Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Afaik theres no way to use those voices on anything other than a Mac.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165632#p165632 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi everyone.Here is an update my Macintosh Attack.Ive deleted some duplicate cut scenes in the first stage as well as removing the steel data which was originally there.Ive added a few arrows to part 1.In part 2, I added bells as one of the enemies.Alex now has a better death sequence in my opinion and is also now a boss so the stage should end when hes killed.The link is https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/134 … attack.zipI hope this works.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165666#p165666 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! it worked for me but I had to update the version of the stage after Ive downloaded the new one.I heard that Alex is bringing a new army since I killed him.I cant wait for Alex returns.it would be exciting if their were more cutscenes in Alex returns.it would be great if the Albert Voice was added, as well as more Mac Voices.anyways, Im enjoying the stage and cant wait for more action to be added to this stage.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165693#p165693 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Can you use those mac voices with Sapi5 on windows? Those mac voices are awesome. And you are missing the popular bell voice characters. My goodness. It would be awesome to here those while playing the game.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165623#p165623 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! As of 4.5, you cant modify anything except text squares. But you can delete things.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165357#p165357 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! the password didnt work.I tried entering macbookair2398 and the password wasnt accepted.I think more and more enemies for Macintosh attack 2 like vocalizer would work.When you rebuild Macintosh attack part 2, it will be alex returns.and therefore, alex will be the final boss.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165428#p165428 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi.Ok, I am downloading the latest version of AAC and will check out what it has to offer.As for the password, it is actually macbook2398I do plan to make Alex behave like a normal boss and I think Im going to remove that steel data on part 1. I put it there when I was first creating the stage and had issues with the end point.I may also add arrows to part 1, not sure.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165433#p165433 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Still no custom character sounds, but you can now eddit everything in a stage!Now cris can redo part two without remaking everything!Hurray for a real boss, maybe?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165292#p165292 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! How much attack/defense do you need to kill the voices? I currently have 8 attack, 2 defense.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165021#p165021 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi.I think I set nearly all of them to about 20 attack and defense.They dont hurt me lol but then again my stats are getting stronger so yeah.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165034#p165034 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hay cris, Aaron just made an update that lets you make bosses!I havent played around with it yet, but you might have to rebuild your stage to make it work.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165049#p165049 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! hay guys. This vercion is cool?http://aac.caturria.ca/aac.zipthat leankURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=165110#p165110 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! I would like Macintosh attack 2 for adventure at c:.the stage you made was two short, so I need an extended version of Macintosh attack.put in the following Voices for it.scansoft RealSpeak daniel, more Macintosh Voices like bells and the albert one as well.I dont know how to edit the stage because I dont have the password for it.do you have the password?I would like to edit the stage in the stage builder.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164952#p164952 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi.Not sure how you can really edit the stage considering you cant modify stuff, only add. Anyway, I think the password is macbookair2398URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164996#p164996 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! guys! what i sayd. This! is! coo oo oo oo oo ool! well gonna try it now with the new aac thing.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164590#p164590 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! the sequel its macintosh attack 2?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164610#p164610 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! yes, it is Macintosh attack 2.that will be a name for the sequel.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164625#p164625 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi, The delete arrais are too fast, I die on the second one. Any tips?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164631#p164631 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! I like the ending scene after Ive completed the stage, it is a nice scene.but When Macintosh attack 2 comes out, hopefully I will expect to see more scenes to Macintosh attack 2.in the meantime, I will continue to play Macintosh attack stage.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164635#p164635 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! To get past the delete rays, you sort of need to be musically inclined when theyre that fast. You need to get right next to one, so its not hitting you, but as close as it can be. Then, get a feel for the rhythm, how often it hits. Once you have a feel for how they hit, jump, then time it so you pass under it when its not hitting. Its easier to actually do than it is to explain.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164636#p164636 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi.Hmm, maybe I made a couple of the delete rays move too quickly.My best advice is to observe the pattern and jump or run through it when its not shooting.As for Macintosh Attack part 2, Im not sure what I could put in it.Maybe the rest of the vocalizer voices.I could say that the previous attack got rid of most of the original macintalk voices that you were fighting?Hmm not sure, just thinking.