Re: Madden Accessibility Update

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : JimmyDub via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden Accessibility Update hopefully its the update with the new accessible stuff. can't wait for it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332504#p332504 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Blindcraft release, is it possible?

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Swagtastic via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Blindcraft release, is it possible? I don't think it would be too unnatural looking from my own perspective. Cows will move around from time to time, finding different grass to chew on, different places to lay, etc. So as long as it's not just moving nonstop, i think it would be okay.

Re: Humans vs robots, public beta released!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Aarush via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Humans vs robots, public beta released! Yah, Somebody please put up a link for this, am unable to download the dang game! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332500#p332500 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Looking for redspot feedback

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rory via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for redspot feedback forgive me for sounding blunt, but sam, I really don't like how you've coded buildings so far. Maybe this was on purpose for bases and such, but I don't like how you have to walk to building's coords and hit shift enter. I think buildings should be part of

Re: I'm Not Sure What to use to code

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Developers room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm Not Sure What to use to code Agree with 11. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332498#p332498 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Would there be interest for a blind gamer's guide to EA Sports UFC 2?

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Orin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Would there be interest for a blind gamer's guide to EA Sports UFC 2? You can use the Xbox app to stream your Xbox screen to the computer. I do the same with Madden on the PS4 with the Remote Play app. The downside to the remote play app is there's no way to put it in full screen to

Re: Would there be interest for a blind gamer's guide to EA Sports UFC 2?

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : cj89 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Would there be interest for a blind gamer's guide to EA Sports UFC 2? Yeah I wouldn't be opposed to a guide either. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332492#p332492 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Samurai riot

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : simba via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Samurai riot Hi.I picked up the game and played it a bit. So far I am liking it, but I do have some questions.1: Is there a way to completely turn off the music? not just slightly decrease it? I found the option to turn it down, but not completely disable it.2: What are the controls

Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : jazzyjennifer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars hi there, i was wondering if anyone has a mush soundpack. when i go to the web sight, to view the sound packs. i see the link for the mush one, thats on the web sight, i cant download it, the drop box link for that one is not active any more. URL:

Re: What TV show/movie are you watching aka recommendation and reviews

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: What TV show/movie are you watching aka recommendation and reviews I haven't actually started watching DS9 yet, but I will be soon.As for Voyager, I agree, it really did have it's moments, but most of it was pretty crap.The concept was cool though, and the ship it's self, with it's

Re: Madden Accessibility Update

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : cyco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden Accessibility Update The update that I got was it the accessible update?Or was it the weekly update that happens each week? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332484#p332484 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Looking for redspot feedback

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Guitarman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for redspot feedback Hi.I've been playing redspot for a couple of days and I love it! But ever since last night I can't get into the game. Was I banned or is the server down? My name on there is Cody. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332483#p332483

Re: Any Good programs for playing bluerays?

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nuno69 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Any Good programs for playing bluerays? I found something like thathttps://videoconverter.wondershare.com/ … ovies.htmlHope that will work as I don't have the discs to test it on URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332482#p332482

Re: eurofly a flight audio simulator from slovakia

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Orin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: eurofly a flight audio simulator from slovakia simba wrote:Hi.At green gables, well, squawking 7500 or 7600 does actually nothing, that's well, to put the truth on the table, it's not really a simulator, more like an arcade style game. This doesnt mean the game is bad, just to advetise

Re: Connection error when visiting audiogames.net

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : magurp244 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Connection error when visiting audiogames.net Hm, nothing? I should probably be a bit more descriptive... The problem only occurs with audiogames.net, when trying to access the site it stalls out and redirects to a Cloudflare error page:Error 524 - A timeout occurredBrowser: Working >>

Re: Which Order Do I watch the stargate series and movies?

