Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project here's the thing there is a topic filled with at least 3 sound designers who are willing to work with folks for free. And on top of that there are people you could have contacted for assistance. And don't give me the, "I'm too hated&quo

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I'd just like to point out, there is a topic with at least idk, 3? Free sound designers, 3. For, free. There are also people like Defender and so on who you couldAsk mohamed about getting help with legal sounds, he seems to know a thing or 2

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project The big concern is that you still believe a sound is just a sound. Step number 1 is getting that out of your head. You recorded doors. Great. Are they top-tier? They most certainly don't have to be, but you do realize that sound design is more

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project AGain trying to save face.Tunmi, as far as I'm concerned, this is what it would take to build trust on this one.1. You need to make a formal application on your site. For your benefit, you should ask people for sound design examples.2. You need

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project All right. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621801/#p621801 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I guess what people are saying is, you've made several projects before, and should have figured this out in your first project, not your fifth or sixth or whatever. That it took you this long, and that you resisted this hard for this long, isn't

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project This is what I have just learned. So I'll be sure this time around that I try to find sounds which I'm sure are legal URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621798/#p621798 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Dangiro said"Moral of the story guys; if you don't know where a sound comes from, don't use it in anything. It's better to be safe than sorry."This is exactly what I had to learn as well.  Yes, it sucks that sometimes people aren't c

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @Jayde Well by what happened I"ve learned that this is not the way to go. But doing it all on your own is certainly not ideal either. I'm asking for support so that this can be done as a team. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/6

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Tunmi, here's the deal.The time to have been sourcing good sounds (i.e., noncopyrighted assets) was -before you made the game public, not under duress from the community. The reason people are mad at you is because you are dragging your feet.Look

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Understood. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621793/#p621793 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Tunmi, you do realize that by letting anyone join the Dropbox folder you're essentially inviting people to come in and just put in whatever sounds they want, there by increasing the risk that someone could just steal more sounds and cause

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Of course they're not obliged to do so. I am not forcing anyone to do this. Anyone who wants to do this and is willing to do this can, and I don't see the need of telling them not to waste their time when they themselves have said they wanted

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Doing your part? Your part is the entirety of the project. You're just lucky people are willing to give their time, but they are absolutely not obliged to do so. This attitude is a concerning one. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621788

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @GCW I'm contributing too man. I recorded a few doors in my house two days ago and added them to the list. I am also doing the work as well. I'm not saying that I should just stand there and let everyone do it, I'm doing my part too. URL: https

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Yes, that's my belief.Dan_Gero wrote:Hey Omar...I think I know why. Tunmi is one of many people who believe (or believed) that a sound is just a sound and that it doesn't matter where it comes from. Likely, one of his friends gave him sounds

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Even if you choose to accept that, the way this is being handled and the way he has handled past projects is a good indicator of future behavior. If he wishes to change, that should start now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621786

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Hey Omar...I think I know why. Tunmi is one of many people who believe (or believed) that a sound is just a sound and that it doesn't matter where it comes from. Likely, one of his friends gave him sounds, and he just slapped them in thinking

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Hey,@tunmi, I'm afraid I have to challenge your logic here for a sec.What your saying is that because everyone else is lifting sounds, it's suddenly ok for you to follow in their footsteps?Allow me to explain just why this is warped logic. That'd

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I hope you know Tunmi, I mean no disrespect towards you whatsoever. I meant what I said regarding how you should give this project to someone who can take care of it better, but I have a desire to help people, and help people I shall. However

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @Tunmi You dare to come in here and say this isn't your mess to clean up? You literally have the nerve to say that? That right there should be the deterministic factor that anyone uses on whether or not they want to help. He doesn't want to do

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project While I've said before that I think Golden Crayon is a unique audio game concept, I definitely agree that it belongs in the hands of a responsible developer with a decent track record to assure its continued and healthy existence. Even though

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Hi,I get where most of the anger is coming from. A lot of you are just tired of me. I don't blame you, at all. But I know just as anyone else should know, that flooring someone just because of their mistakes is not going to help them solve them

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Then he has the nerve to make a topic in the dev room. It's one thing for dan_gero to offer the help, it's another for tunmi to openly ask for it. Jesus, his arrogance and tactlessness knows no bounds.I just... just don't think

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @Wilson re, post 30:Wilson wrote:If He can't even pay for his own server, How do you expect him to hire a sound designer?Precisely why I had thrown down the gauntlet in post 22. I don't expect him to. That was to drive the point home

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project My apology if it sound a bit too harsh. I'm just trying to tell the fact and what kind of guy some of you guys wanted to help. Like I said, I'm not good when its come to wording, So yeah. At Jay, Nope, Coding itself isn't easy. But when you like

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project My apology if it sound a bit too harsh. I'm just trying to tell the fact and what kind of guy some of you guys wanted to help. Like I said, I'm not good when its come to wording, So yeah. At Jay, Nope, Coding itself isn't easy. But when you like

