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ah, that is good at some points. We do not do this here. Sometimes at class.
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Its quite usual for a school to close after hours, but that is not really what I meant Afrim. What I used to do during my last secondary school was get together with people in free periods and do things like test each other
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@DarkSorry, I didnt really know that you could do it. we can only send messages to each other in our phones asking for homeworks, but there is any place where we can go and study together.The door of school is closed after
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At the Oregon School it was closed at three.
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It certainly seems that way. Thats why Im profoundly thankful that my folks, while hey insisted I have at least a little exposure tolife in a blind school (mostly during summer camps which at OSB could actually be quite
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Indeed. The school is so oppressive! And here I am again, on the buss to school. Going back is always the hardest. But when I get back, the programming kicks in.
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Funny you should say programming, as if its a cult. I think Ill leave that to more knowledgable people to interpret.
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[[wow]] Devin. Sounds like the ex girlfriend I mentioned earlier in this topic would be right at home where you are. After all the more regimented and restricted life is the better as far as shes concerned. About all I can
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If you go into profilesettings, you can set the number of posts and topics displayed per page. I prefer mine at the maximum, which is 75, sinse the more shown on a page the less I have to muck about changing pages when
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Yeah I knew about that, but I decided to not adjust that setting for no reason imparticular. Thanks for the tip, though.
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Oh my bad. The post about ironing was post 51, not 76. I was off by exactly one page worth of posts. He also mentiones he attends the school in Alabama, so I shouldnt have even directed that question at people from the UK.
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@Theo, Im not sure what you mean about post 76 sinse this topic has only 69 posts . with Ironing as I said, I personally tumble dry and then hang stuff in creases. Ironing might be a bigger deal in the Uk sinse a lot of
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About the confidence thing: Ive been employing that technique for a while.I think the first time was back in the summer when I was 15 years old, when I still had enough vision to see the curbe on the roadside. I wanted to
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Im sorry for arriving to this thread so late. Heres my responces to the questions asked in the original post.1. i would say I primarily benefitted from the athletics offered. If it wasnt for that, I would probably still
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And in terms of studying, youre describing how every school works, ever.
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In this place where I live, 100% of public schools do not have any assistant teacher, and we, after the lessons end, go home and prepare for the other day by ourselves, not altogether. I honestly dont know how this works in
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@Afrim, actually Camlorn is correct, if you have a group of friends you help each other out with learning stuff, I used to do this at my final good secondary school (especially revising for exams, and when not playing
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Well, that sounds like it could have made for a pretty good standoff. If you didnt eat the food, you could have totally stayed there all afternoon, and not done any work. Or would they have just brought the class work into
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My special school was exactly the same with food, their favourite phrase was you dont have to like it you just have to eat it it wasnt that the food wasnt bad, it was just that there was absolutely no choice, so if there
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No, if we didn’t eat the food, they would force make us stay there untill the time to study started. For example, if we entered there at 1:30, and we didn’t like the food, they would make us stay there till 2:30, and we
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Regarding food, at my school the food was not good. Fortunately those who had money were allowed to buy anything out of the school, but anyway, it was not enough as to make you not to feel hungry again. We were allowed to
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Its not forced, not quite. It goes a little bit like this.1. Given my skills, will this activity lead to death or gross physical injury? No.2. Given my skills, will this activity leave me in any absolutely unrecoverable
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I think I understand what you mean now, Camlorn. When you first explained it, I thought it sounded like one of those fruity self-help things, like, for example, the school of thought that dictates that if you want to
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Modified Löbs theorem! If I believe that (if I believe that p, then q), then q. If I believe that (if I believe that I am confident, then I will be more successful), then I will be more successful!(Disclaimer: has not
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@Devin, a lot of that makes sense, though as I said at my special school the educational standard was if anything higher than a mainstream school just because life was so dam dull and regimented you had little else to do,
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Yeah, thats the problem. This particular little mental trick seems to be unique to me, and every time I try to explain it everyone is like what? Im not surprised its unclear, not at all.
