Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. Heya,I'm going to be blunt here. Even if EA would have done a complete accessibility overhaul, everything reads and is 100 percent accessible, Madden 21 is still a game I wouldn't purchase.firstly because it is bugged beyond anything else, it's basically

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. With Madden not getting any updates this year, I expect absolutely nothing for either NHL or Fifa. I'm just going to move ahead to next year. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564329/#p564329 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. We still have Fifa 21 and nhl 21 coming up this year, so it's not quite over yet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564328/#p564328 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. Sure, but the facade design pattern is software engineering 101. Expose two functions: speak(text, interrupt = true) so you can speak messages, and stop() to interrupt speech on keypresses if needed. Write those two functions, plus initialization code

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. 29:I think it's because they would then have to roll separate code for each console. they took the path of least resistance for TTS which is unfortunate as this cloud-based system is just not a good idea on so many levels. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. Not that I'm excusing lack of accessibility progress, but another thing to consider here is that Madden isn't like other games. It's easy to say "Build accessibility in from the start," but I don't imagine they're rewriting Madden from scratch

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Re: Madden 21 trial available. @JLove: Actually, I would not assume that accessibility workers being moved to other parts of the game development cycle is an afterthought. Are you forgetting that  a lot of companies are cutting their budget almost entirely in terms of new-hire recruitment

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. @26 after tlou2, people won't really be abel to get away with half-assing a11y anymore. The bar has been permanently raised, and a new standard has been introduced. From now on, people who say they care about a11y but then half-ass it like EA did will get

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. @25Just further proof in my opinion that Naughty Dog actually takes accessibility seriously.  They built it in from day one.  That takes a lot of effort.  It says to me that they were truly serious about it, and will probably remain serious about it moving

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. @25Just further proof in my opinion that Naughty Dog actually takes accessibility seriously.  They built it in from day one.  That takes a lot of effort.  It says to me that they were truly serious about it, and will probably remain serious about it moving

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. @25Just further proof in my opinion that Naughty Dog actually takes accessibility seriously.  They built it in from day one.  That says to me that they were truly serious about it, and will probably remain serious about it moving forward.  I feel like

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. 24:Keep in mind that all the accessibility work was done before Covid.naughty Dog made a very intelligent decision by including accessibility as an integral part of their engine instead of doing what every company (EA, Microsoft, ETC) as done which is add

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. I gotta admit, I'm disappointed.  I won't be buying 21.  I see no point.  If they make improvements in 22, then we'll see.@16, I somewhat agree, but even with everything going on with Covid, and working at home, etc., Naughty Dog still managed to put out

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. I gotta admit, I'm disappointed.  I won't be buying 21.  I see no point.  If they make improvements in 22, then we'll see.@16, I somewhat agree, but even with everything going on with Covid, and working at home, etc., Naughty Dog still managed to put out

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. I gotta admit, I'm disappointed.  I won't be buying 21.  I see no point.  If they make improvements in 22, then we'll see.@16, I somewhat agree, but even with everything going on with Covid, and working at home, etc., Naughty Dog still managed to put out

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. I gotta admit, I'm disappointed.  I won't be buying 21.  I see no point.  If they make improvements in 22, then we'll see.@16, I somewhat agree, but even with everything going on with Covid, and working at home, etc., Naughty Dog still managed to put out

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. I gotta admit, I'm disappointed.  I won't be buying 21.  I see no point.  If they make improvements in 22, then we'll see.@16, I somewhat agree, but even with everything going on with Covid, and working at home, etc., Naughty Dog still managed to put out

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. Hello, I apologize up front for a long post for it will show a lot of things I did not know that I am sure a lot of you already know.  I found a web site that shows the formations for both offense and defense that each team has available to them. When I

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. Would you mind explaining what you mean by you found a possible playbook? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563781/#p563781 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. I got the deluxe version and will play it. I have tried the trial version. I have found a possible play book. I have not had    a chance to see how it if it is accurate or not URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563764/#p563764 -- Audiogames

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. I'm not forgetting TLOU2, but also keep in mind that that was in the works for three years, and the game wa spretty much completed before the world went in to lock down.What I'm referring to is games that you would expect to have accessibility built

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. Lol @16, 2020 is a bad year for a11y? I hope you didn't forget tlou2. I think that kind of makes up for a lot. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563628/#p563628 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. You know how they say there's no I in team. I wouldn't be surprised if accessibility is one person. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563622/#p563622 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. There are also teams of programmers. Teams for ultamet team, teams for the art/animation, etc. We don't know how large the team is for accessibility. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563615/#p563615 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. 15: I buy it completely. there's been such a shift in how work gets done. Studios by nature are extremely social places, and thi has all shifted to everyone working remotely. You can't tell me this doesn't effect output levels.We're also forgetting what comes

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. I just don't buy the covid thing though. When you do a11y for something, you've probably planned on doing it for a long time. It would just be another step in the design process, so since they were able to finish the game, they would have been able to add

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. @12 Same here. I genuinely don't get why they don't do it on-device. I've written a TTS library that supports all major desktop platforms and the web, and even has support for a couple different platform APIs where they're available. No reason an AAA game

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. Yeah I'll also be saving my money this year I think. There's nothing that really is pushing me to buy it. I understand if covid pushed back development. I wish we had heard that earlier as opposed to waiting hopefully for something that wasn't really going

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. I think they're currently using pico. and it hurts my soul. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563265/#p563265 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. @9 Doubtful that a company would sink as much as they have into accessibility, then suddenly change course because of what a few entitled dumbasses on an obscure internet forum say. I mean, if they're really that easily swayed, I'm sure they could justify any

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. 9:I doubt it. I'm still pretty sure the pandemic has a looot to do with it. Which sucks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563221/#p563221 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. Wow. This is just sad. I was actually planning on picking this up if there was more a11y this year, since I now have a controller capable of giving me the rumble cues I would miss out on otherwise. I wonder if they stopped doing blind a11y because

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. nope. the live weekly stuff is only good for that week. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563216/#p563216 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. Aww, what a big fat bummer. I think I'll save my money this year as well. The only reason I'm tempted to buy is that I'm really curious how COVID-19 will be incorporated. Will they show smaller/no audiences? What happens if the real season gets cancelled

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. Will confirm. Face of the franchise. not accessible.Playbooks. Do not speak.Some informational pop ups are still not speaking.have no idea how The Yard works, so can't really comment on that.Overall I am very disappointed only because usually from a year

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. I am going to do several videos on this.  In particular the new face of the franchise mode,   and others. THose won't start until the 25th. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563194/#p563194 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. Ech. had to dig through the xbox store, but finally got it.I'm really torn if I want to even bother doing a video on this or not. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563193/#p563193 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. I haven't been able to download it for some odd reason. I'll mess with it at some point. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563192/#p563192 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Madden 21 trial available.

Re: Madden 21 trial available. damn, this is extremely sad news manI thought for sure they would put in more menus to read, or even a better voice.I wish naughty dog could have made madden lol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563186/#p563186 -- Audiogames-reflector