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Guitarman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Which Order Do I watch the stargate series and movies? Hi The Player.Is there a copy of the movie with audio description? If so I haven't found it. Could you post a link or tell me where I can find a copy? Itunes doesn't have it audio described either.Thanks. URL:

Re: Survive the Wild!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Survive the Wild! thanks. seems like I had the wrong idea about what I was supposed to be doing. I assumed you just climbed straight up the face moving side to side to avoid over-hangs or something. this is the trouble with STW, you can't just have another crack at something straight

Re: Madden Accessibility Update

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : cyco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden Accessibility Update I have Madden setup and even logged into my account.However after I press the A button to go to the main menu I keep getting this dialog that wants me to dismiss or go.I press go and it still comes up every time I start Madden.I believe it is for ultimate

Re: I'm Not Sure What to use to code

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Developers room : Guitarman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm Not Sure What to use to code Hi.@Post 9 what are you talking about? I assume your talkingabout pyaudiogame or agk? I think both are outdated or no longer supported. You have got to be more specific when you post something like that. URL:

Re: Junction gate

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Virtuosi Media via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Junction gate Hey Dark, thanks for trying the game out and for the feedback. I think I'll be able to implement those suggestions, so stay tuned.Regarding the game types, they represent how far advanced you start in the game. The breakdown is as follows:Survival = The normal game

Re: Questions

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Developers room : Guitarman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions Hi HurstSeth405.Well the best way to read code with nvda is to turn up symbol reading to most or all You can do this by pressing your NVDA modifier key with p several times, or go into the nvda menu and going to preferences than synthesizer. Either way works. This will help

Re: Clok Mud

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : devinprater via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Clok Mud The main reason I quit playing is because there didn't seem to be any objective for the MUD. Like, I know it's an open MUD, and I did get into the order of the fists or something like that, but besides that, well, I didn't know what to do after that. URL:

Re: Would there be interest for a blind gamer's guide to EA Sports UFC 2?

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Orin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Would there be interest for a blind gamer's guide to EA Sports UFC 2? Hey, I wouldn't be opposed to a guide. I might even pick it up.The guide may help Karen with future accessibility for this game. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332473#p332473

Re: Redspot, blood and paril. First public beta released!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : blindndangerous via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Redspot, blood and paril. First public beta released! Your welcome. Looks like he got the lag problems fixed, so join the fun. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332471#p332471 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Looking for redspot feedback

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : blindndangerous via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for redspot feedback Suggestion: Turn off speech interrupt for chats. I don't know why you have that set up.  It's extremely annoying especially when chat is very active to scroll back and forth then to do it again when a new message comes in because your first message was

Re: Warsim, text based randomly generated stratogy

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Niklas via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Warsim, text based randomly generated stratogy [[wow]], sounds amazing already. I am excited regarding the update, sounds incredibly massive. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332469#p332469 ___ Audiogames-reflector

Re: eurofly a flight audio simulator from slovakia

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : simba via Audiogames-reflector
Re: eurofly a flight audio simulator from slovakia Hi.At green gables, well, squawking 7500 or 7600 does actually nothing, that's well, to put the truth on the table, it's not really a simulator, more like an arcade style game. This doesnt mean the game is bad, just to advetise it as a

Re: Redspot, blood and paril. First public beta released!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : BigGun via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Redspot, blood and paril. First public beta released! didn't expect a new update to come so soon, and, btw thanks blinddangerous, I will give a thumbs up. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332464#p332464 ___

Re: Tactical Battle 2.0

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : danang137 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Tactical Battle 2.0 I've tryde menny menny menny times, but I still didn't receive any confrumation email URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332460#p332460 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: a funny video

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jeffb via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a funny video A radio morning show called Preston and Steve do a number of wake up calls where they send people into their room to scare the crap out of them. Here's 2 of them.Zombie Wake Up Callhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FQ52DqLwbQChainsaw wake up

Re: Survive the Wild!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : The Imaginatrix via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Survive the Wild! Hi,If you're still having this issue, and you're referring to the waterfall leading up into the Windy Wolf Forest, it's basically a matter of climbing a few steps, then running north or south to get to the opposite side and climbing a few more steps. If you're facing

Re: Monthly chat October 2017

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Monthly chat October 2017 Hi Phil. I'm not sure what was happening there, though since I had my own issues with my laptop's wireless  silly beggars I possibly just missed that detail. Well the big news  is that I now have an actual living room with carpet and chairs and living roomy

Fa06 questions

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : speeder via Audiogames-reflector
Fa06 questions Greetings all]I just purchased and received a Roland fa06 keyboard today, and am at a total loss as  to where to begin.Firstly, when trying to control the keyboard via qws, I get FA06 ctrl, FA06 daw ctrl, and FA06. no matter what port I use, the sound I get sounds doubled

Re: typo for the articles room description.

