Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus Sighs.@16So he gives out different versions to others... Good for him, Precisely why is this an issue? What crime is being commited that is in direct harm to you, and in which way are you being offended. Please explain@ethinIf your gonna go around calling people

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus Sighs.@16So he gives out different versions to others... Good for him, Precisely why is this an issue? What crime is being commited that is in direct harm to you, and in which way are you being offended. Please explain@ethinIf your gonna go around calling people

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @lukas, no, I am not "throwing around excuses". Its you, really. If I give you two versions of an application, and one is a debug build and the other a release one, and the debug version is obviously larger, yet they both have the exact sam

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @42, yeah, I haven't played around with Quorum very much (I found Sodbeans quite clunky). I should probably take a look at again and see what's improved. I'm amazed it can understand logical sentences... now that's a huge leap. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus I think the closest we have to a modern BGT is probably Quorum. It's heavily scripted (I can't imagine the time it took to make the engine understand logical sentences) but the developer says it's based on pure java and advanced users aren't necessarily limited

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @lukas, no, I am not "throwing around excuses". Its you, really. If I give you two versions of an application, and one is a debug build and the other a release one, and the debug version is obviously larger, yet they both have the exact sam

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus Well, BSC games were flagged, and they were using VB/directx. Virus scans are getting to the point where they will pretty much flag anything that's unsigned, and in the windows world where software is commonly in the wild rather than regulated app stores (windows

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @38 It's more about the language being out of date and no longer receiving updates, and as a result, a lot of people get virus warnings even though the games did not include viruses. It's also about the low barrier of entry in BGT, which makes it harder if someone

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus From an outsider's perspective, it seems like everyone is saying BGT is terrible even though it's simple to use and still produce good games when used as it's meant to be used, by an actually experienced coder.These people  always strongly urge others to just

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus From an outsider's perspective, it seems like everyone is saying BGT is terrible even though it's simple to use and still produce good games when used as it's meant to be used, by an actually experienced coder.These people  always strongly urge others to just

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus From an outsider's perspective, it seems like everyone is saying BGT is terrible even though it's simple to use and still produce good games when used as it's meant to be used, by an actually experienced coder.These people  always strongly urge others to just

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus hican you please give me address of this script? where to check etc URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409888/#p409888 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus let me explain a bit:the bytecode + packed data + a structure will be appended into the PE file without any sections. so, they are not part of any section, even they are not part of PE code.this is the reason where anti virus softwares flag them.also, checkout

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus let me explain a bit:the bytecode + packed data + a structure will be appended into the PE file without any sections. so, they are not part of any section, even they are not part of PE code.this is the reason where anti virus softwares flag them.also, checkout

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @ethin, you are clearly just making excuses now. You're not even giving me any arguments anymore. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409863/#p409863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus hithanks jackwell yes, python is very more than one game URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409844/#p409844 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus Well, python is not like BGT if you are thinking so. It's an extensive language and you can't learn it, if you can't understand English well, you can translate python documentation which comes with the python program and then you can learn. It's good enough

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus mahdi-abedi wrote:sorry, whats PEPE stands for portable executable and describes the actual unit within an executable which gets loaded and executed by windows. In the case of BGT, this PE describes the utilities to further load and execute the byte code generated

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus sorry, whats PE URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409829/#p409829 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus Ethin wrote:@12, perhaps is the indentation? I can't help you if you don't tell me your problem.well, if python have some engines to help me, it can be good: I cant understand the librory URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409828/#p409828 -- Audiogames

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus sorry all: I should do quote by quoteEthin wrote:@12, perhaps is the indentation? I can't help you if you don't tell me your problem.well, if python have some engines to help me, it can be good: I cant understand the librory URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus Alright, before this turns into I don't know what.The only reason BGT games by VG Storm cannot work under windows xp is because they specifically call on the Elias dll to work, and the Elias composer studio...you guessed it, produces the very same not a valid

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @27, because that's just throwing accusations around. Just because the PE size is larger doesn't mean its a "special version". Wedon't even know if Phillip and VGStorms games are "friends" in the sense of the word. As I said a few posts back,

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus How not? I have tested this on many BGT games, all returning the same result. VGStorm games do not return the same result, and it is a common thing with VGStorm games and no others. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409800/#p409800 -- Audiogames