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project My apology if it sound a bit too harsh. I'm just trying to tell the fact and what kind of guy some of you guys wanted to help. Like I said, I'm not good when its come to wording, So yeah. At Jay, Nope, Coding itself isn't easy. But when you like

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project My apology if it sound a bit too harsh. I'm just trying to tell the fact and what kind of guy some of you guys wanted to help. Like I said, I'm not good when its come to wording, So yeah. At Jay, Nope, Coding itself isn't easy. But when you like

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Sorry for the double post, but I have one additional thing to consider. Let's say that even if dan_gero can get no one else, and decides to take on this project all by himself. Let's say that he curates a bad ass batch of sounds. Is the game's

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Listen, post 30 is not harsh. I'm sorry to say, but if you can't pay for things in the real world, you don't get them. Unless of course you take on a mountain of credit card debt. I know this is a lot to ask of teen agers who think life's

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Ug i really wish he would just use his own sounds, not stolen ones, second of all how can he not pay the gi that's hosting the surver for him if he bout those sound libs.? i mostly agree with everypost hear, i fiel like if anyone helps it would

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Now that I realize he is almost 18 years old, that kind of changes a few things. I was basing most of this on the fact that I thought he was about 13 or 14 based off the sound of his voice, but I guess I should’ve asked. That being said, I still

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I wouldn't mind asking a good friend to host my stuff, but again the keyword is a good friend. One that I talk to often. And if I charged for a product that requires the server for the product to be of use, then I would even consider giving them

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I wouldn't mind asking a good friend to host my stuff, but again the keyword is a good friend. One that I talk to often. And if I charged for a product that requires he server for the product to be of use, the n Iwould even consider giving them

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Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @30: I agree. If someone else hosts the server for him, Tunmi should also pay the server costs. And about Paypal, he'd probabbly have found another payment method somehow.Anyway, just one more reason why this isn't a good idea. URL: https

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Yeah, you make coding sound like some easy task. I'd like to see you make an alternative. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621702/#p621702 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project i gotta agree with 31 hereyes, i condemn the action of stealing sounds, but post30 is a bit much in my opinion.besides, your playing that game for free. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621700/#p621700 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

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Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project i'd gotta agree with 31 herewhile i condemn the action of stolen sounds, that is over the top in my opinion.besides, your playing that game for free. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621700/#p621700 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

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Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @30, While i don't agree with 99.99% of tunmi's actions, But that post sounded like a bit of harsh, The guy doesn't have paypal, He tried doing one but was unable because of paypal now requiring actual credit cards so there's no way for him to do

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @Jack, In case you didn't know, The guy who host the server for tunmi is paying the server with his own pocket change. Tunmi doesn't pay the guy at all, As far as I'm aware of.If He can't even pay for his own server, How do you expect him to hire

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @Jack, In case you didn't know, The guy who host the server for tunmi is paying the server with his own pocket change. Tunmi doesn't pay the guy at all, As far as I'm aware of.If He can't even pay for his own server, How do you expect him to hire

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @Jack, In case you didn't know, The guy who host the server for tunmi is paying the server with his own pocket change. Tunmi doesn't pay the guy at all, As far as I'm aware of.If He can't even pay for his own server, How do you expect him to hire

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project he'll think to shut down sooner or later, Because well... Bgt? And we all know how tunmi with py is. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621671/#p621671 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project he'll need to shut it down if he's really serious about the game, He'll need to recode it in python sooner or later and we know how tunmi with python is... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621671/#p621671 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I won't trust tunmi with my efert, also his games usualy last no more than 7 months, so nope, not wasting time URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621667/#p621667 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project it is coded in bgt. That alone I think is enough to not waste my time. I don't support bgt in any way. If pragma were to ask for his sounds to be replaced tomorrow, and payed everyone involved 100 bucks, I still wouldn't do it now. And because he

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I agree with GCW and Defender here.I think Tunmi will only really learn if he faces the full consequences of his behavior.I also doubt this game would stay up for long anyway, so I don't know if this project would even be worth it.I also think

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @Defender:The information referred to is post 37 in this topic this is the original post that put Tunmi on the defensive a bit. This is where Omar goes to explain what Tunmi did to his code. He would then later go on to lift assets. That was how

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @mohamed: THat's just ass-backwards.If that argument wouldn't work for a clner then ti wouldn't hold up for a sound thiever either. Even if a sound library is a torrent with 59421 seeders, that still doesn't make it legal.Just for the record, all

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project So, here's what I think needs to happen in order for this sound design effort to be safer, and more organized. This is not direct instructions, more so what I would deem acceptable if I was considering sound design work for this project.1. Tunme

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project the thing is... The game is full of stolen sounds from stolen paid libraries, And last i talked to tunmi, He just want to replace stolen stuff from phantom, Not the other stolen shit because he thinks that if a stolen library is spreaded too much

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project So, here's what I think needs to happen in order for this sound design effort to be safer, and more organized. This is not direct instructions, more so what I would deem acceptable if I was considering sound design work for this project.1. Tunme