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yes, actually.First, the fact that this has harmed you but left you able to recognize it and say so publicly while still in the situation is actually kinda rare. In my experience, including myself, you dont realize the
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That was a beautifully written post. I agree with pretty much all of what you said.I dont think I would ever pretend to be confident, though. It seems dishonest in a way.Id much rather deal with what is immediately obvious,
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I can relate to your discouragement.Schools for the blind definitely do stunt your emotional and intellectual growth, particularly if youve been there long enough.Just remember that you do have the upper hand, though. You
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Well, I suppose Ill put my view here too. I go to the Alabama school for the blind and i think it da best thang eva. Not! My reasons? First of all, in math class, we only learn about 3 chapters per year. Really. In
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The Uk is somewhere between the two and dependent upon the system. In a lot of current mainstream schools I have heard of cases that Camlorn describes, where blind kids are basicaly educated by their classroom assistant and
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Gosh, cant understand how they felt so sure that they didnt take their children to their homes for months. There was a time here, when I was at the last grade of that school, and we , the most intelligent students reported
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As to Camlorns post: Yeah... this might have had a bit to do with why I applied for the Math and Science school in 10th grade.cuts 5kb tangent about said school and how awesome it was in spite of some scary
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Thats really terrible, but I can sadly believe what youre saying.I doubt that teachers or aides would be physically neglectful here in the US, but thats because you can sue someone for just about anything these days, so
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Yeah, the U.S. has the opposite problem. Aids are required in many cases where theyre unnecessary, blind students are often prohibited from extracurricular activities (even the very obviously safe ones), etc. Why? The
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At my school where I went to, there were many students who went rarely at their homes, for example, once in two months, or more. Although my home was around two hours away from school, I used to go every weekend there, and
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@TurtlePowerRegarding to your conclusion, well, we lose because the blind kids who start to attend a specialist school are unaware of where are they going, and their mind can be easily changed. Also, the associations which
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Hello,I think there is something that rnc run, at least thats what Ive heard about. Whether Ill attend though, is another story, because the way things are going in this thread, I now feel like I will not be able to believe
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Hi.Here are my thoughts:Over the last 2 summers, I have been to 2 NFB training centers as a summer youth.Last summer I went to the Colorado Center for the Blind. There were certain things I didnt like about this center,
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Hi.Here are my thoughts:Over the last 2 summers, I have been to 2 NFB training centers as a summer youth.Last summer I went to the Colorado Center for the Blind. There were certain things I didnt like about this center,
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Hi.Here are my thoughts:Over the last 2 summers, I have been to 2 NFB training centers as a summer youth.Last summer I went to the Colorado Center for the Blind. There were certain things I didnt like about this center,
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@Afrim, that sounds shocking,but worryingly believable. Unfortunately most parents of blind kids do not have much exposure to, or experience of blindness and so can easily get into the mentality that a special school is
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Unfortunately this is true and this happens with all the parents who have a blind kid. Some parents find it easy when they are told that his kid will have to attend a specialist school, because they do not have to worry
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Unfortunately this is true and this happens with all the parents who have a blind kid. Some parents find it easy when they are told that his kid will have to attend a specialist school, because they do not have to worry
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No Turtlepower, as far as I know there arent any centers that run months long courses living together the way the nfb do, the longest course might be a week and would usually be run from another building such as an outdoor
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@turtlepower, I didnt say training centers didnt exist in the Uk, only that the way they are organized and structured is rather different. They arent so much do this course as we set it out and pay for it the way the Nfb
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Hello.I went to Lindon lodge and honestly found it to be quite bad.OH it was ok when i was in the nerceary part of it, but when I got to the high school part it sucked.I wanted to go to mainstream but was not aware you
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Hi,I agree. From what Im seeing here I am now very disappointed in the hole idea.
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Interesting points, Dark.But am I understanding you correctly that the training centers that do exist are not as extensive as they are here? In other words, am I right in thinking that people dont spend months in an
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So, based on all of your responses, weve pretty much come to the conclusion that, across the board, schools for the blind are pretty crappy. They may have short-term benefits, or, in extreme cases, actually be better in
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I would talk in front of everyone. I didnt go to a school for the blind, but I had similar experiences that were in line with this kind of thing until high school. What does it matter what they think now? They cant make my
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Thats a fair assessment of the problem.But I will say that, from my own personal experience, I know that we werent really allowed (in quotes) to talk about our experiences while they were going on.Someone a few posts back
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O, no. They can make your life miserable while youre there. But once you leave, they hold no power over you. In fact, if enough people realized that, wed hold power over them.But, heres the thing. This kind of stuff is also
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Yes, but public school has one huge advantage: there are more of them, and they are not as far apart as their specialist counterparts. They are also more visible. Shopping around and stirring up the kettle are slightly more
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It really sounds that we have almost or totally the same experiences. I was also in a position where I was being called a gangsta and a stubborn ignorant guy. In my last year of specialist school, “the 9th one”, we had a
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Well, I had almost the same, if not worse or better , experience to you guys. Even though I studied in special schools for about 8 years and only on mainstream schools for 2 years (Im still 14), I think mainstream schools
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@Gamedude, While I am not surprised what you say about the slow pace of education in a specialist school, that is quite surprising. In Britain, specialist schools usually have a fairly high standar of eucation, for example
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@darkYes you can do equations but it’s again difficult, isn’t it?You should learn commands which are a three key combination. For example, a command in math may need Alt+shift+3+5+9 and it’s hard to do these commands
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Afrim, most software has an insert symbol option in the menu so you dont have to type in the numeric code for the symbols. Jaws also has a menu of its own on insert + 4 with some of the more common symbols.Im noticing a
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As Cx2 said, finding the symbols for equations isnt that ifficult on a computer if you use a decent program and the correct commands, indeed most of what youd need for gcse physics is on the number row anyway, (I was even
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So if you disobeyed the rules, because you might have not like that part of lesson or extra lesson in music you would end up being sent to prison one day? ahahahaahhaahhahahahahahahaha, funny. it didnt happened in our
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So if you disobeyed some rules, because you might have not like that part of lesson or extra lesson in music you would end up being sent to prison one day? ahahahaahhaahhahahahahahahaha, funny. it didnt happened in our
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@dannyMy parents really only considered that my complaints about the school could have been serious after I had gotten suspended for a huge argument I had with the schools supervisors. i could tell that my parents feelings
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hi.[[wow]] guys. your experiences with specialist schools sound terrifying. I on the other hand have had a nice experience during specialist school, I was there for 12 years and after that I went straight to university.