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164654#p164654 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! maybe you could put in commercials like, lets say you finish the first half of the battle of the enemies for the macintosh Voices.and microsoft sam would say we will be back after this, and the game would pause.perhaps you could put in more items that have to do with earning for bits and such.and then the stage would have more and more levels until you get to the final boss of having to fight alex again.how does that sound?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164655#p164655 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! I to, thought this stage was really good, and that all of the enimies singing at me was pretty funny.Maybe Aaron can hopefully get AAC to allow us to make bosses pretty soon.That way you could actually make the stage have a climax where alexs death ends the stage, or something.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164516#p164516 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! I think there should be a scene such as if alex gets offended especially if Ive killed a lot of his enemies, sam and mike would have a macintosh revenge! lol!but anyway, Im enjoying this stage and hope to see more scenes in the next part of the story.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164523#p164523 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! hay all.well im glad a new stage has apeared. Will try it soon.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164526#p164526 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! can someone proportion a link for the game 2.4.2 or something? it says me the same. How i can upgrade?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164527#p164527 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi.Thanks for the great feedback! I love this stage and I made it, hahaha!It would be cool if Aron could update the stage creator to allow bosses and also custom character sounds for getting hurt and dying, would make my stage a lot more realistic.Do you guys think I should make a sequel to this?Something like Alex returns or something?I dont know what I would do in it though.But yeah I think the stage creator could use some more improvements.Would love to actually be able to edit the content in my stages and maybe make Alex the final boss or something.As for the download link, try this.http://aac.caturria.ca/aac.zipURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164530#p164530 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi.Thanks for the great feedback! I love this stage and I made it, hahaha!It would be cool if Aron could update the stage creator to allow bosses and also custom character sounds for getting hurt and dying, would make my stage a lot more realistic.Do you guys think I should make a sequel to this?Something like Alex returns or something?I dont know what I would do in it though.But yeah I think the stage creator could use some more improvements.Would love to actually be able to edit the content in my stages and maybe make Alex the final boss or something.As for the download link, try this.http://aac.caturria.ca/aac.zipeditI used Alex, Ava, Tom, Bad News, good news, pipe organ, cellos, trinoids, Kathy, Princess, Bruce, Ralph and Fred in the stages.I may be forgetting some but yeah that should name the majority of them.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164530#p164530 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! yeah, I think a sequel would be nice.I also prefer RealSpeak daniel to be in the sequel as well.if Alex does return, hed have a new plan, and who knows What would happen.if there were more to the sequel, alex would have something else, such as ok, Ive had enough of you destroying my gards!and then he would come after me.also, RealSpeak daniel is the british Voice I think you would use for the sequel your about to come up with.the sequel will be called Macintosh attack the revenge of Alex.I hope thats a good name for me.What do you think?it would be awsome.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164538#p164538 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! This stage was very good.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164333#p164333 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! I cannot access part 2 of macintosh attack for some reason.When I try, it says this stage is part of a sequence.it cant be accessed unless from a different stage.I dont know What that means.should I replay part 1?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164234#p164234 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! yesURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164255#p164255 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi.Yes, the second part is meant to be reached by completing the first part.I did that on purpose.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164286#p164286 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! hi.where to put the stg files?i puted them in the stages folder, played adventure at c: but i didnt saw this stage in the game.kamochek.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164060#p164060 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! yes i love the alex voice from MAC OS o yes this stage is fun!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164065#p164065 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi.Put the sty files in the stages folder and then press shift s when in the game and choose play stage.Glad to see someone likes the stage!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164083#p164083 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi.Put the stg files in the stages folder and then press shift s when in the game and choose play stage.Glad to see someone likes the stage!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164083#p164083 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Re: Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! I think the January 2013 is a typo. You need to upgrade to the very latest version. Remember, the game didnt come out until I think sometime in April of 2013, so theres no possible way there can be a version from January 2013, at least not a public one anyway. Its just a typo.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=164093#p164093 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
[Audiogames-reflector] Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack!
Introducing my new stage for Adventure at c:, Macintosh Attack! Hi everyone.After about a week, I am proud to present my two part stage for Adventure at c: called Macintosh Attack.The basic storyline is that macintosh voices are trying to invade your computer and replace Windows with Mac OS X.Most of the sounds I made. The ambience and the sound at the end of part 1 are from free sound.org.Part of the final scene in part 2 is also from free sound.org.The music is from the BGT orchestral sound pack.I hope you enjoy my stage.Any comments are welcome.Here is the link.https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/134 … attack.zipURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=163821#p163821 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