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project So, here's what I think needs to happen in order for this sound design effort to be safer, and more organized.1. Tunme needs to hire a sound designer. Yup, I said it. He hasn't offered us any favors. Phantom is right on this one, we should

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Here's a crucial reason why people aren't so sure about this, DanGero. If you'll likely recall, Omar gave his account on how flaky Tunme was with collaboration in Dangerous Drive. He mentioned how Tunme would yoink Omar's code and replace

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project No, I'm not willing to work on this.Not only does he have hundreds of vaguely named and not well organized sounds which need replacing, but based on his past coding, I don't even necessarily believe that the game will be particularly stable

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Frankly, I'm not willing to work on this.Not only does he have hundreds of vaguely named and not well organized sounds which need replacing, but based on his past coding, I don't even necessarily believe that the game will be particularly stable

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Frankly, I'm not willing to work on this.Not only does he have hundreds of vaguely named and not well organized sounds which need replacing, but based on his past coding, I don't even necessarily believe that the game will be particularly stable

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project GCW, you have a good point. I’m a bit too tired to comprehend it fully right now, but I like your idea. My kindness can only go so far when I’m doing most of the work and I feel like if I saw this thing through all the way to the end, I would

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Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project GCW, I like your compromise. I think Tunmi bears responsibility and needs to do more than just pass responsibility off to someone else for his screw-up. But at the same time, I don't necessarily think that means he should do 100% of the labour

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project So then his game dies. Who is at fault? Certainly not you, right? How's he gonna learn? If every time he does something reckless or foolish, and someone's there to bail him out, how will he learn?you say you want to help him? By not engaging

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project The thing is, I don’t think he’ll do it. If I told him tonight that I wasn’t going to do this anymore and he would have to do it himself, I think he most likely would not. That’s why I’m trying to help, so it won’t even become an issue. URL

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I'm not saying ban the game, I'm saying that he got himself into this, and he should be the one to get himself out. You've shown signs of extreme naivety in the past, and even now. Not that that's a bad thing though. I think we all go through our

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Why? Because he needs to learn that this isn’t OK. Sure, he’ll learn that this isn’t OK if the community cuts him off and he grows up to be hated by everyone, but that’s a depressing life to live. Adults don’t deserve to suffer because

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Why? Because he needs to learn that this isn’t OK. Sure, he’ll learn that this isn’t OK if the community cuts him off and he grows up to be hated by everyone, but that’s a depressing life to live. Adults don’t deserve to suffer because

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Hell no, I ain't helping, because this sounds like a mismanaged project already circling the drain. Besides which, my give a damn where Tunmi is concerned has been broken for quite some time. This thing with Phantom Crafting has just shattered

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @11Oh, for sure.I'd definitely be willing to help if you wanted. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621517/#p621517 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

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Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Yeah, that’s kind of what I was thinking too but I wasn't sure. I think I'll work on replacing those as well. Nevertheless, it would definitely help to have a team. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621516/#p621516 -- Audiogames

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Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I'm pretty sure the doors that he didn't say anything about were ones that he had that he wasn't sure if they were stolen or not. Like, sounds that he had, but nobody said anything about, so he's not really sure. URL: https

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Update: Tunmi actually compiled a full list of sounds that need to be replaced already, but here's the thing. I'm seeing that there's files from this folder that are missing from both the sounds that belong to him and the sounds that need

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Have people email y'all the sounds and then you, tunmi and the gc admin team can go through and see what you like or not URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621506/#p621506 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I suppose you're right, but even then, how do you propose we right down all the file names of the sounds that are in the folder? Also, couldn't people just steal the sounds that others put in specifically for the game? I guess the most secure way

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Ugh, it completely messed up the post. What I was trying to say is the point shouldn't to get identical versions of the previous sounds. It should be to get sounds that function well as, or even better than the previous ones. I just feel if you

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I personally need to hear the sounds so I get a good idea of what to replace them with. The idea here is to make sure that people don't have to drastically change their maps. We don't know, for example, what door sound is a sliding door sound

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project @4,. idk, the point shouldn't be getting exact replacements. The point should be to get substitutes that may function as well as, or even better than the sounds before. I just feel if youelevators, crowds, etc may yield much better results

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project I personally need to hear the sounds so I get a good idea of what to replace them with. The idea here is to make sure that people don't have to drastically change their maps. We don't know, for example, what door sound is a sliding door sound

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Why would you convert the sounds to a lower quality, and how exactly would that stop thievery? It sounds like you don't know anything about sound design, so this is a pointless venture. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621499/#p621499

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Re: Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project UM, even though you're making the sounds lower quality I don't think its a good idea. Instead of putting the sounds out there, which will be poor quality anyways, why not make a general list of possible sounds? Then people can go by that broad

Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project

Golden Crayon Asset Replacement Project Hello...As you guys may have seen in the Golden Crayon topic, a lot of things came up regarding stolen sounds. I don't want to see Golden Crayon get removed from audiogames.net, because I feel like there's not a lot of games like