Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread Mark Baker
Urgh, sorry for my tardiness; I'm falling behind on my reading. On 11/30/06, Thomas Broyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd prefer basing autodiscovery on the media types and not at all on the relationships. All a media type tells you (non-authoritatively too) is the spec you need to interpret

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread Kyle Marvin
I'm still listening to the debate, but Mark's argument resonates with me. It seems like 'content-type' is more about the expected syntax of the resource at the other end of the wire, not it's semantic meaning. I don't see Atom feeds and entries as syntactically different enough to warrant unique

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread James M Snell
Kyle Marvin wrote: [snip] I expect that if you associated a 'rel' value with links that point to application/atom+xml, whether it is expected to be a feed or an entry would probably be part of the 'rel' description and thus not ambiguous at all. I think the discussion started because of

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread Kyle Marvin
On 12/1/06, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kyle Marvin wrote: [snip] I expect that if you associated a 'rel' value with links that point to application/atom+xml, whether it is expected to be a feed or an entry would probably be part of the 'rel' description and thus not ambiguous

Re: PaceEntryMediatype - rel-type instead

2006-12-01 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
On Dec 1, 2006, at 10:42 AM, Kyle Marvin wrote: I see the separation but I'm still missing a clear justifiication for it. I don't see content-type as having anything to do with the audience. It's about what media format you'd get back if you dereference the href and rel is about how you

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread James M Snell
You're right that the differentiation in the content-type is of less importance but without it there's no way for me to unambiguously indicate that a resource has both an Atom Feed representation and an Atom Entry representation. The best I could do is say This things has two Atom

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
Hi James, On Dec 1, 2006, at 11:25 AM, James M Snell wrote: You're right that the differentiation in the content-type is of less importance but without it there's no way for me to unambiguously indicate that a resource has both an Atom Feed representation and an Atom Entry representation. The

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread Kyle Marvin
On 12/1/06, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right that the differentiation in the content-type is of less importance but without it there's no way for me to unambiguously indicate that a resource has both an Atom Feed representation and an Atom Entry representation. I can see

Re: In San Francisco/Bay Area

2006-12-01 Thread Henry Story
Ok I suggest trying December 6th. Onion or no Onion rings at Tied House. What is dinner time in the bay? 6pm? 7pm? Henry On 28 Nov 2006, at 21:31, John Panzer wrote: Any of those would be good for me. Be careful of the deep fried onion rings at Tied House, though. Henry Story wrote:

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread James M Snell
I could but after the discussions this week I'm not sure its worth it. Yes, everything can be done using different rel values; the content-type thing is more just an annoyance than anything else. I'll just make sure that I never link my Atom entry documents using alternate (even tho that's what

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread Antone Roundy
On 12/1/06, Mark Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/30/06, Thomas Broyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All a media type tells you (non-authoritatively too) is the spec you need to interpret the document at the other end of the link. That has very little to do with the reasons that you might want