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: typo for the articles room description. That actually wasn't a typo, as stated [url="" on wikctionary[/url]  it's an alternative term  walkthrough. I've more commonly seen walkthrough with the u at the end on a lot of gaming websites, which is why I decided to use it in the spelling

Re: You're a Cyclepath!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : musical professor via Audiogames-reflector
Re: You're a Cyclepath! i'm afraid i'm having some of these same issues.  i finally tried this on the computer by downloading t windows version.  yet i find that i have to turn off any screen reader to play or get through anything.  rather this being nvda or, system access, it doesn't

Re: Which Order Do I watch the stargate series and movies?

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : the player via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Which Order Do I watch the stargate series and movies? Maybe that is true. I must admit, I never watched Universe til it's end. I watched the first season, but I never really got into that show. To me, it always looked like, the writers wanted to recreate the atmosphere of Battlestar

Re: Scrolling Battles, You're World, online platforming exploration game

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : kianoosh via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Scrolling Battles, You're World, online platforming exploration game at MikeFontYes that is the latest version.@roryYou have to learn how does the sonar work. I know it's a bit hard though when you found the trick, That map will be nothing. Because if things are not around you, Of

Re: Looking for redspot feedback

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : blindndangerous via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for redspot feedback Suggestion. An ignoring system. Would really be nice to mute players. Also the readme still has things that shouldn't be there, like the /where command, as well as a few other things. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332430#p332430

Re: Creating a sapi 5 voice, how to do it?

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Developers room : Rastislav Kiss via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Creating a sapi 5 voice, how to do it? Hi guys,thank you all for your help, I have still lots of to learn, because as I see I know nothing about com objects and such stuffs. Anyway thank you, I will try to learn it and after I will be able to construct something usable... hope.Hovever,

Re: Questions

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Developers room : Rastislav Kiss via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions Hi,well, it is not that complicated as it seems.1. someones will not agree with me, but I am still thinking, that notepad and command line is the best practice to code in all languages.2. Just try, don't ask if you will or will not know how to do it. Problems will solve

Re: Looking for redspot feedback

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BigGun via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for redspot feedback @67what do you get when you try to access Sam's website. I can access it here quite ok. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332424#p332424 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Redspot, blood and paril. First public beta released!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : mahmood via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Redspot, blood and paril. First public beta released! hi guys. i would like to try the new update. but when i download the game i am still geting the same version i don't know what's the problem, can anyone help? thanks URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332421#p332421

Re: What text rpgs are around?

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : pelantas via Audiogames-reflector
Re: What text rpgs are around? Hi,all of the offline possibilities are already mentioned. I want to add sryth to the list as well.http://www.sryth.comlots of good story driven quests on there. I power it up every so often in search of a cool quest to undertake to enjoy the style of

Re: What is This garbage about learn python the hard way?

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Developers room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: What is This garbage about learn python the hard way? @JimmyDub, I will admit that I have pirated things -- who hasn't? And there's definitely growing up that I need to do. But at least I'm going to buy the book . Ah... wait a minute -- I already have a book about learning Python.

Re: Crazy Party: mini-games and card battle! (beta51)

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Riad via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Party: mini-games and card battle! (beta51) Something worth mentioning is that you can only use this feature at the beginning of the party, when finishing a certain minigame and when waiting between rounds. Two issues I wanted to address are the following:1- I sometimes see

Re: Redspot, blood and paril. First public beta released!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : blindndangerous via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Redspot, blood and paril. First public beta released! I think most of us are getting huge lag spikes for item pings or just things in general. My pings also seem to be a bit higher as well. I'm putting up as first day release bugs and am sure that it'll get fixed quick. But major lag

typo for the articles room description.

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
typo for the articles room description. pretty simple, under the heading for the articles room it says walkthrus instead of walkthroughs. I'm surprised no one caught on this earlier. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332404#p332404

Re: The killer

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Aarush via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The killer Then, when is the  other server online? Time?(In IST please) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332403#p332403 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: New sonification software for increased accessibility

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New sonification software for increased accessibility One of the ideas I had for identifying position/orientation variables is to pay attention to user input. So, if there is a value that consistently changes either liniearly, or with constant acceleration, when a directional button is

Re: The killer

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : ashleygrobler04 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The killer Sorry, but if you like it or not, your acount is deleted, as the server does not exist at all.Your ports should be forwarded URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332401#p332401 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: What TV show/movie are you watching aka recommendation and reviews

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : the player via Audiogames-reflector
Re: What TV show/movie are you watching aka recommendation and reviews I actually never quite understood, why everyone hated Enterprise so much. I mean yes, the show was maybe not the best Star Trek series. That is, and will probably forever be, DS9. But I sort of liked Enterprise.

