Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
2020-02-14
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic @haily_merry, leave them alone and they will come home, wagging their tails behind them.I can say that. Why? Because I spent the better part of 10 years! Yes! Ten, strenuous, psychotic, nerveracking, heart racing, mind boggling, palm sweating, frustrating years without being able to get my hands on any kind of AV or AM software or any protection for my family's PC's, my friend's PC's, the laptop my school set me up with in o3, etc. I was the protection. I was the do or don't, the guy who fixed things when my brother and sister-in-law wanted new screensavers and crapware that really was absolutely unnecessary. I was the guy who scoured the net hoping and praying I could find something accessible to use and not coming up with a thing back then. Backdoor and batchfile viruses were my childhood enemies!!And what kind of computer knowledge do I possess? Probably less than those of you who are suggesting that common sense won't get you a dime worth of sleep. Well, I'm here to tell you that you can't hold a candel to me. The fearmongering you toss around is the kind of stuff you learn out of bad habbit when using AV and AM software for so long and expeecting it to hold your hand. Even when my school finally relented and purchased Semantec for my PC in o5 I was still left out in the dark as I couldn't use the software. When AOL 9.0 tried to get me to install McAfee on them just for using their platform I was equally disgusted.Imagine my surprise when I first saw windows defender pop up as an option for computers in, what was it, o9? 2010? No more trying to see if I could bum nod32 off of someone and seeing if that thing was going to be accessible. Why? Because MS was taking a step in making malware prevention software simplistic to use and enabling it to protect you from most things. To this day, it is doing its job quite nicely. When it cannot, malwarebytes takes up the slack, and even webbrowser companies are taking on the war against internet infection.Everything else you could possibly need is built in if you are already using win10, from the once previously misunderstood and ever so seemingly annoying UAC to the updated windows firewall. You're virtually protected unless you're an absolute nitwit, and those exist. We can't stress this enough; we're not saying go around and not use anything. We're saying that you go around and educate yourself on what you're using and why. Don't throw away money for something that can be done for free and can be done accessibly. I've already stared that side of ugly and am telling you that you can save a lot of trouble and heartache by following my, and other's advice. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501235/#p501235 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic @haily_merry, leave them alone and they will come home, wagging their tails behind them.I can say that. Why? Because I spent the better part of 10 years! Yes! Ten, strenuous, psychotic, nerveracking, heart racing, mind boggling, palm sweating, frustrating years without being able to get my hands on any kind of AV or AM software or any protection for my family's PC's, my friend's PC's, the laptop my school set me up with in o3, etc. I was the protection. I was the do or don't, the guy who fixed things when my brother and sister-in-law wanted new screensavers and crapware that really was absolutely unnecessary. I was the guy who scoured the net hoping and praying I could find something accessible to use and not coming up with a thing back then. Backdoor and batchfile viruses were my childhood enemies!!And what kind of computer knowledge do I possess? Probably less than those of you who are suggesting that common sense won't get you a dime worth of sleep. Well, I'm here to tell you that you can't hold a candel to me. The fearmongering you toss around is the kind of stuff you learn out of bad habbit when using AV and AM software for so long and expeecting it to hold your hand. Even when my school finally relented and purchased Semantec for my PC in o5 I was still left out in the dark as I couldn't use the software. When AOL 9.0 tried to get me to install McAfee on them just for using their platform I was equally disgusted.Imagine my surprise when I first saw windows defender pop up as an option for computers in, what was it, o9? 2010? No more trying to see if I could bum nod32 off of someone and seeing if that thing was going to be accessible. Why? Because MS was taking a step in making malware prevention software simplistic to use and enabling it to protect you from most things. To this day, it is doing its job quite nicely. When it cannot, malwarebytes takes up the slack, and even webbrowser companies are taking on the war against internet infection.Everything else you could possibly need is built in if you are already using win10, from the once previously misunderstood and ever so seemingly annoying UAC to the updated windows firewall. You're virtually protected unless you're an absolute nitwit, and those exist. We can't stress this enough; we're not saying go around and not use anything. We're saying that you go around and educate yourself on what you're using and why. Don't throw away money for something that can be done for free and can be done accessibly. I've already started that side of ugly and am telling you that you can save a lot of trouble and heartache by following my, and other's advice. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501235/#p501235 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic If you don't wanna pay for your device to be secure, then install linux. If you don't wanna install linux, because you use windows programs, and don't trust MS, like I do (I actually have ubuntu installed on another partition), then just take control of your shit, disable defender, and run whatever goddamn security program you want. Microsoft has a track record about not being the greatest with security compared to 3rd party AV/AM developers. And why not pay for them? Malwarebytes never ripped me off, they make a good product and need funds to keep it ticking and up to date. This is the real world, you shouldn't expect people to give a shit about you just because they "should." URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501228/#p501228 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic I used to run no anti-anything on my machines. I would always have a copy of malwarebytes installed to scan every now and then (the trial would always eventually expire and this was before I had a debit card), and I was relatively ok. Sure there were times where i'd get something and i would eventually get rid of it or, on a few occasions, reinstall the OS. Whatever.. Rite? What made me change on this a little bit was when I tried to use cracked malwarebytes because I honestly didn't have a lot of money, still don't really but I was being a little too pinchy with it, and I had just built my new PC. Everything is groovy, rite? Until I go online trying to download mods for GTA IV. Now I guess somewhere along the line, I got a popup (I'm pretty sure I had ublock installed) and I didn't notice anything happened, just closed it. A day or two later I'm just using the computer and boom! BSOD. I thought my sound drivers had taken a shit on me since I was fucking with them at the time because I wanted my mobo sound to act normally. NOPE!!! While trying to reinstall windows 10, I got several errors, something about unpacking zip files I don't really remember. so I decide to make another windows 10 installation flash drive. I do that, it installs fine. I install malwarebytes. And while scanning I discover I caught a trojan that spread to every fucking executable on my drive, every game exe, every single one. Worse was that my storage drive was attached to my computer for the past 3 days so it spread to that as well... It also infected my first windows 10 installation drive.. So around 8 hours of scanning later and a few games I had stored loss, plus some drivers, old programs, etc, I was ok again. Next time I got paid I paid for the single device subscription for malwarebytes, something like $35 a year. Which is chump change for me, that's nothing. Never again. Malwarebytes is great and even though I've had some issues with it like I stated above, if I need to add exclusions, for files, it just works. I don't care for Windows Defender though. because I use windows 10 LTSC. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501225/#p501225 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : haily_merry via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Ethin, again your logic is flawed. MS could do whatever they want with your computer because windows. Enough said. Defender has nothing to do with that. Also, now you're comparing buying a windows license to buying an anti virus? Yeah, of course you should have to pay for an operating system, that's common fucking sense. Defender is only one small part of a much larger package. Also, once you've bought windows, it's yours, or at least the version you bought is, no subscriptions necessary, unless they offer those now in which case I stand corrected, but the rest still applies.Edit.Something I forgot to mention, technically you don't even need to pay to use windows 10. Sure you're limited, and there are lots of watermarks and things nagging you to purchase an activation key, but besides that windows is still fully usable, and that of course includes defender which was what you were comparing against. Yet another hole in your logic. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501216/#p501216 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : haily_merry via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Ethin, again your logic is flawed. MS could do whatever they want with your computer because windows. Enough said. Defender has nothing to do with that. Also, now you're comparing buying a windows license to buying an anti virus? Yeah, of course you should have to pay for an operating system, that's common fucking sense. Defender is only one small part of a much larger package. Also, once you've bought windows, it's yours, or at least the version you bought is, no subscriptions necessary, unless they offer those now in which case I stand corrected, but the rest still applies. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501216/#p501216 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic @26, you do realize that MS, too, has that same power, and that you have to pay to use defender because you have to pay for a windows license, right? If MS wanted to they could do whatever they wanted to your computer without you knowing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501212/#p501212 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Funny, the only issue I found with windows defender and dodgy virus detection is with audiogames made with VGT and it's easy to create an exceptions folder, indeed whilst we're slagging off AVG, even when I thought the program was actually doing a semi decent job, it was no respector of exceptions. I remember the very early Klango games Haunted factory and pirate memory game from 2007 AVG didn't like at all, even when I made their install folders exceptions. What's worse, is it later went on and munched the setup files too. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501204/#p501204 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Funny, the only issue I found with windows defender and dodgy virus detection is with audiogames made with VGT and it's easy to create an exceptions folder. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501204/#p501204 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Windows defender also known as everything is a virus. It even detected ESpeak as malicious recently. Yeah, but Microsoft knows what they are doing. To use defender, I would first need to spend half an hour excluding 90 percent of false positives. This random company as you put it is very well known, and especially if you visit their blog you will be able to see how they are doing the security research. Also, it's not all that expensive either, but you can use the free version as well. Sorry, they need money to live. You can't compare an anti virus company to Microsoft, it's just silly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501203/#p501203 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : haily_merry via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Ethin, slight flaw in your logic. Installing and using an anti virus doesn't actually get rid of windows defender. Sure there are ways to disable it, but those aren't ways your average Jo would be able to figure out easily. Speaking personally, I trust MS more than I trust some random corporation that while trusted by the majority, still has the power to effectively do whatever they fancy, and also limits the protection I'm given unless I pay them large amounts of money. No thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501192/#p501192 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : haily_merry via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Ethin, You have a point, but again I'd like to reiterate that I don't believe in having no anti virus at all. Something like windows defender will more than likely be able to get rid of anything that wouldn't show obvious signs of being malicious, whilst leaving the rest up to common sense and constant vigilance, sorry, couldn't resist throwing a Harry Potter reference in there. What I'm very much against is the fact that these shady external companies still exist and their less than honest business practices are allowed to continue. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501189/#p501189 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic @22, Defender is also well known for taking up ridiculous amounts of CPU usage when its not doing anything. There's a certain stigma attached to it that will most likely never go away. I still prefer Malwarebytes, myself. At least MB oly consums resources when its busy and does its best not to interfere with what your doing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501188/#p501188 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic @22, Defender is also well known for taking up ridiculous amounts of CPU usage. There's a certain stigma attached to it that will most likely never go away. I still prefer malwarebytes, myself. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501188/#p501188 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic @16, this logic is flawed. 20 makes far more sense. The idea of "use your common sense" hasn't and never will work to protect you from the evil out there. An AV/AM program can do most of the heavy lifting for you; for example, an AV/AM can be very helpful and inform you of sites that are dangerous, suspicious, scams, etc. Common sense is not a silver bullet to protect you from malicious computer programs. It only works 50 percent of the time, if even that. Take the CCleaner virus that became popular in 2017: aAvasts servers were hacked and a malicious version of CCleaner was placed on there that would contact the command and control (C2) server after running it for 600 seconds, then it would begin to do its dirty work. Would you have known that that was malicious? Would your "common sense" be helpful there? Probably not, especially since there was no visible behavioral change to the programs functionality. It still did what it always did, but behind the scenes and invisibly it did other things. It was also on aVasts website too. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501186/#p501186 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic @16, this logic is flawed. 20 makes far more sense. The idea of "use your common sense" hasn't and never will work to protect you from the evil out there. An AV/AM program can do most of the heavy lifting for you; for example, an AV/AM can be very helpful and inform you of sites that are dangerous, suspicious, scams, etc. Common sense is not a silver bullet to protect you from malicious computer programs. It only works 50 percent of the time, if even that. Take the CCleaner virus that became popular in 2017: aAvasts servers were hacked and a malicious version of CCleaner was placed on there that would contact the command and control (C2) server after running it for 600 seconds, then it would begin to do its dirty work. Would you have known that that was malicious? Would your "common sense" be helpful there? Probably not, especially since there was no visible behavioral change to the programs functionality. It still did what it always did, but behind the scenes and invisibly it did other things. It was alos on aVasts website too. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501186/#p501186 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : haily_merry via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Nocturnus, very well said and exactly what I've been trying to say for a long time. Personally I have windows defender which came preconfigured with windows 10, I don't want or need anything else. Defender is able to delete things it thinks might be viruses without monitoring your entire system 24 / 7 and slowing your system down in the process like avast does. It also has exclusions which actually work. What's more? It's completely free! You shouldn't ever, for any reason, need to pay to keep your device secure, that's BS and these companies deserve to be put out of business. Defender may not be the most secure thing in the world, but you should never assume that something is impenetrable because really, nothing is. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501185/#p501185 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic @Nocturnus, back in 2012 or so , I was a big fan of pc tuneup and Avg, but every update saw them get worse, slowing up the pc, moving more and more away from a standard windows interface, using custom utilities with silly flashy interfaces that were increasingly less accessible. I put up with the inequities in version 2012 since they'd been so successful in previous versions (remember, at that point Avg versions came out a year ahead of the actual year, EG version 2012 actually came out in late 2011, 2013 came out in late 2012 and so on).Version 2013 slowed my pc so badly it was almost unusable and I needed AVG's own tech support to fix the problem, since that was when they actually had a helpful tech support service. 2014 fixed the slow down problem, but came with an interface so clunky that functions like performing scans on specific parts of the system or even seeing popup notifications were impossible, let alone creating exceptions. When Malware bites managed to munch a virus AVG couldn't touch, that was pretty much that, since by that point AVG was no longer performing the functions of an antivirus and C Cleaner could do the job of Pc tuneup nicely. I think at this stage i haven't used aVg since 2014 or so, and as I said, wouldn't touch it with the proverbial length poll. As to antiviruses in general, I agree with Haily. As I've said before, viruses are like house fires. So long as you learn some basic safety and remember that if something looks dodgy it probably is, you will be okay %99 of the time, just the same way you can prevent most house fires by not plugging 16 plugs into one power point or leaving your oven or tumble dryer on all night. It is for that last 1 percent that an antivirus can be helpful, indeed after the AVG fiasco and my laptop utterly crashed in early 2014, I went entirely without an antivirus, and! an windows xp what's more, for a couple of years and was completely fine, though obviously now I'm glad to make use of Windows defender just in case. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501182/#p501182 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic I don't think @16 is suggesting you not have an antivirus or antimalware program. What post 16 is saying is that you shouldn't trust the program to do all your dirty work, anymore than you would trust a police officer to tell you whether or not you're drunk while driving, or if your flat tire needs a repair, or if your oil needs changed. You wouldn't have an exterminater at your house every single hour of every single day telling you that bugs need killed. You wouldn't have a plumber over realtime monitoring your toilets to see if pipes are working properly while you go do whatever else it is you need to do. You wouldn't have an AC repairman watching your unit to see if the filter needs changed until it does. YOu remember these things; AC filters need changed at least once a month. Toilets should regularly be plunged and cleaned out once a week. Bugs are best kept away from your home if your home is clean and there's nothing to attract them.And the same applys to computing. If you regularly visit high-traffic pages its best to check and see what, if anything has made it onto your PC. Watch your own back; don't expect some program to do it for you, even if there is a price tag atatched to it. Dark's post 14 is living proof of this last statement, as not only did they shaft him in the accessibility department but then wanted to keep him subscribed even though he clearly couldn't use the product anymore. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501175/#p501175 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ignatriay via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic I know how computers work, and yes, i tend to be careful on the stuff I download, run, etc, but still, I have an antivirus program installed, better safe than sorry URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501172/#p501172 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic @haily_merry, you're echoing my sentiments and saying stuff I've said for years and years. As for 17, that's just flat out common sense. If you don't understand how a computer works, you'd best get an antisomething software to watch your back, but you're best off learning what a computer is, is not, can and cannot do if you're actually getting one. I mean, I've heard people who said that if you turn off your computer it can still spy on you. Even if you unplug it and disconnect it from everything, electricity, internet, yada yada yada it's still able to transmit information.We all know this is a load of horse. If you don't know that, stop reading this topic right now and go do a bit of research. Fishing scams exist. Ransomeware exists. Rundll32 attacks exist. If your computer is acting stupidly sluggish there's probably a reason why, and you'd better stop visiting whatever the last place was you visited because they've probably been infected, or stop trading usb sticks and other drives with your friends.Instead, keep a backup coppy of the latest version of MSE for win7 users whoever you are, or make sure windows defender is up to date if you're a win10 user. Did you launch a weird page that did something more than interesting? Hear a TTS voice telling you your computer is infected? Telling you you'd better download such and such software or even worse, telling you that you'd better pay thousands of dollars you don't have to recover your files or else your computer will never work? Kill your web-browser. Control shift escape is your friend! Terminate any processes associated with chrome, FF, Edge, whatever your surfing piggyback of choice may be. Most PC's, particularly laptops nowadays have switches to disable your Wi-Fi connection immediately; kill that too! Take a breather! Run a scanner! Find whatever possible threats you can. Restart connection. Watch for five minutes and see if you detect any sluggish behavior on your PC. Inspect services and processes. Check msconfig. Make note of what you see and use google to find info on it if you are even slightly concerned. Update scanners; run them again. Rince and repeat as necessary. Do not assume any company, security or otherwise is going to do all the work for you. If you found threats of any kind assume they might have left registry keys behind. Clean them up. Restart. Cycle continues.Fact: computer maintenance is not a set and forget kind of thing. If you're serious about it you're going to do whatever it takes to make sure you stay protected. It's like a freaking car; you shouldn't wait until the very last minute to charge your battery, fill your gas tank, check your oil, etc. All technology is the same; when buying any technological piece you must assume responsibility over it. Understand it; research it. Ask others about it. Forget this mentality that a piece of software is going to protect you because even it can be compromised. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501162/#p501162 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic If it was only as simple as that. Ever heard of legitimate programs being hacked? How will yu ever know you are running something dangerous? What about system exploits? In some cases, you don't even need to run anything to get the good old ransomware encripting your files in the background while you are doing things normally without realizing it. Better stop it as soon as possible than once it already did the job. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501147/#p501147 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : haily_merry via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Honestly, and this is just my personal opinion, but in this day and age unless you're a total newb to computing you don't even need an anti virus. Just apply the same rules you do in real life, be careful who you trust and in this case, what you run. Pretty sure in real life you wouldn't need someone to constantly follow you around and stop you every time you went to get in someone's car who may or may not be dangerous, right? About time people actually took some responsibility for their own actions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501141/#p501141 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Wow, when Dark says you'd better ditch it, you'd probably better ditch it. I've heard him go on and on about avg and PC tuneup utilities for ages and always wondered what all the fuss was. I tried checking it out but didn't find it to my liking, honestly. To see he's finally made the switch out? Well, I freely admit is a bit saddening. It's not easy to have to give up something you termed accessible and then the company screws you over and then has the audacity to add insult to injury. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501137/#p501137 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic I used avg for years, then every version became inaccessibler, until 2014 which was utterly unusuable. Then! once I kicked the thing they had the gaul to spam me with emails and make me fill out online forms to avoid them billing me subscription charges. I had to get sighted help to uninstall at the finish, oh and exceptions were never handled well, even when the interface wasn't a completely unusable peace of crap. In short, I'd never touch AVG with a ten foot pole, and would recommend others avoid it too. I agree with lord Luceus here. Windows defender, perhaps supplemented with Malware bites and C cleaner is more than enough. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501093/#p501093 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
2020-02-13
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : rory-games via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic I'll tell you about inaccessible and tedious AV. ecet internet security!God that thing is the most annoying, disrespectful, intrusive, and glitchy thing in the world! Get this! Exclusions, don't even work! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501084/#p501084 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-02-13