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @25, again... that doesn't definitively prove anything. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409799/#p409799 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus The PE size does not include the bytecode or packed data. It is the BGT stub. The BGT stub is a different size in VGStorm games than it is in any other BGT game. Get an application that calculates this (CFF Explorer perhaps) and test this yourself. The PE size

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @23, how many games did you test this on? Did you test every possible game ever written in BGT? You say that "... The PE size of any other BGT game you will ever find that is using the latest version of BGT is 887kb." This, of course, is excluding game

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @23, how many games did you test this on? Did you test every possible game ever written in BGT? You say that "... The PE size of any other BGT game you will ever find that is using the latest version of BGT is 887kb." This, of course, is excluding game

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus Then explain why a constant value is different? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409779/#p409779 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @20, that doesn't mean that Phillip gives special versions of BGT to 'his friends'. Your "evidence" doesn't prove much, really. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409777/#p409777 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus BGT works on Windows XP. I’ve used it. It was past last update if I’m not mistaken.  At least the actual application does in the projects that I’ve made and ran with it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409771/#p409771 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @ethinThe PE size of VGStorm games is 1.04mb for Psycho Strike and 999kb for Manamon. The PE size of any other BGT game you will ever find that is using the latest version of BGT is 887kb. The updated version of BGT has Elias support and likely an updated version

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @18, stop! Just stop! Your making yourself look like an idiot. Phillip hasn't and most likely never will "give out special versions of games or BGT to his friends". I've known him long enough to say that with 100 percent confidence. If I'm not mistaken,

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @18, stop! Just stop! Your making yourself look like an idiot. Phillip hasn't and most likely never will "give out special versions of games or BGT to his friends". I've known him long enough to say that with 100 percent confidence. If I'm not mistaken,

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @18, stop! Just stop! Your making yourself look like an idiot. Phillip hasn't and most likely never will "give out special versions of games to his friends". I've known him long enough to say that with 100 percent confidence. If I'm not mistaken,

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus then try runing psycho strike under windows xp, because it is not giving a report in game what it would need to do if the game runs but retreves info. But windows xp directly reports that it can not run that aplication, what would not happen if the game would

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus the vgstorm games do have the exact same system requirements as all other bgt games have, no other version used there. You can limit your game to Win 7 and above using BGT too, just by calling the necessary system dlls to retrieve the current windows version

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus Also what makes me really mad is that it seams like philip gives extra versions of bgt out to his friends, because vg storm games are writen in bgt but require windows7 what is not possible with the current bgt version, and also they almost never get flagged. So

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus Stop, using, BGT URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409741/#p409741 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus i don't think bgt power is limited so hart, but when i think about it, if you can already work with bgt it may work if you just try angel script since this is core of bgt. i don't know how development state is there i never checked that one out, but it could

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @12, perhaps is the indentation? I can't help you if you don't tell me your problem. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409738/#p409738 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus python is very hard for me, I dont know why? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409737/#p409737 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus @10, and so you will remain locked into using it and never make games that are cross-platform or make amazing things because you will be bound by BGT. Let it go and learn something that's in the real world, man, you won't regret it. URL: https

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus as I sed, I love it cause its eazy URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409725/#p409725 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus BGT is discontinued. It will not receive any new updates. Ever. The fact that it hasn't been updated since 2011 is proof enough. No developer would leave a project for over 8 years and then just suddenly update it like that, especially one like BGT. So

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus bgt is eazya, and this is reazan of new devs URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409715/#p409715 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus Well, as it's not paid anymore, who would mind updating us with the status of it? And there's nothing special in it which needs updating, people are moving to python only new devs are staying on bgt and its limited power. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus admins, if it belongs to dev room, please move it on therewell, at pranam, you rights: I know this but I wants t o know why we didn't reseaved any updates about it? and yes, philip is bizy URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409680/#p409680 -- Audiogames

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus Well, BGT is not discontinued, just we don't receive frequent updates for it that doesn't mean that it's discontinued. He'll surely work on it, in the future if he wants to. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409674/#p409674 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus BGT is also not just developed by Phillip. It's a combination, from what I know, and Phillip maintains not only his various products, but an actual job as well. Needless to say, he's a busy man! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409657/#p409657

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus It's not his focus anymore. He's still around but he is mostly working on his Elias music engine I think. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409641/#p409641 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: why bgt dont continus

Re: why bgt dont continus i think this belongs on DEV room URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409621/#p409621 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

why bgt dont continus

why bgt dont continus hiI started this topic to know, why filip bennifall dont updates bgt URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409609/#p409609 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

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