Re: Junction gate

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Junction gate Hi Bejamin. i'm just trying the game now, love the atmosphere and the writing, and I can't wait to get into the gameplay, especially with procedural generation. I do have one access suggestion, which  is either a textual or audio way to know when you've toggled something,

Re: The killer

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Aarush via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The killer What the hell? I did What I was told, reunzipped the release folder and  entered my account  info and It says "Error: This account does not exist!" I tried entering the server info that was given here in the thread but it says "server is offline". URL:

Re: You're a Cyclepath!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Rory via Audiogames-reflector
Re: You're a Cyclepath! Safari works fine, make sure quick nav is off to play. Turn it off with left and right arrows as you probably know already.Sometimes when i'm playing, the game will freeze. I'll be driving along and then i'll hear an object of some kind passing me but it will never

Re: What TV show/movie are you watching aka recommendation and reviews

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: What TV show/movie are you watching aka recommendation and reviews @Defender, With the simpsons it's season 11 imho where it stops, though I think it wasn't until about season 20 where I gave up on it entirely .Futurama is amazing, though I never got into ren and stimpy, a bit too loud

Re: TextSpaced sci-fi text-based MMO

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : darren via Audiogames-reflector
Re: TextSpaced sci-fi text-based MMO well through the main site on fb although I'm waiting until the ios messenger gets to be accessible because it kept freezing up for me which is annoying because I rather enjoyed the game. URL:

Re: FYI, broken link in DB for Scrolling Battles

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: FYI, broken link in DB for Scrolling Battles I'm not sure what the current status of scrolling battles is, I'll have to check the audiogames archive and see and perhaps update the db from there. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332379#p332379

Re: Restricted/new users: introduce yourself!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Introduce Yourself to Gain Access : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Restricted/new users: introduce yourself! Jeremy wrote:This is Jeremy Hartley, and I am most certainly not a spambot. Grin Hmmm, sounds like something a spambot would say! Lol. Glad you've made it to the forum, and hope you have a lot of fun round here, btw, yes, this is the same Dark

Re: telling someone, hey, ya got a pm in you're inbox

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: telling someone, hey, ya got a pm in you're inbox I've checked all the admin settings, if we had this capability it'd already be up but if it is an extention it's not one we've got installed at the moment. It is rather odd, the punbb setup over on project.aon.com do have the capability

Re: Redspot, blood and paril. First public beta released!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : omer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Redspot, blood and paril. First public beta released! some how, i cant access the sam's website, no idea why though URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332375#p332375 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: What TV show/movie are you watching aka recommendation and reviews

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : the player via Audiogames-reflector
Re: What TV show/movie are you watching aka recommendation and reviews @Juliantheaudiogamer:As someone who lives in germany, let me tell you, that Germany sucks, when it comes to described content. At least, when it's about content from the US or the UK. If you don't mind the english

Re: Scrolling Battles, You're World, online platforming exploration game

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MikeFont via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Scrolling Battles, You're World, online platforming exploration game Hmm, so much for confirmations. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332370#p332370 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Survive the Wild!

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MikeFont via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Survive the Wild! Thanks Aamir for that explination. I guess I was stuck in Alter mode when you have to type in the amount of credits to spend along with the item. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332369#p332369 ___

Re: Looking for redspot feedback

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ns-studios via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for redspot feedback Hi.I like the new update a lot.There are a couple of things that I'd like to see addressed, though:currently, when pressing right control and using Jaws, the speech does not get silenced. I'm not sure how you're handling this, but the safest bet with jaws

Re: nostalgia: all the things I miss very deeply and will continue to miss

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Draq via Audiogames-reflector
Re: nostalgia: all the things I miss very deeply and will continue to miss This thread reminds me of something I ponder now and then.Often times, we say we miss things like going to school, watching TV after coming home from school, etc. Sometimes we even say we miss a certain time

Re: What text rpgs are around?

2017-10-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: What text rpgs are around? You can use a virtual machine if you want, to run Emon, or so I've heard.XP can run pretty well on 1.5 or 2GB of RAM.So if your computer has at least 6, you should be fine.I haven't done it my self though so you'd have to ask how, but I don't think it's that