically the atom:uri element (3.2.2) and the uri

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread Dan Brickley
* Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-03-17 16:27-0800] EDITORIAL: There are a couple of places where we use uri in the markup, specifically the atom:uri element (3.2.2) and the uri attribute of atom:generator (4.2.5). In both cases they're not actually URIs, they're IRIs, so the name

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Tim Bray wrote: There are a couple of places where we use uri in the markup, specifically the atom:uri element (3.2.2) and the uri attribute of atom:generator (4.2.5). In both cases they're not actually URIs, they're IRIs, so the name is WRONG, except for nobody knows what an IRI is so

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread Dan Brickley
* Bjoern Hoehrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-03-18 11:13+0100] * Tim Bray wrote: There are a couple of places where we use uri in the markup, specifically the atom:uri element (3.2.2) and the uri attribute of atom:generator (4.2.5). In both cases they're not actually URIs, they're IRIs,

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Dan Brickley wrote: In both cases they're not actually URIs, they're IRIs, so the name is WRONG, except for nobody knows what an IRI is so renaming them iri would be confusing, and anyhow everyone thinks of URLs not *RIs, but naming them url would be wrong too, so why don't we actually

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread Antone Roundy
On Friday, March 18, 2005, at 04:24 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: URIs and IRIs are the way we identify things (on, in, to and for...) the Web. So web to me seems natural. I think the question is which of these is meant by the web: a) HTML over HTTP(S), plus images and other things that get rendered in

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread Bill de hÓra
Dan Brickley wrote: * Bjoern Hoehrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-03-18 12:09+0100] I do not really understand what you are trying to ask or say here. I suppose you object to call those elements and attributes anything but web for some reason or you object to the alternate names I suggested. In case

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread Dan Brickley
* Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-03-18 08:41-0700] On Friday, March 18, 2005, at 04:24 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: URIs and IRIs are the way we identify things (on, in, to and for...) the Web. So web to me seems natural. I think the question is which of these is meant by the web:

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Dan Brickley wrote: I think the question is which of these is meant by the web: I encourage Atom to follow the WebArch REC, let's call it (d), http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#intro [[ The World Wide Web (WWW, or simply Web) is an information space in which the items of interest, referred to as

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread David Powell
Friday, March 18, 2005, 7:08:32 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: uri -- wrong iri -- unknown to many users web -- misleading to many users I suggest confronting users with something unknown is better than misleading them. How about something with less meaning attached to it, such as

s/url/web/

2005-03-17 Thread Tim Bray
EDITORIAL: There are a couple of places where we use uri in the markup, specifically the atom:uri element (3.2.2) and the uri attribute of atom:generator (4.2.5). In both cases they're not actually URIs, they're IRIs, so the name is WRONG, except for nobody knows what an IRI is so renaming

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-17 Thread Robert Sayre
Tim Bray wrote: EDITORIAL: There are a couple of places where we use uri in the markup, specifically the atom:uri element (3.2.2) and the uri attribute of atom:generator (4.2.5). In both cases they're not actually URIs, they're IRIs, so the name is WRONG, Keeping the name atom:uri is exactly

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-17 Thread Bill de hÓra
Tim Bray wrote: EDITORIAL: There are a couple of places where we use uri in the markup, specifically the atom:uri element (3.2.2) and the uri attribute of atom:generator (4.2.5). In both cases they're not actually URIs, they're IRIs, so the name is WRONG, except for nobody knows what an IRI is

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-17 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Tim Bray wrote: EDITORIAL: There are a couple of places where we use uri in the markup, specifically the atom:uri element (3.2.2) and the uri attribute of atom:generator (4.2.5). In both cases they're not actually URIs, they're IRIs, so the name is WRONG, except for nobody knows what an IRI is