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[[wow]] Nin, sounds like your school avoided a lot of the pitfalls of most specialist schools, however equally it sounds like yours was better because! it wasnt specialist in the same way most are, eg, you could go out and
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Hello all,So I just checked some stuff about rnc, and, these guys have definitely improved. They now offer trips to theaters and cinemas, and believe it or not, brace yourself because I think this next points going to make
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[[wow]], there are a lot of interesting anecdotes here.I can definitely relate to having to follow ridiculous and strict rules. At the school for the blind that I went to, we werent allowed to go out on our own, either.
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@Turtlepower, that sounds worryingly believable, although the school I attended only had blind kids, at one and the same time we were told that the staff were attempting to make us be normal, and yet that we had to obey the
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I was fortunate enough to attend a public school from pre-k through 12th grade. I dont know if three hours was too far away, or if my parents were just blessedly ignorent of the resources out there.My braille teacher
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Hi,Im wondering how something like new college woulser or rnc or whatever its called these days, will fair. I think they have programs for people who are sixteen and up and such, so targeted at those who have already been
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I know I didnt go to a specialist school but its perhaps worth noting that my mainstream secondary schools headmaster asked my mother to remove me shortly after my sight loss was diagnosed. Luckily for me she flat out
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Hello,First of all, thank you for this great post. I was really looking forward to a discussion like this.In fact, if we start to discuss about a topic like this, there is plenty to say, and there would be needed to write
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@Aaron, the boy I mentioned with the theory about the lake, and the girl I mentioned who didnt like pouring liquid without the indicator were both from worcester where they went after they attended the same special school I
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Well, you attended the school in nineties but in those years the term computer didnt exist in Albania. I mean the modern computers, which run windows OS and we used only windows XP. Although I never got used to it cause I
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I, myself, have quite a long, difficult education process history, but I can say that most of my experiences in nonspecialist, public schools have been miles better than any experiences I have had in any specialist schools.
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I, myself, have quite a long, difficult education process history, but I can say that most of my experiences in nonspecialist, public schools have been miles better than any experiences I have had in any specialist schools.
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@Afrim, well the school thing souns remarkably similar. Even though in the 90s there were! laptops running windows 95 and 98 with Supernova, jfw etc, everyone used braille, and we didndt have any braille note takers either,
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@gamedude Yours sounds almost like my time in speshelist schools, accept my parents didnt even realize what was going on until late in the last year I was their. Before then whenever I would approach them about sirten
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@Turtlepower, Ive commented on this issue before, but I dont mind discussing it again. in the Uk, there are a few specialist schools but not as many as there used to be, and its certainly not manditory to go. I myself went
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The social aspect is rarely emphasized, IME.(See: http://www.perkins.org/news-events/eNew … story_jump for an example of someone noticing this, not that I was impressed by the sound of it)I cant really judge the local
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Im also against specialist schools for those very reasons. But my very first girlfriend, whom Ive mentioned before in other topics, is yearning even fifteen years after the fact to return to the Oregon School for the Blind
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Hi, as someone who whent through 6 years in a public school, and then most of my middleschool years in a speshelist school, I can say I prefer public school vastly to speshelist schools.My main problem was the restrictions,
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At Dark, thats true. We have had similar discussions about this on the forum. However, I think theyre kind of buried within other topics, and I wanted a centralized location where people could exclusively discuss
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danny wrote:Hi, as someone who whent through 6 years in a public school, and then most of my middleschool years in a speshelist school, I can say I prefer public school vastly to speshelist schools.My main problem was the
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