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic The unfortunate part is even if you wanted to say screw this and get rid of the program, more often than not uninstallers are so inaccessible it's not even funny. Once I got one of these crappy antiviruses bundled with something, took forever to get rid of. At the end booted into Win PE and deleted it's files manually. There are even uninstallers that believe it or not require you to fill a captcha to uninstall the program. Granted, that's most often with PUPS but still very ridiculous. Even more ridiculous that Windows gave that much freedom to developers. Uninstalling and installing apps should be handled by the system, and that's where mobile operating systems had it done very well from the start. If you want to get rid of something, it should not involve any extra steps. Too late for that now though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501070/#p501070 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-02-13
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mongoo_4044 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic avast is afastwhat i meen is they try to be the fastest programs but they faled to create the acception URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501068/#p501068 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-02-13
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Vulcan_Raven via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Go with windows defender, and kick AVG as its more problematic. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501063/#p501063 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic I also haven't trusted avast since it was bundled with C Cleaner and installed without my permission.. I could've probably avoided it with the custom installation thing but I trusted that company because I have been using C Cleaner for years. Happen with Imgburn back in the day too, anyone remember that? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501004/#p501004 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic I've stopped using AVG for a while now. I just run Malwarebytes. So far, so good. Been a few snags with some stuff and adding acceptions. One issue I face with Malwarebytes is that when adding a website to allow list, I have to use the object nav on NVDA to tick the URL button, but theirs still 2 text boxes, and no matter which one I paste the URL in, it still says "please enter a valid IPV4 address" when I hit the done button.. Like, seriously Also, Windows defender is a pain if you use LTSC like me URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501000/#p501000 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Hi.At Aaron na it was vice versa, Avast bought AVG back in 2016 for an estimate of about 1.3 billion dollars.At Soren, please check up facts before stating things that are simply not true, AVG didn't buy Avast.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500999/#p500999 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Hi.Nope, this is not really what happened.Back in January, Avast had this little sister data selling company called Jumpshot.Apparently, gathered from reports and findings of tech geeks and the like, it was unvailed that Jumpshot sold data collected by Avast to companys like Microsoft and google.Data contained things such as google search requests, watched youtube videos, visited sites and all other interesting things. Jumpshot is closed down now, but I would'nt trust Avast anytime soon.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500998/#p500998 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic avg bought them URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500997/#p500997 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic I think AVG bought them out, or vice versa. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500970/#p500970 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic hi.what happened to avast? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500964/#p500964 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic
2020-02-13
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : LordLuceus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: AVG and games are getting on my wic Just use Windows Defender. It's good, fully accessible, adding exceptions is super easy barely an inconvenience, and it's built-in. No need for separate antivirus software, especially considering that most of them might as well be malware themselves (Avast, anyone?). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500953/#p500953 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
AVG and games are getting on my wic
AVG and games are getting on my wic Hi all,Well... it's happened.I just tried to run the good ol game from Oriol known as Danger on The Wheel, and AVG popped up. Right, I thought, no big deal. Add to exceptions.It even said, exception created. I clicked close, and I get: operation can not complete because the file contains a virus. Then, I went one step further, and scanned the game file with AVG. Guess what? No threats found.I mean, how ridiculous can this get! The fact that is, specifically, told me that an exception was successfully created but then blocks the file anyway? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500946/#p500946 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
